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Abuser gets 22 months in prison for gun possession-
1st in district to be sentenced under US law
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Posted on 11/27/2002 5:07:39 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Also, Kruse attempted to purchase a handgun and a rifle at a gun show in August 2000 but was turned down. But the Brady bunch keeps telling us that anyone, including terrorists from around the world, can buy guns at gunshows!
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posted on
11/27/2002 5:11:49 AM PST
by
zx2dragon
To: chance33_98
Here's the thing about a domestic "violence" charge. There doesn't have to be violence involved. Ask a cop. This is catch-all category that relieves the municapality of liability in the event something does happen. Argue with your gf, loose your right.
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posted on
11/27/2002 5:26:38 AM PST
by
banjo joe
To: chance33_98
"...the
right of the people to
keep and bear arms
SHALL NOT be
infringed", I do not see an exception clause allowing a restraining order to invalidate your right or "reasonable" regulation authorization clause in the wording of the second amendment.
The second amendment says "... SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."
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posted on
11/27/2002 5:34:32 AM PST
by
tahiti
To: *bang_list
Bang
To: chance33_98
It's been my experience that in the rural area that I live this law is almost universally ignored. I could name several men I know with domestic violence convictions (some deserved, some not) that hunt and shoot on a regular basis. The only difference is now they have to get their guns through "other channels" than the local gun store.
The deputy sheriff's in the county in which I live is my next door neighbor, he regular goes hunting with one of my other neighbor's with the domestic violence conviction. I asked him about it the other day and he basically said he wasn't going to enforce it, if the federal government wanted too that was their business but they weren't getting any cooperation from his department.
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posted on
11/27/2002 5:45:19 AM PST
by
apillar
To: chance33_98
The flaming excuse for someone expected to take an oath to support and defend, but not live up to it, is now headed back to the senate after a long absence, not long enough though.
Mr DS in the article is not going to win any awards for smart behavior, but the second amendment does not have the word felony or misdemeanor found therein. So, of the two individuals spoken of here which one would you prefer to be in charge of your Constitution?
I can't wait to hear what frank, I hate the Constitution, lautenberg has in store for America this go round.
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posted on
11/27/2002 5:54:18 AM PST
by
wita
To: apillar
...if the federal government wanted to that was their business but they weren't getting any cooperation from his department...
Good!
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posted on
11/27/2002 6:01:43 AM PST
by
GunsareOK
To: chance33_98
Unfortunately, there are many people like Mr. Kruse who feel that to get along in life, they need to hide behind the barrel of a gun," the judge said.Such as federal agents, jackbooted thugs, police officers, government officials, politicians, and other elite members of this formerly class-distinction-less society.
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posted on
11/27/2002 6:23:41 AM PST
by
coloradan
To: Poohbah; wimpycat; Catspaw
Another bunch of 'em will pop out over here.
To: newgeezer
Ofcourse, if he hadn't slammed his wife against the wall, he'd still have his guns, his freedom, and his crummy marriage. Note to self, the bible is right when it says a good wife is worth more than rubies. Mrs Biblewonk rocks!
To: tahiti
I agree. There are no exceptions. We should henceforth allow all prison inmates to carry their own weapons around the jail, for self-defense, of course.
To: chance33_98
The Nazis are only going to make it worse. They are in the process of passing a law where anyone who has been involunatrily committed to a mental institution will no longer be "allowed" to own a firearm. That makes another 3 million Americans ineligible.
Another bill is in the works to make it a federal felony to possess guns if you've been served with a restraining order concerning anyone (not just a spouse as is currently the law).
Eventually, they'll make it so that anyone who has a traffic citation can't own a gun because "if they are reckless with cars, they shouldn't have guns".
And the bootlicking contigent will be loving every minute of it.
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posted on
11/27/2002 6:44:51 AM PST
by
Mulder
To: Cultural Jihad
hehehe.
This seems to be a good place for me to say that I'm glad that this loser is off the streets and prohibited from owning firearms, and if it took this law to do it, so be it.
To: biblewonk; All
You're right. No matter how unreasonable or unconstitutional -- no question about that -- this particular law is, your points are right on target.
There's also no question this guy sounds like a real piece of work. You'll forgive me if I don't have a lot of compassion for his rights being infringed.
He's just the kind of lunatic poster boy the gun grabbers love.
To: Mulder
Jack booted thug lover checking in here. Yes, if someone has been involutarily committed, I can definitely see the wisdom of not allowing them to possess firearms.
Of course, to subliterate cretins like you, whats the harm when somebody snaps and kills a bunch of people?
After all, its about your interpretation of the principle of the matter.
You bozos thrive on death, blood and destruction, and you're no better than parasites.
To: newgeezer
He's just the kind of lunatic poster boy the gun grabbers love. I wonder what percentage of men have ever slammed their wives into a wall. I also wonder if a woman could achieve the same thing if her husband punched the refrigerator. It that is the case then technically I could also have to give up my guns, if my wife was a major league bitch, enemy at the gate, sleeping with the enemy type wench. Fortunately she is pretty much the woman in Proverbs 31.
To: coloradan
"Such as federal agents, jackbooted thugs, police officers, government officials, politicians, and other elite members of this formerly class-distinction-less society."
Many judges carry a large firearm under the robes and in their car!
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posted on
11/27/2002 6:56:20 AM PST
by
Howie
To: Chancellor Palpatine
You bozos thrive on death, blood and destruction, There comes a point in the life of any normal man when it is time to spit on your hands, hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats
From your profile page :) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
To: Chancellor Palpatine
Yes, if someone has been involutarily committed, I can definitely see the wisdom of not allowing them to possess firearms. Are you aware that in many states you can be involuntarily committed, for a period of time, without ANY due process? All it takes is one judge. (This even happened to a US Army General in Mississippi in the 60s, I believe).
Of course, to subliterate cretins like you, whats the harm when somebody snaps and kills a bunch of people?
I'm not aware of any statistical correlation between people being involuntarily committed and acts of violence. That likely means that there isn't any, or the anti-gun nazis would have already mentioned it. Even if there was, it is still meaningless. In a Free society, people aren't punished because they "might" commit a crime.
Gun ownership is a Right, not a privelidge to be allocated by the government or "allowed" by bureaucrats. This bill has nothing to do preventing violence and everything to do with disarming more of the American people.
If they were serious about preventing violence, why not export the millions of illegals here, who have a much higher crime rate than Americans who have been involuntarily committed?
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posted on
11/27/2002 7:02:04 AM PST
by
Mulder
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