Posted on 11/20/2002 2:08:55 PM PST by Rebeleye
Edited on 05/07/2004 9:20:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
For "riff-raff" in the slavers' mind read "free men".
Walt
Coal and iron come to mind right off the bat. I don't know if you want to include farm produce but the North outproduced the south in wheat, corn, and livestock by a considerable margin. And then there are manufactured goods, the end result of the raw materials. The North out produced the south 10:1 ib factory production and 14:1 in textile production, in spite of the fact that every ounce of cotton for those textiles came from somewhere else. In the end it's evident that the one raw material that the North had in abundence is money.
You're whole post is a crock, but I'll depart from this.
First of all, as I have posted to you more than once, a number of Sherman's men (as many as 10) lodged in a jail were taken out and shot. They were not "criminal looters". On another occasion, 18 union soldiers were found dead in a gully. They were not criminal looters either. On another occasion, 7 Union soldiers were found murdered. These men were soldiers in uniform in time of war. They did nothing illegal simply by being in Georgia. By the standard you would apply, all that CSA shark bait up at Camp Lookout could have been executed too.
I can't imagine what sort of experience could warp someone into making the posts that you make. You will say anything, be it untrue, unreasonable or just fantasy.
As many as 50 of Sherman's men were murdered by CSA forces --regular CSA forces. And that's all it was, murder. And you can't name a single civilian that was murdered by Sherman's men on the march to the sea. You can't show, even by your count, a dozen rapes by an army of 60,000 men.
Sherman's men were -very- well behaved and your blizzard of lies won't change that.
Walt
Tell us Walt. What raw materials were being produced in the north?
Great Britain imported a lot of wheat from the free states.
I've posted this a couple of times; maybe you just missed it.
As I say, the wheat imported from the U.S. by Great Britain came from northern states. The so-called seceded states tried to coerce the Brits into fighting for them by not releasing their cotton crop. What that clown act in Richmond forgot to consider was that northern imports of wheat were more important to the Brits than southern imported cotton.
Ooops.
Walt
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I don't have BCF handy, but I recall that Dr. McPherson mentions an 1850 conference held as I recall, in Nashville, that discussed increasing manufaturing interests in the south. After all, why should southern cotton be transported to the north when it could just as easily be sent to southern mills? This movement was called "bring the spindles to the cotton." Great idea. Only problem was no one was interested.
Would you deny a position that said the rich men in the south discouraged industry? I'd say they didn't want a middle class of managers and a free class of skilled workers. Does that seem reasonable? Bruce Catton says in one of his books that the CSA had machinery to produce 300 rifles a day, but skilled labor to only operate 1/3 of it. Is that Dr. McPherson's fault? It's the facts you don't like.
I know General Patton heard a great deal about his civil war ancestors. He actually handled the shell fragment that took his grandfather's life. He knew John Mosby personally. I wonder if the neo-rebs today don't have formative experiences of that type, although probably no one living today has talked to actual Civil War veterans. They heard all the moonlight and magnolia side of the ACW when they were growing up. They get teary eyed when they think of their ragged famished heroes hurling defiance at the hated Yankees. But when the whole picture is better illumined, it just freaks them out.
Walt
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those acts are called WAR CRIMES & CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.
the blacks they professed to love & my people, the American Indians, suffered worse fates than the whites because the DAMNYANKEES HATED BOTH GROUPS and saw us as NON-HUMAN.
the damnyankees also committed THOUSANDS of WAR CRIMES against POWs in their care.
aren't you TRULY proud of their hideous deeds, scalawag?
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Beep. Circle takes the square. The United States would have gone on even if the Confederacy had been allowed to go its merry way. This writer is being purposefully disingenuous, which is par for the course for certain hateful Yankees.
That's why, when General Pope submitted a list of 303 indians he proposed to hang, that President Lincoln told him to take no action until he could review the trial transcripts, and that's why he pardonedcummuted sentences for 264 of the indians.
Walt
Beep. Circle takes the square. The United States would have gone on even if the Confederacy had been allowed to go its merry way. This writer is being purposefully disingenuous, which is par for the course for certain hateful Yankees.
It's hard to imagine what sort of thinking could produce such nonsense.
Had the north acquiesced in allowing the secession of 11 states, those 11 states could have passed laws precluding even the entry of an American citizen to the new country. The United States would not have "gone on." It would have been gone.
President Lincoln called it; if unilateral secession were allowed, it would prove that men cannot govern themselves. It had to be shown that they -could- govern themselves, and the loyal Union men that "no partisan cause could make false to the nation's life" proved it.
Walt
lincoln was ONLY interested in $$$$$$$$$ and power.
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