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Walmart Photo Shop Turns in Deer Hunter
Press Republican ^ | 11/24/02 | Dennis Aprill

Posted on 11/25/2002 3:28:03 PM PST by rs79bm

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To: rs79bm
"In this case (the Terry incident), we did find our policy of insuring a customer’s confidentiality to be violated." "But," she continued, the associate meant well."

Oh ok, it all makes sense now.

81 posted on 11/25/2002 6:06:45 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: Bella_Bru
"I think duckman was referring to "hunters" insisting that putting out food and then sitting back on your huge butt and waiting for your prey to come and eat isn't much of a "sport"."

Out west the favored method is to ambush the deer while they are looking for p_s_y. That is truly sporting.

82 posted on 11/25/2002 6:06:49 PM PST by S.O.S121.500
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To: PistolPaknMama
"In this case (the Terry incident), we did find our policy of insuring a customer’s confidentiality to be violated." "But," she continued, the associate meant well."

Oh ok, it all makes sense now.



Yes, that is a strange statement from Walmart management. Huh, really strange come to think of it. Employee breaks the rules, and management says: Oh well, she meant well.
84 posted on 11/25/2002 6:27:10 PM PST by rs79bm
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To: rs79bm
I am very interested, as I grew up here and this could have been me...

Clinton County is one of the poorest counties in NYS. It used to cater to the SAC 380th bomb wing of the AF before x42 and company shut it down, devestating the area economically. All that's left of any consequence is a SUNY college that (last I heard) had an administration that was as corrupt as the Klinks.

As a kid, to survive, you HAD to raise a garden and HAD to be a hunter. Fresh roadkill was not off-limits. I have fished through 42+ inches of ice and skinned yellow perch until my hands have bled. I have waded through waist-deep snow to cut the track of a snowshoe rabbit . I hae trapped and eaten critters out of necessity. When pre-PETA-types from town used to tell me to take a picture of the pretty animals rather than kill them, I would explain to them that "You can't eat a picture!".

In my opinion, the guy in this story was only surviving as best he knew how, just as his daddy and granddaddy probably did. His mistake was documenting it and assuming everyone was like him. Unfortunately, taking the guvn'ers game in a non-sporting way can get you in trouble (if you're caught).

I am a sportman, but I've seen the other side of the coin in this area. Oh yeah, I almost forgot. This is a UN commissioned bio-zone as well! Oh! Can't upset the globalists by killing the pretty animals! It just isn't cricket!

Time to go to bed. I'm starting to rant and ramble. Apologies to the forum...

85 posted on 11/25/2002 6:42:46 PM PST by Dubh_Ghlase
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To: BraveMan
Sheesh! That isn't a bear, it's an Abrams with a fur coat!
86 posted on 11/25/2002 6:58:15 PM PST by Riley
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To: rs79bm
Do we have a duty to report apparent evidence of any crime? Or just the crimes we all agree are bad?

If a photoshop employee processed photos of a worse crime, like murder, rape or kidnapping, wouldn't their moral obligation be to report it? What if they had pictures of 400 pot plants? - A meth lab?

What the man did was in fact against the law. We can argue the merit of the law, but then we are making a value judgment that we would expect the photoshop employee to share. I don't have a philisophical complaint against bear baiting. Hunting is for population control as well as meat. I don't have a problem making it easy for hunter. Shooting the bear from a well planned location better ensures a safe, clear and humane shot than a happenstance encounter with the bear and leaves less room for error. The law against baiting and use of hounds here in Washington was passed through initiative by a populace that as probably never hunted. Wildlife management decisions would be better left to people educated on the subject, not the urban masses.

That said... the photoshop employee knew the law well enough to see evidence of crime in that area. The photoshop employee does not convict the person... only provides evidence for the courts to prove, or not. The hunter had due process if there was a misunderstanding.

87 posted on 11/25/2002 7:18:24 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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This is scary, though. Take a photo, go to jail.

It'd be scary if that's what it was... but there was much more to it...

It was : be stupid and unsportsmanlike and violate the law, then be even more stupid and take a photo of yourself in the commission of said crime; then be even more stupid and take your roll of film to a public photo developer in a store which sells hunting licenses and gear and which certainly may have someone on staff who knows the relevent wildlife code. Make it more interesting and expect those same workers to not notice probable evidence of a crime, and be selfish in expecting them to sacrifice their principles to protect your unprincipled self.

Be stupid and make them unwilling accomplices in your crime by dumping the evidence in their lap, which they are bound to look at becuase it is part of the quality control process since chemical baths aren't stable and change with use. And then be a really stupid poacher and confess when confronted by the police without talking to a lawyer.

When you stupidly dumped the evidence in front of them, you selfishly took away another person's right not to be involved in your criminal activity. You forced them to choose between aiding and abetting you in concealing a crime which but for you they never would have witnessed or been involved in any way - or instead reporting the violation of law and becoming a 'nark' in the eyes of an idiot who had decided to eliminate his own privacy by taking his photos to other people to process.

