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Analysis: Bush's America: Left Turn for Dems?
United Press International ^
| 11/23/2002
| Martin Sieff UPI Senior News Analyst
Posted on 11/24/2002 10:31:22 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Comment #3 Removed by Moderator
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I was a mere youth at the time, but I don't remember Johnson being loathed for the "Great Society."
No, Johnson's aimless Vietnam policy is what brought on Nixon, then McGovern's total cave to the peaceniks crushed him.
Foreign policy, in war time, always trumps the economy. Just witness November 5.
No, the Democrats "tacking left" will lead them further into the wilderness. With Pelosi and Gore and Daschle at the helm, there's no way they can get to the right of Bush on the war on terror.
This article, itself, is a sign of desperation. "Try something, Democrats. Anything."
The pendulum doesn't inevitably swing left. It hasn't for fifty years.
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posted on
11/24/2002 10:43:12 AM PST
by
sinkspur
To: sinkspur
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Headline of the 2000s: Democrats Running On Empty
To: Dutch-Comfort
Were you asleep all last week? Bush masterfully brought NATO and the Baltics into his coalition against Iraq. He is isolating radical Arab countries. Without a word from him, Saudi Arabia is squirming in revelations that money from the top echelons of Saudi society found its way to two hijackers.
No, the Bush Doctrine is real and is prevailing.
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posted on
11/24/2002 10:48:04 AM PST
by
sinkspur
To: sinkspur
Dubya Consolidating ....Dems Disintegrating....like a slow motion implosion
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...two relatively conservative Southern Democrats -- Jimmy Carter ... and Bill Clinton... What!! Is this guy nuts? I guess it depends on what you mean by the word "relative".
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So instead of developing rational responses to the world as it exists, the Democrat Party should wholeheartedly adopt socialism as a guiding principle, do everything it can to ensure that we lose the war and that the economy collapses, so that they can then stand up and say "I told you so".
They'd rather have us lose, in both the war and in the economic recovery, than to accept that their collectivist philosophy is flawed.
And they wonder why people question their patriotism.
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posted on
11/24/2002 10:57:24 AM PST
by
jdege
To: jdege
They'd rather have us lose, in both the war and in the economic recovery, than to accept that their collectivist philosophy is flawed. That is the way I see their plan!
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
1) "Ever since Vietnam, more than three and a half decades ago, the Democrats have been the party of shooting themselves in the foot. The only two times they have regained the presidency in all those years has been when they flew the flag of 'Me-too-ism.' "
+2) "Yet all is far from lost for the hapless Dems and the old cliché about it being darkest before the dawn could yet -- just -- be true for them. But for that to be the case, they must turn left rather than right"
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=3) "Then, at least they can regain the honorable old losers' chalice they cherished in the days of Adlai Stevenson and even McGovern and Mondale that they might be eternal losers, but at least they were principled losers."
Gee, ain't arithmetic neat?
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The writer still thinks it is because the Democrats "message" did not get out to the public. Hello! The public has recieved and understands the Democrats message, but rejects it.
But good ahead Democrats, move further to the left, I double dog dare you.
To: jdege
"They'd rather have us lose, in both the war and in the economic recovery, than to accept that their collectivist philosophy is flawed." You got it.
America loses; the Dems win.
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posted on
11/24/2002 11:20:50 AM PST
by
okie01
To: sinkspur
I'm afraid the election has also resulted in the Rebulicans shift to the left as well. With this new amnesty for illegal immigrants, Bush has shown he feels that he is free to abandon the conservative base that elected him. Tricked again. He IS his father, it seems.
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posted on
11/24/2002 11:55:01 AM PST
by
afz400
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Respectful sidenote to W: "It's the Saudi's, stupid."
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posted on
11/24/2002 11:55:12 AM PST
by
onedoug
To: CIB-173RDABN; All
But good ahead Democrats, move further to the left, I double dog dare you.Don't get too complacent...Dubya is on the verge of making an historic mistake with respect to issues that resonate with the "Borders, Language, Culture" crowd.
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posted on
11/24/2002 11:56:04 AM PST
by
Lael
To: afz400
With this new amnesty for illegal immigrants, Bush has shown he feels that he is free to abandon the conservative base that elected him. When did Bush declare an amnesty for illegals?
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posted on
11/24/2002 11:57:38 AM PST
by
sinkspur
Comment #19 Removed by Moderator
To: afz400
With this new amnesty for illegal immigrants, Bush has shown he feels that he is free to abandon the conservative base that elected him. Which conservative base? The one that voted for Republicans on Nov. 5th, or the one-percenters?
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posted on
11/24/2002 12:01:15 PM PST
by
1rudeboy
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