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CIA: Saudis still sending tens of millions to Al Qaida
The World Tribune.com ^ | Wednesday, November 27, 2002 | SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM

Posted on 11/27/2002 11:00:29 AM PST by FreedomCalls

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To: Poohbah
Oh darn .. so soon??
101 posted on 11/27/2002 2:01:40 PM PST by Mo1
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To: McGavin999
They are the unaborted but not loved children of those drugged out morons who burned our flags in the streets in the 1960's/70's.

Then, they went to public school and were brain washed and offered up as fresh meat for the Gay Predators pretending to be teachers. Of course these phoney teachers probably burnt our flags on our streets or wished that they did during the 1960's/70's.

In College, they have been brainwashed by professors who burned our flags in the streets in the 1960/70's. These professors have one dimension, "Hate America and blame everything on Americans!"

So now they mouth the same old mantras and just substitute President Bush instead of LBJ or Nixon and Iraq/Iran for Nam.

They and their drugged out parents, teachers and professors got by with this bravo sierra because there was no internet and conservative views counter balance their insanity posing as logic.

All of this anti America behavior became dangerous after 9/11 to most Americans. These anti Americans are so arrogant, they still think that hate America is cool and the good thing to have mantras about! Wrong!
102 posted on 11/27/2002 2:21:36 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: onedoug
Once Iraqi oil is available, Saudi crude could become a decidedly lower priority issue.

Yep. The Saudis have managed to worm themselves between a rock and a hard place. Iraq pumping 100% will only hurt them.

I posted an article earlier today (nobody read it- it was an oil thread)

Oil Production: West Africa May Overtake Saudi Arabia.

The gist of it was- the Saudis currently pump 8 million barrels per day. Western Africa pumps 3.7 million. But West African production is expected to increase to 10 million barrels per day in the next five years- supplanting Saudi Arabia (according to the article at any rate). In five years Russia will be tightening the screws ever tighter on the Saudis as well (they're already starting to). The future doesn't look good for the House of Saud at all and a liberated Iraq will be a major nail in their coffin. They'll get what's coming to 'em sooner or later.

103 posted on 11/27/2002 3:11:28 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: CivilLibertarian

"The Texan oil cabal, which the Bushs are a part of, will never betray their friends. They will sell out America because they don't give a shit about America. All they care about is international, borderless power and keeping the money they make in off-shore tax shelters. Meanwhile me and you are supporting their private military who will go to War for their interests."

Of course, it is all about oil and our long-term best interest, but the long-term best interest of our country and the world's too, not for any of your above sited ridiculous reasons! As a nation, unfortunately, reality is we must import over 60% of our oil, the majority of it, from the most volatile region in the world!

The Bush administration’s public posture moralizes the great majority of Muslims in the world as peace loving and non-violent, but to believe that Bush lives in a vacuum, as many people do, is just plain stupid! The Bush administration is all too aware of the threat the world is facing from Islam. Witness his War On Terror! The alternative public postures that many mandate would be utterly stupid and wantonly destructive.

There is a strategy, a long-term strategy to all this madness! That strategy is Bush’s so-called War On Terror. Take a closer look at the region. We have no democracies, only totalitarian regimes that deny their citizens even the most basic of fundamental human rights, most of them founded on strict Islamic principles. None of these Muslim totalitarian regimes allow freedom of religion, most export their terror and hate, and all subjugate their women. Most, like Saudi Arabia, impose the strictest interpretations of the Sharia (Muslim religious law), inflicting this violent form of law on their people. Islam is the curse of the region.

Bush’s War On Terror has an ultimate goal of creating stability in the region, and it is only through the creation of stability that his War On Terror can succeed. His strategy is a simple one: To ensure the establishment of democracy with democratic principles through out the region, by force if necessary, but better through diplomacy for humane expediency. Nothing less than complete democratization of the region can bring about the complete and utter destruction of Islam and the viral terrorist it breeds. Nothing less than radical hardcore democracy, attacking Islam and all the evil it spawns at its very core, will bring about its ultimate destruction in the end, and restore the much needed stability back to the region.