The choice was yours all along not to commit a crime in the first place, or once committed, not to be discovered; the choice was yours all along to not subject anyone else to having to choose what to do with your evidence. You chose to involve other people in your act which you knew to be illegal and which you were even proud of, proud enough to photograph, but you didn't ask them if they minded developing photos of your crime before you dumped the evidence in their lap. So they were the ones who were wronged, not just the employee but also the company, who have a reasonable expectation to not be involved in aiding and abetting a poacher, or any other criminal. No one has a right to demand that others look the other way upon seeing evidence of a crime.

Indeed, as citizens, we are in good faith obligated to protect and defend the constitution and by extension, the laws of our country and our states, until such a time as we are willing to face the consequences and challenge their constitutionality, or even defy them outright on principle. From time to time government will intrude upon our rights- as it has done with the Brady Bill, and we all shall face the decision of obeying laws, challenging laws, or if things are bad enough, even of violating what we see as unconstitutional laws in order to preserve essential liberties. It's up to us individually. From time to time our own human nature will also present us with temptations to choose between doing good and participating in, or being neutral to evil. But we do not have a right as individuals to force that decision on others, to demand others to participate in the actions we alone choose to take or to demand that others blindly conceal them or ignore them.

Would the people here complaining about the 'nark' see things the same way if the photo developer had seen a picture with evidence of illegal alien smuggling and reported it? Would a person be a 'nark' if he went over to the neighbor's house to return a borrowed chain saw and stumbled upon the neighbor hiding illegals in his shed, or evidence of illegal alien smuggling, and decided to report it? Would we call such a person 'principled' if they chose not to report illegal alliens? Was Moussaoui's flight school instructor a 'nark' when he reported that he was suspicious of Moussaoui because he wasn't interested in landings?

88 posted on 11/25/2002 8:01:09 PM PST by piasa
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To: unixfox
Nope, we have deer feeders that are programmed to feed at certain times. The deer get used to the feedings and will usually show up just about the time the feeders are programmed to go off. The hunter on the other hand sits in a deer blind waiting for the deer to show up and then...

Some lazy slobs do it that way. Although it's still not as simple as you make it out. Other, more ethical hunters, do not do it that way. One more thing...even when people put out feeders, chances are those feeders get more turkey traffic than deer, especially in areas where there are alot of acorns.

89 posted on 11/25/2002 8:09:40 PM PST by oldvike
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To: goldstategop
A group of local asians photographed their dog roast party from its furry beginning to its robust roasted ending. The 1 hr. photo guy turned them in to the cops.
90 posted on 11/25/2002 8:12:29 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Shooting them in the head at the slaugher house ain't sportin' either.. they can't run.

And you consider that hunting?

91 posted on 11/25/2002 8:14:58 PM PST by Sloth
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To: rs79bm
If you think you have evidence of a crime being committed,
should you do anything about it? If you say no, don't
complain when you're a victim and people walk right by.
92 posted on 11/25/2002 8:28:07 PM PST by gcruse
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To: rs79bm
And people wonder why I want a digital camera. Photo processing is going to be a dying industry ... thank goodness.
93 posted on 11/25/2002 8:49:43 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: El Gato
YOU send the recipe, or post it... include garlic... and there is NO telling.

I know what people will eat when they are starving.
Anything, including their own body parts.

Is the skin edible like it is with chicken?
Does it taste like chicken?

heh heh...
94 posted on 11/26/2002 1:07:15 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Riley
my side hurts from laughing at that one...

I hope the hell you're happy now.
95 posted on 11/26/2002 1:08:47 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Sloth
NO... I consider it dinner.
I could care less how dinner is taken off the hoof.

Garlic, onions lotsa salt, ice cold beer and an open grill or fire spittle.. yum.
96 posted on 11/26/2002 1:13:29 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2
referring to your rat recipe of course...

I wonder if there are any "thanksgiving day" rat recipes?
97 posted on 11/26/2002 1:14:44 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: rs79bm
I guess now we know that your pictures simply don't go into a machine, into the packaging, and back to you ... rather someone looks at every which one of them. I personally think this is invasion of privacy.

I used to work at a Wal-Mart photo lab and the employees were required to inspect each photo to make sure there was no copyright violations and no nudity (store policy). I usually didn't bother enforcing the no-nudity policy. Often times I would place the most embarassing photo right on top of the stack just to see the look on thier faces as most people liked to open up thier pictures right after paying for them. The most memorable moment was the time a father was picking up his college student daughter's pictures. I'll leave the rest to your imagination.

98 posted on 11/26/2002 1:39:18 AM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: Bella_Bru; DoughtyOne
That is exactly what I meant. Thanx for the clarification.

DUCKMAN
99 posted on 11/26/2002 5:03:25 AM PST by duckman
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To: Bella_Bru; DoughtyOne
That is exactly what I meant. Thanx for the clarification.

DUCKMAN
100 posted on 11/26/2002 5:03:26 AM PST by duckman
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