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Saddam 'hiding the weapons in mosques'
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | November 17, 2002 | Philip Sherwell and David Wastell

Posted on 11/16/2002 5:32:45 PM PST by MadIvan

Saddam Hussein is hiding chemical and biological weapons supplies in mosques and hospitals in an effort to thwart the new United Nations inspection mission to Baghdad, Iraqi dissidents have revealed.

America says the Iraqi leader has also set up highly-trained "clean-up" squads at his most sensitive secret weapons sites to hide evidence and "sanitise" key facilities even as inspectors are on their way.

Saddam was completing his concealment strategy as French and Russian diplomats wrangled with their American and British counterparts at the UN in New York over the Security Council resolution backing the return of the weapons inspectors.

American intelligence has intensified its information-gathering campaign about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programme as Washington prepares to provide the inspectors with the data to counter Baghdad's concealment efforts.

In a significant breakthrough, the claims of Adnan al-Haideri, an Iraqi civil engineer who defected to America last year and revealed how Saddam was building underground vaults to hide chemical and biological weapons laboratories, have been backed up by US spy plane missions.

The aircraft are fitted with a device that detects underground voids - such as bunkers and tunnels - through variations in the earth's gravitational field. The device found a void where Mr al-Haideri said there was a subterranean nerve-agent laboratory.

Several scientists responsible for Iraq's WMD programme have been shifted out of the country on false passports already to prevent the inspectors questioning them, leading exiles have told The Telegraph.

In the past fortnight two scientists have been sent to Yemen, two elsewhere in the Middle East and one each to Romania, Malaysia and Singapore, according to the Iraqi National Accord (INA), an opposition group with good contacts within the regime.

Dr Ayad Alawi, the INA's leader, also disclosed that the regime was moving documents and materials from weapons laboratories and a ballistic-missile site into hospitals, schools and mosques in the northern cities of Mosul and Kirkuk.

The concealment operation is being co-ordinated by Brig Gen Walid al-Nasri, a trusted aide from Saddam's home region of Tikrit who reports directly to Qusay Hussein, the dictator's second son and head of his powerful State Security Organisation.

An official of the US Defence Intelligence Agency said: "They have trained large numbers of personnel in how to deal with an intrusive inspection regime."

These "clean-up" squads have developed methods for rapidly cleaning and sterilising equipment such as fermenters and centrifuges used to manufacture and store chemical and biological agents.

Iraq has also tried to "bury" small-scale weapons-making activity in larger-scale industrial sites.

British and American intelligence have developed a plan for the weapons inspectors that meets a timetable for attack early next year. They want them to look at about 1,000 sites. About 100 are considered certain to contain evidence of illegal activity.

In his first public comments since the UN resolution was passed, Saddam said yesterday that he had accepted the harsh terms to avert a US attack. After again insisting that Iraq was "devoid of weapons of mass destruction", he used typically vituperative language to denounce Israel, America and the "devils" that followed them.

The first test will come on December 8, the deadline set by UN Resolution 1441 for him to declare Iraq's stocks of biological and chemical agents, its nuclear-bomb programme and remaining ballistic missiles.

"If the Iraqis stick with a declaration of 'nil', then it's war," said Dr John Chipman, director of the International Institute of Strategic Studies, the London-based think-tank that produced a damning recent dossier on Iraq's weapons programme.

He said that Baghdad would most probably come up with a "middling" declaration.

America, backed by Britain, would argue at the Security Council that an incomplete December 8 declaration would put Baghdad in "material breach" of Resolution of 1441. France and Russia would in turn be expected to contend that the inspectors be given the chance to prove that Saddam was lying.

Despite the growing American military build-up, Pentagon planners would still prefer to launch a closely co-ordinated air and ground offensive after late December, when more than 200,000 US troops would be in the region.

The plan is that US intelligence will provide the UN inspectors with the "killer" data once America is ready for the military finale. The inspectors would then make unannounced spot checks while the US kept the sites under surveillance relayed live by unmanned spy drones.

Washington believes the Iraqis will be seen either trying to conceal weapons material or will be caught out. The UN Security Council will be allowed a short time to debate, but the Pentagon will already have launched the final, brief countdown to war.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: biological; chemical; saddam; toast; wmd
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Sounds like the U.N Inspectors are about to get Saddamized...

LOL!!! Good one!

61 posted on 11/16/2002 8:22:19 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: TexVet
I feel that any building that has weapons or armed fighters in it is a military installation

Yep.

