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Bush to Sign Homeland Security Bill
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| Monday, November 25, 2002
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Posted on 11/25/2002 9:12:06 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Victor
...a bright day for coordination of intelligence and routing out terrorist scum from our woodwork. The sheep's naiveté knows no bounds.
Sure, government bureaus are famous for their efficiency and effectiveness, and the bigger they are, more effective they are. Right?!
This boondogle will definitely cause a lot of American citizens unnecessary trouble, but the terrorists are safer now than they have ever been.
Hank
To: Sparta
You guys this is so wierd! A new Department! So...just how does this really jive with our Constitution??? (sarcasm) Wierd and historical day in America...
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:33:04 AM PST
by
Gal.5:1
To: NormsRevenge
"For my next trick, world peace.. "
I think you meant to say New Global Order.
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:35:20 AM PST
by
Revel
To: Gal.5:1
Bush has just said we are doing everything we can to protect our country, since 9/11. Tell that to the ranchers on the border.
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:35:27 AM PST
by
Sparta
To: Sparta
Please tell me thats not the dem candidate for LA senate on stage with bush!
To: Sparta
riiiight. lol. :/
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:40:38 AM PST
by
Gal.5:1
To: Sparta
asa hutchinson under sec'y of borders and transportation.. what happens to norm mineta ? IS TSA staying around ? oh please oh please .. I hope mineta gets his butt retired or bronzed or something..
To: Sparta
"Tell that to the ranchers on the border."
They aren't being shot at...
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:42:14 AM PST
by
marajade
To: Victor
I thought we were supposed to get a "coordinated effort" the last time the goobers in Washington screwed up. We poured billions into anti-terrorism and got a miserable failure. It's the same old song every time, "If we'ed just had adequate funding", "If we just had more "tools"". What does it take? If anyone takes a pro-constitution stance they are branded a traitor or non-patriotic. Is it treason to not want some Ninja-suited moron looking in your underwear? "If you don't have anything to hide why are you so worried?"
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:45:01 AM PST
by
dljordan
To: icwhatudo
Nah, our dem LA candidate is a dumb blond, not a brunette.
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:45:28 AM PST
by
Sparta
To: Sparta
170,000 effective & effecient gov't. workers! Insert canned laughter here------->>>>
To: marajade
Actually, the illegals don't shoot at them, the Mexican Army does. Also, the Mexican Army has taken shots at the border patrol too.
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:46:58 AM PST
by
Sparta
To: dljordan
If anyone takes a pro-constitution stance they are branded a traitor or non-patriotic.>>
Looks like this is "the (new) new deal".
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:47:37 AM PST
by
Gal.5:1
To: All
Time for a moment of silence, Bush has just signed the bill. The Republic, time of death 12:45 CDT.
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:49:58 AM PST
by
Sparta
To: Sparta
"Actually, the illegals don't shoot at them, the Mexican Army does. Also, the Mexican Army has taken shots at the border patrol too."
Fair enough... but its not related to illegal immigration.
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:52:26 AM PST
by
marajade
To: Sparta
awwww :(. ones less victory for you pot-smoking Libertarians! LOL
To: Sparta
the lovers of liberty, our founding fathers, rolling in the graves...
someone, please post the exact Franklin quote on freedom/security...
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:53:45 AM PST
by
Gal.5:1
To: Sparta
Time for a moment of silence, Bush has just signed the bill. The Republic, time of death 12:45 CDT.Oh, puh-leeze. This bill is pretty tame compared to the Patriot Act. You want to do something productive, go back and read that mess, and then write your congresscritter and Senators to demand that the more obnoxious provisions of that bill be repealed. Or write them and demand that TIA be nuked the way the Homeland Security Act, the one you claim killed the Republic, killed off TIPS. That's a strange thing to have happen in a so-called police state, Congress listening to the concerns of citizens and voting against the desires of the Administration to kill an invasive program.
Naysayers can just sit here and whine. Who is going to actually do something about these problems? We killed TIPS, and we can kill other problematic provisions.
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:53:59 AM PST
by
dirtboy
To: marajade
The ranchers have to deal with illegals treusspassing(sp) on their property. People have to leave their ranches armed so the illegals and the cartels who smuggle them across our border. Many of the illegals are Arabs and Chinese. Geraldo did a report on The Pulse about how Hezbollah, along with Mexican drug cartels, smuggle terrorists across the border.
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:56:56 AM PST
by
Sparta
To: Gal.5:1
You guys this is so wierd! A new Department! So...just how does this really jive with our Constitution??? Well, Congress took mostly existing functions, voted to consolidate them, and the president signed it into law. That part is Constitutional, although one can argue that many of these departments were unconstitutional before and unconstitutional afterwards. So the bill in and of itself changes little.
Seriously, there has been a lot of fearmongering about this bill, but almost all of it is hype. We'd be better off trying to get provisions of the Patriot Act revoked, and TIA killed off like TIPS, instead of wailing about what is basically a lot of cosmetic changes to the federal government.
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posted on
11/25/2002 10:57:09 AM PST
by
dirtboy
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