104 posted on 11/27/2002 6:48:15 PM PST by Turbodog
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To: FreedomCalls
The CIA has tracked the flow of the funds of the 12 businessmen and have urged U.S. allies in Africa, Asia and Europe to freeze the assets of the Saudis. So far, no action is said to have been taken.

If this is true, why are these men not featured on wanted posters?

105 posted on 11/27/2002 6:55:06 PM PST by per loin
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To: McGavin999
Because the administration has a plan and a timetable. Topple Iraq first, Iran will immediately follow because of the student uprising (we don't have to do a thing), once Iran is secure the others will quickly follow. VOILA! Terrorism financing gone in the blink of the eye. If you can't figure out what a democracy in both Iran and Iraq will mean, then you are quite beyond understand much of anything.

That deserves to be said at least two times if not more. Thanks.

106 posted on 11/27/2002 7:08:48 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: per loin
If this is true, why are these men not featured on wanted posters

For nearly 35 years the Saudi's have had us over a barrel... an oil barrel. We needed their oil. We have to have oil and they had the supply. OPEC had us over a barrel.

Now Russia is a friend and is producing more oil than Saudi. If we take over Iraq they have more oil than Saudi too. But it has not been drilled. Once we have the Iraqi oil we do not need the house of Saud and their oil. With out oil our nation is a paper tiger. We have to have oil or our economy colapses.

We are finally at long last getting to the point where the Saudis don't have a gun to our head. We have to take Iraq. Then Iran will fall. All the terrorists will likely flee to Saudi. We can take them down and be pretty safe. There will be a huge glut of oil. That is very good for our economy. We have already said that Iraq will have to pay us the cost of taking Saddam down in oil, so things are looking up.

The whole strategy from day one has been divide and conquer. It would be foolish to unite all Muslims against us so we would have to fight them all at once. Having to do an amphibious landing into Iraq would cost 50 or 100 thousand american lives. Having to go after Afghanistan with out Pakistan would have cost lots of American lives too.So we have chosen to take them down one at a time. Some of the Arab nations have decided to get on our side. Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Kuwait. They are sucking up to us. And none of them have the power or the money to hurt us. Iraq, Iran and Saudi do. We will take them down... One at at time with the least loss of American lives we can manage.

107 posted on 11/27/2002 7:24:15 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: ThinkDifferent

"Saudi Arabia:"good partner"::Islam:"religion of peace"

Oxymorons - the adjectives seem to contradict the substantives.

108 posted on 11/27/2002 7:50:38 PM PST by Turbodog
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To: per loin
Saudi Govt. Agent Assisted 9-11 Hijackers

For me, the big story about this Princess business isn't her money ending up third hand with 9-11 terrorist, it's the 9-11 terrorists' San Diego advance man, Omar al-Bayoumi.

According to The Washington Times and Newsweek, and some more stuff on an earlier thread, this guy was almost certainly a Saudi government agent. When British authorities searched his apartment, they found phone records of calls to the Saudi Washington Embassy (under the floorboards? - Newsweek implies). Before moving to England, Al-Bayoumi had met two of the 9-11 terrorists at LAX airport, found them housing, paid their initial rent and helped them get IDs and flying lessons.

Reasonable Conclusion: Through Al-Bayoumi, the 9-11 attacks were coordinated or facilitated, at least in part, directly out of the Saudi Embassy in Washington DC.

109 posted on 11/27/2002 8:11:37 PM PST by dagnabbit
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To: Poohbah
Diplomacy my derriere. I think you mean "cunning".
110 posted on 11/27/2002 8:24:36 PM PST by goody2shooz
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To: blam
No need to nuke 'em. Assasinate the funders.
112 posted on 11/28/2002 5:07:41 AM PST by eno_
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