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Fiery debate rages as immigrants pour in
Denver Post ^ | November 17, 2002 | David Olinger and Gwen Florio

Posted on 11/18/2002 8:46:03 AM PST by gubamyster

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1 posted on 11/18/2002 8:46:03 AM PST by gubamyster
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2 posted on 11/18/2002 8:47:58 AM PST by gubamyster
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3 posted on 11/18/2002 8:57:45 AM PST by RippleFire
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Another data point ping!
6 posted on 11/18/2002 9:16:06 AM PST by Dark Wing
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And our President is all for letting them pour in and granting them "amnesty". Whose side is he on?
7 posted on 11/18/2002 9:20:21 AM PST by Cacophonous
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Rosa, 32, came to the U.S. from Mexico nine years ago without documents.

"I'm not afraid because I'm not the only one," she said in Spanish. "Somos muchos," she added with a toss of her long hair. "We are many."

Until she had her last child three months ago, she worked as a maid in a hotel along Interstate 70 at the Dillon-Silverthorne exit.

And she's got her anchor babies, too.

8 posted on 11/18/2002 9:43:58 AM PST by skeeter
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"In fact, illegal immigrants in Colorado are costing taxpayers tens of millions of dollars, especially in schools." (Denver Pest)

They are also OVERCROWDING your schools. In fact, it's a safe bet that, if your kid has to go to school in trailer classrooms, it's because of all the aliens' kids in his school.

The ability of native-born American kids - of any race - to learn is being significantly impaired by their teachers daily having to deal with kids who arrive not toilet-trained in elementary school or having had only 2-3 years of school when they arrive at age 12-14. Both of which are common realities in schools full of illegal aliens.

Get the sticker!

9 posted on 11/18/2002 9:45:28 AM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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NOT "undocumented"!
NOT "unauthorized"!

ILLEGAL!

10 posted on 11/18/2002 10:14:03 AM PST by Redbob
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Illegal aliens have only one thing in mind-Over run the USA, and make it a clone of the place from whence they came of America. The only thing they like about our country is the better wages, and they are too d*mned stupid to realize that once they recreate the USA in the image of the sh*t holes they call home, that the thugs will rule, the middle class will cease to exist, wages will shrink to a pittance and the USA will be reduced to another sh*t hole, just like the one they call home.

Any US business that cannot survive without illegal aliens,
has no right to exist in the first place-lert such businesses move to where labor is cheap, rather than luring cheap illegal alien labor to the USA.

WE need to reduce the number of legal immigrants allowed in, and strictly enforce a zero tolorance of illegal aliens. First though, we need a ten year moratorium on any immigration at all, to allow time to deal with the deluge of immigrants we are already swamped with.
12 posted on 11/18/2002 11:40:37 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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¡Hasta la vista, criminales! Meet my leetle friend........


There's no room for 'debate'. Just enforce the laws, remove these illegals, and put the military on the border. Problem solved.

I hear that the Tombstone, AZ publisher who wants a militia in Cochise Co., AZ to stop the onslaught will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight (November 18).

13 posted on 11/18/2002 11:49:28 AM PST by Tancredo Fan
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THey are not too small an under group to account for mucho drunk driving accidents and arrests, and crimes, far beyond their relative numbers. THey are a burden upon the tax paying citizens of the USA in numerous ways. Ever try to get a critically ill American citizen past the mobs of free loading illegal Mexican aliens with tummy aches at emergency rooms?

All pretentious politically correct statements to the contrary aside-illegal aliens are a burden upon every sector of our infrastructure, and a genuine threat to the survival of the USA.


14 posted on 11/18/2002 12:08:38 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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This Denver Compost reporter states things that are illogical or outright lies. I won't even start stating what as it would take too long, but let's just say that reports seriously failed math and science in school.
15 posted on 11/18/2002 12:54:34 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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"But Estevan Flores, executive director of the Latino Research and Policy Center in Denver, responds that skin color, not fiscal concerns, really drives the immigration backlash.

"The browning of America," he said. "Some people don't like that."

How about those liberal/socialist voting habits that drives the immigration back lash?

I guess the blonding of Mexico wouldn't cause a stir south of the border. How dare this punk whip out the race card. Not only are illegals expensive and of another culture/ideology entirely, they are thieves the second they cross the border. It is a lie that "new Welfare and Medicare rules" have changed a thing.

I can drive anyone that wants to show up here to our local welfare/WIC office and let them see the illegals that don't even speak english standing in lines outside the doors to sign up. To call us racist because we don't like being stolen from is gall, and what the heck is wrong with not wanting your country over run by a bunch of Huns? They are not us, they have no business making demands here.

I have news for these illegal activists, and their political puppies, when the sovereign American citizen decides they want to extend more charity to you and your country over and above the foreign aid we send now, we will pull your freaking ear and let YOU know. You don't come over here and demand and take, not unless you want your tails kicked up between your ears and to be sent yelping back across the border.

16 posted on 11/18/2002 2:03:49 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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This article starts from a premise and then cites supporting facts, while ignoring those to the contrary.

Here in Texas, the influx of illegals has produced a huge demand for socialist services.

Food stamps (obsoleted by the Lone Star Card)
Section 8 (subsidized) housing
Subsidized transportation
Overcrowding of government schools
"Free breakfast"
"Free lunch"
Subsidized daycare
Goobermint afterschool care
Goobermint legal services
Billions in goobermint paid medical care
Retired folks who never paid a nickel getting SSI
Tutoring
Athletic programs (no kidding)
Goobermint hiring halls for illegals

And despite the article's claim that illegals don't cause an increase in crime, in my neighborhood the conversion of a vacant apartment house into Section 8 housing correlated directly with a major increase in home burglaries. The illegals take shopping carts from grocery stores as though they were a free gift that came with the groceries. Local stores have installed alarms and wheels that lock when the cart's removed from the store's vicinity, but that hasn't stopped it entirely.

Those who come here "yearning to eat free" need to be immediately deported. Those who come to work and assimilate should be welcomed. But our welfare state has stimulated an influx of parasites and lowlifes as too high a percentage of the "immigrants".

17 posted on 11/18/2002 2:24:07 PM PST by jimt
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Our only hope for immigration restrictions is to buttress the majority in the Senate, obtaining veto proof margins. Republicans will not take a firm stand as long as the margins are razor thin. We also need more conservative judges on the bench.

If such measures are to get approval, we must expand control of a Republican Senate--which is in greater jeopardy than many realize.

For those who understand why the Louisiana election is crucial to retaining the Senate in the face of possible Republican defections by Chafee and McCain, please see the article just posted on:

"How Suzanne Terrell can Defeat Mary Landrieu"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/791117/posts

If you need convincing, also see the post:
Columnist Broder Sees Potential Party Switches by Senators McCain and Chaffee

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/791096/posts
18 posted on 11/18/2002 2:32:51 PM PST by elenchus
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Colorado bump
19 posted on 11/18/2002 2:36:41 PM PST by JMJJR
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