Freepers your thoughts please....

myself ^ | 24 Novermber 2002 | Trueblackman

[brat]

"Congressional Republican Leaders in the House and Senate need to remember that this midterm election has granted them the power to move the President’s Agenda forward without roadblocks from Congressional Democrats and that Republicans need to clamp down and do just that."

Amen. Nuf' said. Good piece, TBM. (I also think they should have some "special" ideas planned for Jim Jeffords when he shows his face. :0)

[dwills]

1) if bi-partisan talk is what hurt dems with their base, bush should keep talking that talk even if he continues to press his agenda behind the legislative scene and our base should be smart enough to continue to support him despite the 'tone change'

2) although the alliteration "paralyzing poison" seems akward, it does convey the irony that being slavish to actual bi-partisanship can result in more gridlock than being a tough partisan behind the scenes--bush should definitely punish dems legislatively when they don't play ball

3) isn't that tale a native-american one about a scorpion who begs a frog for a ride across the river on his back and not a human and a snake? anyway, the moral of the story is that the frog thought the scorpion wouldn't sting him because they'd both die, since the scorpion couldn't swim, but he was wrong because the scorpion couldn't help doing what was in his nature--maybe an apt metaphor to apply to democrats, but not the bi-partisan rhetoric that scores us a few needed points on the margins

[Nellie 01]

That is a very well-reasoned, succinct analysis of the past and present situation of the Democrat party. Expressed this way, it should be clear to people in the party how distorted their position has become. Thanks.

[chance33_98]

My uncle was a democratic mayor here in Ohio and my wife's dad is a big wig in some california union - they are (or were in my uncle's case, he has since passed on and his x wife died last night) old school democrats who seriously care about the average working man. My father in law worked his way up and never forgot the little guy, and he himself is digusted with his own party.

I used to respect the dems many years ago, but they are shameless charlatans now pimping themselves out for votes.

[maui_hawaii]

I think this Bush is a whole new ballgame. Bush II has Republican House and Senate for the whole last two years of his first term.

I like the old saying that goes like this," The world is dog eat dog. If you are not careful its the other way around."

We should not let the Democrats have breathing room for the next two years, but like I said, tone and strategy matters a whole lot.

[maui_hawaii]

It would be Sir. Thanks.

[maui_hawaii]

Bush is doing a good job at exposing the democrats. He is doing it really by being honest, sincere, and genuine. It doesn't amount to much more than that.

[tet68]

We have seen the democrats idea of "Bi-partizanship"
(you will notice the z in there, thats because
their idea is that while the republicans are bi-partisan,
the democrats can continue to snipe at them.

We saw what happened to GHW Bush when he said "No new Taxes" He thought he could work with them and they made him
look like a fool for it.
Note to Demorats, "THOSE DAYS ARE, O-V-E-R !

[sweetliberty]

Pretty hard to top what you said. I agree with you 100%. We need to send Tiny Tommy and his obstructionist thugs to the corner to observe how adults handle things. Excellent post!

[sweetliberty]

" I think the bipartisanship will be of the order of "Go along with the President or he will campaign in YOUR state, Senator."

LOL! I hope so.

[sweetliberty]

Here's your bipartisanship Tommy!

[Dianna]

There are two things which will help insulate W against cries of "partisanship". The first is his talk of working together. I HATE that personally. But the people seem to like the new tone.

The second is when W talks about what he wants to accomplish. So far he has focused on things people already want. His challenge is to move toward more conservative issues while explaining to the people that this IS what they want and WHY they want it.

If he can make the case that his agenda is what is best, then it won't matter that Dems call it a "partisan, conservative agenda".

[John Lenin]

Sure, the democrats want bi-partisanship, thats why they elected Pelosi ....

