Fox News Moves From the Margins to the Mainstream

New York Times ^ | Dec 01 2002 | Alex S. Jones

[Uncle Hal]

The liberals just do not get it. The reason Fox, Rush, Sean, are so hot is obvious. The general public realises that the main stream media is biased toward the left and they want to get news from the rights prospective To me Fox gives both viewpoints while the mainstream media gives news from only the left's viewpoint. Also the main stream news feels threaten by the upstarts and realise their position is in danger.Folks the condeming of the so called "right media" is just beginning. Look for the main stream media and the democrats to call for a return of the "fairness doctrine".

[Utopia]

Abortion should only be legal in cases where the baby is killed as a necessary and unintended side-effect of saving the mother's life, as in an ectopic pregnancy, where there is no chance that the child would survive in any case. Rape and incest are not the child's fault; if the mother understandably doesn't want to keep her child in those terrible circumstances, it can be adopted.

Ergo, abortion must remain legal.

[Azzurri]

Has the Bay Area picked up Fox News yet or are they still practicing active censorship in their tolerant community?

[Theresawithanh]

Agree totally with your viewpoints. I have worked in the health care system in many capacities for many years, and too many times abortion has been used instead of birth control.

[bvw]

Hey, there was no "the Jenin Massacre". It was all fraud.

[Dianna]

Is Fox News regularly available now from all cable networks?

I don't think I'm seeing as many people bemoaning the fact that they can't get Fox.

[Betty Jane]

I caught the tail end of that FNC show that discusses the media. They were reading e-mails about smoking and the failure of the mainstream media to only report the side of the Tobacco Nazis. The position from the liberals on the show is that there is only one side of the smoking issue. Very simply, smoking is bad and there is nothing else to report. Cal Thomas, I think, pointed out the freedom issue. If you don't like smoke, don't go to a bar that allows it.

It is their condescending, arrogant, insulated opinions that are causing liberal media to lose viewers. I hope they don't realize it until their stocks are so low that a consortium of conservatives can afford to buy them out.

[PianoMan]

The Institute for Humane Studies put together a documentary that was an attempt to have a balanced discussion on smoking. It succeeds pretty well. It's well worth checking out if they've made it available.

[Endeavor]

Actually, lulu, Fox has the best business reporting anywhere. And while I agree with you re: Bill O'Reilly, you get both sides on H&C and Greta. Maybe your ear's a bit tin.

[Endeavor]

Fox is not a staple in the mid-range hotels - at least not Hiltons.

[Timesink]

Can someone enlighten me, re the NYT, please. Why does my local paper (The Orange County Register) print so many of their by-lines? Does the NYT sell them cheap?

Welcome to the wonderful world of the New York Times News Service! They usually charge based on the circulation of the subscribing paper. To their credit, they also aggregate and send out tons of stuff from lots of other papers around the country.

Of course, the Times itself owns a number of papers around the nation itself; I would presume they get access for free.

Also, I'm curious about the headlines over a NYT's article -- does the NYT retain any control over the content of the headers?

I seriously doubt it. Most wire services simply sell their data, and leave the individual subscribers to use as much or as little of it as they want.

And wire service articles get altered by the local paper every day. For example, look at an AP article in your local paper's sports section about some NFL team. It'll probably have a line or two somewhere in the middle saying something like "Joe Blow, the former star quarterback at [obscure local college]...." That wasn't in the AP article; the local sports editor shoved it in there to give it a bit more of a "local" feel.

Even better, wait until some really big story happens in your local paper's coverage area, and look for articles on that story with AP bylines. Those stories are usually massively altered by the local paper's reporters to include as much local info as possible, and sometimes just to crow. If there's a sentence in there that starts off, "This latest piece of important evidence, first discovered by the Orange County Register three days ago..." you can bet the house the AP didn't send out the story like that.

[itsahoot]

It is their condescending, arrogant, insulated opinions that are causing liberal media to lose viewers. I hope they don't realize it until their stocks are so low that a consortium of conservatives can afford to buy them out.

Anyone here remember when Ted Turner tried to buy one of the Big 3? They fought him tooth and tong because he was too conservative, and blocked his purchase. That is why he started CNN. I guess he has matured since then.

[zarf]

Where was the analysis of CNN and Kaplan's relationship with Clintoonjackass during his admin?

[nutmeg]

bttt

[Reagan is King]

But Mr. Rosenstiel says he sees a core journalistic dishonesty in the Fox news style, as compared with other programs of opinion and analysis like CNN's "Wolf Blitzer Reports," Tim Russert's "Meet the Press" on NBC and Bob Schieffer's "Face the Nation" on CBS. The power of the host in such programs is enormous, because that person leads from topic to topic, and cuts off or extends debate.

HA! What a pantload that statement was. Wolfie, Tim and Bob do more than their fair share of leading the topic to a liberal slant and cutting off effective speakers that they disagree with. Although I will say that Russert can ruin anybody's day with some of his tough questions. The libs still control probably 8 or 9 of the top 10 media outlets and they still whine.

[Dengar01]

And Fox News is going to lose it high ratings if the do not stop having 'alerts' for every stupid thing that happens in Hollywood. It has gotten bad enough that I don't watch Fox as much as I use to.

Oh I know... "We have a Fox News Alert, another unknown actress did something stupid, we'll keep you updated".

There is an Alert every five minutes and 9 out of 10 times it is completely irrelevant.

[KC_Conspirator]

"CNN's commentary tends to be less biased and less interesting," he said.

This article explains everything wrong with the media. You can regularly turn on CNN and find former Klinton oficials working. The only reason FOX seems conservative is the viewer can actually hear conservative views on the shows and there are not just one or two token Republicans working at the network.

[seenenuf]

Hey thanks for the education. Since I'm a devoted disciple of the 'follow the money' school of thought - I still
wonder if it is cheaper for a small independent paper to buy from AP, NTY, Reuters, etc, than say the Wash Times,CSMoniter. I have subscribed to the WSJ for about 15 years and find that as usual, you get what you pay for.

[galt-jw]

anybody notice fox has hired the arrogant little greg jarret from msnbc. wont be watching him. or whorealdo.