63 posted on 11/16/2002 8:30:53 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: MadIvan
This is a lot of trouble to get to a single point - Saddam Hussein should be killed. I suggest we do it immediately, and damn the UN.

It will be worthwhile to let the inspectors look around for a time. Whatever they find will be that much less that Saddam can use when the war starts. Moreover, his having to hide his weapons will to some degree disrupt their tactical usefulness. Disarm and disrupt to the maximum useful extent, then attack. GWB is not so dumb as some people think.

64 posted on 11/16/2002 8:31:51 PM PST by T Ruth
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To: MadIvan
Gee what a surprise...
Makes one wonder what is in all the islamic centers and mosques build in America these past years...
And why we dont bother to check there...but we will field strip old aunt Tilly down to her last pair of drawers before she gets on an airplane by golly!
65 posted on 11/16/2002 8:33:57 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: MadIvan
>>and damn the UN.<<

Who?

66 posted on 11/16/2002 8:36:29 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Mo1
well it looks like you made history as one of the first to say what you felt on 911
67 posted on 11/16/2002 8:42:22 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW; Mo1
From the link you posted:

"Other online news sources were simply caught off guard by the staggering size and speed of events. At least five threads on the attacks had already begun at FreeRepublic.com before the Drudge Report had filed a single story or posted a link. Older media forms suffered their own problems,

Amazing.

69 posted on 11/16/2002 9:05:28 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Mulder
Saddam 'hiding the weapons in mosques Hmmmmm.... and what is the complaint here? It sounds like we can use one bomb to take out two threats (weapons and mosques). As a taxpayer, it sounds like we're getting a good deal. All that is left to hope for is the mosque to be filled with satanic (islamic) worshippers, sniffing each others asses.

Yup. We can profile these assholes when they drop down and sniff butts. Then 9mm rounds to their heads should do the trick. Gotta go Hoppes #9 my Walther.

70 posted on 11/16/2002 9:07:52 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: MadIvan
Dittos what you said, Ivan.

How are the Brits reacting these days?
72 posted on 11/16/2002 9:15:54 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: PhilDragoo
The "thousand points of light" quotation came from George Herbert Walker Bush. He is the father of current President, George W. Bush.

President Reagan made a statement, "Trust, but Verify."

Both men, actually, all three men are very smart persons who love their country. Unlike the last administration under Clinton.

73 posted on 11/16/2002 9:20:55 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Republic
The CIA dogs are all over it. Yemen, etc. Waiting to intercept.

They bite.
74 posted on 11/16/2002 9:22:12 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: MadIvan
and damn the UN.

BOMB THE UN!


75 posted on 11/16/2002 9:26:41 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Steve Eisenberg
Saddam Hussein is hiding chemical and biological weapons supplies in mosques

This is actually a smart move on Saddam's part because the chances of Hans Blix inspecting mosques are approximately zero.

Bullcrap. If I were Blix, I'd start at the Butcher's palaces and the mosques. The Butcher is crazy and insane, but he is not stupid.

I do not understand why everyone refers to our enemy by his first chummy name as, "Saddam," or "Osama."

Concurrently, in a totally twisted sense, the media refers to our American elected/appointed American people as "Bush", "Powell," "Rumsfeld," etc.

<>B< The media is pathetic. They should make a one way travel reservation to Mecca.

76 posted on 11/16/2002 9:36:40 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Brad C.
Our government forces private persons to open their doors to cops all the time--all you need is a subpoena, which a judge will issue on a showing of probable cause. I think Iraqis have no more civil rights than we do, so it would be preposterous for Saddam to say the search of mosques is outside his legal authority.
77 posted on 11/16/2002 9:38:38 PM PST by maro
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To: Paleo Conservative
BOMB THE UN!

Yes. I live in New York State and pay huge taxes to support the folks in the city. Further, the USA pays 25% of the rent in a building on our soil!?!?! Sounds a little FUBAR to me. I'd kick these third world bastards off our soil and hang in with the civilized capatisit countries like the Brits, Aussies, and a few others based upon interviews by W. Otherwise, "back-off" my continent.

78 posted on 11/16/2002 9:50:22 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: MadIvan
Then this already constitutes a "material breach" of Saddam's "final opportunity" to comply with UNSC resolutions. All we need is to document a small fraction of it.

In other words, it is no longer a question of "if" we will be going to war, but "when".

79 posted on 11/16/2002 10:17:17 PM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: MadIvan
I'd venture to guess they are hidden in schools also. He's doing that for the children.......The'y better check them also.
80 posted on 11/16/2002 10:28:20 PM PST by b4its2late
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