[Trueblackman]

Freepers I love all the imput I am getting and some of it I am using and making corrections so keep it coming

The Paralyzing Poison of Bi-Partisanship with Congressional Democrats In the wake of the most recent midterm election that put Democrats back in the minority in the Senate and lost them seat in the house, Congressional Democrats are once again calling for bi-partisanship between themselves Congressional Republicans and President Bush. Congressional Democrats will now claim that if President Bush wants to change the tone in Washington DC then he should work with them in a bi-partisan effort. President Bush and Congressional Republicans should reject any talk of bi-partisanship from the Democrats. When Democrats controlled the Senate they bottled up President Bush’s Judicial Nominees, the energy bill and 70 other bills that where passed by the Republican Controlled House. The only bi-partisanship that Democrats believe in is that it either “their way or the highway” and now that they are back in the minority, Republicans need to hand them the map and car keys. Former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle needs to be put on notice that the President and Congressional Republicans have not forgotten that for the 18 months that Democrats had the majority, he set the threshold at 60 votes for any bill, while his band of 42-45 Liberal Democrats secretly worked to derail any bill that President Bush or Congressional Republicans wanted pass. President Bush and Congressional Republicans should be on the look out for the Trojan horses that Tom Daschle will send out now in the form of Moderate Democrat Senators such as Zell Miller and John Breaux. Tom Daschle will seek to make moderate Democrats the face of the party in the Senate, while doing everything in his power to undermine the President and Congressional Republicans. President Bush needs to remember that it was some of these same Congressional Democrats that set up his father for defeat when they wanted him to work with them under the banner of bi-partisanship from 1989-1991. Congressional Democrats undermined former President Bush on everything from taxcuts to the economy, but now this President Bush unlike his father has a strong mandate from the American People to govern and set his agenda and should reject any calls of bi-partisanship from Congressional Democrats. Congressional Republican Leaders in the House and Senate need to remember that this midterm election has granted them the power to move the President’s Agenda forward without roadblocks from Congressional Democrats and that Republicans need to clamp down and do just that. Expanded numbers in the House and Senate does not mean you cave into the minority party under the threats of a filibuster and skewed polls put together by the press and focus groups, but you do the job that the voters has asked you to do with a expanded majority. The incoming 108th Congress under Republican Leadership has a duty to ensure that all Americans have the best that they can offer in permanent tax relief, strong national defense, a smaller and more flexibility federal government that is accountable to the American Taxpayer. Republicans need to also remember that they have a duty to ensure that America wins the “War on Terrorism.” The President and Congressional Republicans should reject any calls for the United State to be beholden to the United Nations in this war to destroy international terrorism and a clear message needs to be send to the United Nations that America is ready to stand alone when it come down to protection of America Lives and our interest. The President and Congressional Republicans should work with those Congressional Democrats that are indeed interested in what is best for the American People in a bi-partisan way, but should be on the look out for the “snakeoil salesmen tactics” of those Congressional Democrats who are only interested in regain a majority than doing what is right for the American People as Former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle refused to do for 18 months. The President and Congressional Republicans when hearing the word “bi-partisanship” from Liberal Congressional Democrats should remember the old folktale of the frog and the scorpion that in the end stung and killed him or better yet remember the poisonous sting that Congressional Democrats dealt the Presidency of Bush 41.

[sweetliberty]

"now to try and play fair with those who don't believe in playing fair is silly"

Well, that's only half true. They believe in US playing fair.

[John Lenin]

Blacks have to get on the RATs for school vouchers. That will put them at each others throats and will show a lot of people that the teachers are more important than the base.

[Trueblackman]

How is this.....President Bush and Congressional Republicans should reject any talk of bi-partisanship from the Congressional Democrats under the leadership of both Tom Daschle and Nancy Pelosi, who have let it be known that they completely partisan toward any Republican. When Democrats controlled the Senate they bottled up President Bush’s Judicial Nominees, the energy bill and 70 other bills that where passed by the Republican Controlled House. The only bi-partisanship that Democrats believe in is that it either “their way or the highway” and now that they are back in the minority, Republicans need to hand them the map and car keys.

[John Lenin]

I agree, their call for bi-partisanship is a scam. If they really wanted to be bi-partisan they would have elected a moderate dem. Bush is riding high now and should use his popularity to push through the judges that were rejected and tort reform and a drug benefit program. If you want more blacks to become GOP talk about vouchers, because the RATS will never go against the NEA.

[Cobra64]

I agree. President Bush is doing a wonderful job. It would be nice if the Clintons, Daschle, and Gore would leave him alone. They are clouding the issues when they should be supporting this country's well being against enemy forces.

[swheats]

They had their chance. Hell, they wouldn't even follow. All they wanted to do was get in the way. They did not lead.

We will. I took a few liberties with your excellent words.

Great article True. Just keep reminding them we support the President and those who want to get something done for the benefit of America.