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Why the Left Really Hates Israel
Frontpagemag/townhall ^ | November 13, 2002 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 11/13/2002 4:24:46 AM PST by SJackson

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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit; tictoc
Thanks so much. I tried a Google search of the original, but turned up nothing relevant.

Adding this one to my growing list of cool quotes I don't know who said. ;-)

FReegards,
WW

61 posted on 11/14/2002 6:24:48 AM PST by William Wallace
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Sadly, I've heard it attributed to Jean Jaures - the French socialist.
62 posted on 11/14/2002 6:27:13 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit; tictoc
Jean Jaures, French socialist leader (and membership of the leadership council of the Second International) assassinated in 1914: "Saisir des autel de jadis le feu, pas les cendres."

Take from the altar of the past the fire, not the ashes.

63 posted on 11/14/2002 6:44:42 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Even a blind squirrel occasionaly finds a nut. Or a nut occassionaly finds a blind squirrel. Either way.
64 posted on 11/14/2002 6:55:16 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
LITTERIS RECUPERATA LIBERTATE CIVITAS

Translate this, Herr von Schönfuß!

Bonus question: Where have you seen this?
65 posted on 11/14/2002 7:26:49 AM PST by tictoc
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To: wideawake; Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Dang, you're good!

Sadly, I've heard it attributed to Jean Jaures - the French socialist.

I never heard of Jaures, but a socialist who recognized that there things worth preserving in tradition is a rare specimen. Most socialists would stamp out the fire, redistribute the warm ashes amongst themselves and let everyone else freeze.

66 posted on 11/14/2002 7:27:52 AM PST by William Wallace
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To: tictoc
Ah . . . a little Frankfurt trivia.
67 posted on 11/14/2002 7:37:32 AM PST by wideawake
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To: tictoc
Et tu tictoc?


LITTERIS RECUPERATA LIBERTATE CIVITAS is translated into: "in letters restored a city's freedom recovered"

It is to be found written on the facade in Frankfurt that looks like the entrance to a Roman tempple and is built on the site where the library of Frankfurt was destroyed in, I believe 1944.

Here is one for you- Where in Frankfurt will you find the profile of a famous German about whom a famous American Jew made a very well-known movie?
68 posted on 11/14/2002 7:57:53 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
LITTERIS RECUPERATA LIBERTATE CIVITAS is translated into: "in letters restored a city's freedom recovered"

Nice try :-)

"Dedicated to arts and letters, by the public upon having regained its freedom"

In your defense, fluency in Latin was already a vanishing skill by the time (1825) the library, of which today only the porticus remains, was built. The original inscription was "Studiis libertati reddita civitas", which prompted Schopenhauer, the ole curmudgeon, to write: "... welche in 4 Worten 3 Fehler hat und fast Küchenlatein heißen könnte; wenigstens dem Cicero unverständlich seyn würde." The inscription today was Schoppepetzer's corrected version; it only took City Hall a little more than a century to get around to chiseling it onto the pediment.

The thing behind it that looks like an oversized ship container is an art exhibition space. Worth visiting next time you pass by. Here is a very good website where you can learn more about Schopenhauer in Frankfurt.

Oskar Schindler's bust near the train station is easy to miss. Truthfully, I was not aware of it until Spielberg's movie, which I haven't seen, came out.

Who was the evil man whose departure the inscription on the Porticus celebrated, and why did Jewish Germans feel differently about him?

69 posted on 11/14/2002 10:04:33 AM PST by tictoc
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Who was the evil man whose departure the inscription on the Porticus celebrated, and why did Jewish Germans feel differently about him?

I am fairly certain you are talking about our short, one-armed French/Italien General/Emperor and would be conqueror of Russia friend - Napoleon (please don't bathe until I return) Bonaparte.

He introduced the metric system (which we really should all adopt after the NASA fiasco) and also gave the Jews full status as citizens, which they had not enjoyed under domestic rule.

Honestly, do you think others are enjoying our little game of Frankfurt trivial pursuit on a thread about Israel?

If not, here is a more global question, which is also my last - for now. Which country was the first to ban smoking in public buildings? When was it and who was the politican who provided the impetus?

70 posted on 11/15/2002 1:23:31 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Thread drift is a basic human right.

Which country was the first to ban smoking in public buildings? When was it and who was the politican who provided the impetus?

You got me there. Saudi Arabia?

71 posted on 11/15/2002 1:32:08 AM PST by tictoc
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To: tictoc; SheLion; Gabz; Great Dane
Which country was the first to ban smoking in public buildings? When was it and who was the politican who provided the impetus?

Actually I didn't venture off too much. It was our good friend Adolf. He banned smoking in 1935 in public buildings in Germany. But, don't tell the militant smokers or they will use this as one of their arguments.

72 posted on 11/15/2002 1:41:26 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit; tictoc
Honestly, do you think others are enjoying our little game

I enjoyed it immensely.

(A good agwn is more than trivial pursuit)

73 posted on 11/16/2002 8:21:29 AM PST by cornelis
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Glad you enjoyed it.

What's this about fighting (agon), or did I misunderstand?
74 posted on 11/16/2002 9:14:07 AM PST by tictoc
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There is a literary genre of a contests between two speakers, quite popular in the ancient tradition. Theocritus comes to mind. It appears earlier in Sophocles and Euripedes. Later Vergil adopts it in his Eclogues.
75 posted on 11/16/2002 9:58:05 AM PST by cornelis
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