Physical Evidence Points to Foul-Play in TWA Flight 800 Disaster

11/9/02 | John Fiorentino

[HardStarboard]

>>> Why not wait for the full story? <<<

A question you might ask of yourself...........

[JohnFiorentino]

Let me just make a brief comment. My main purpose in this endeavor, has been and continues to be my wish to see the Flight800 investigation re-opened. I posted excerpts from some of my research and an article I am working on.

No one funds my research, all expenses are mine, and borne by me out of pocket. I also, regretably have other things to do. I will publish the article as soon as it is finished. I am still doing some research.

I also don't have the budget or facilities of the NTSB which expended 40 million dollars and four years. The net result of which is it's touted "phantom spark" CWT mechanical failure scenario.

[Asmodeus]

"I'll be happy to respond Asmodeus."

What you provided us with is not a meaningful response to the question I asked you in #60? In fact, What you have provided is not even a copy of the lawsuit in the court records, as evidenced by the fact the it doesn't have either the Civil No. (case number assigned to it by the Court) or the date/time stamp of the Court Clerk. I expect you to continue to dodge my question in #60. However, please provide us all with a reference source URL for the complete lawsuit, as filed., including any Amended Complaints.

[Asmodeus]

"I posted excerpts from some of my research and an article I am working on. No one funds my research, all expenses are mine, and borne by me out of pocket. I also, regretably have other things to do. I will publish the article as soon as it is finished. I am still doing some research."

Then why in the world didn't you wait until then to start this thread in FreeRepublic thread which you so dramatically titled Physical Evidence Points to Foul-Play in TWA Flight 800 Disaster, physical evidence that you obviously haven't yet even found?

[BluH2o]

You're beating a dead horse here ... sort of like asking an NFL official to overturn a bad call. Even with instant replay ...

[Asmodeus]

Your personal attacks and sinister speculations serve no constructive purpose. Please stop making them.

[eartotheground]

Does anyone remember a few weeks after the crash they had reported finding traces of explosives in the wreckage, then a few days later they were putting out this b***s*** story about the plane had been used to train explosive-sniffing dogs a few weeks before the crash?

[eno_]

They serve a concrete and useful purpose: your posts are worthless - worse than worthless, really - spam. You cut-and paste pollution into threads where good people are trying to uncover the truth. That spanm should be excised and I applaud the moderators for doing so in this thread. You are as bad or worse as Birchers or white supremacists that occationally pop up here, except that your agenda is probably funded from a cheesy tort lawyer leaching off TWA800 victims. Go poop in some other part of the Web.

[timestax]

Does anyone remember a few weeks after the crash they had reported finding traces of explosives in the wreckage, then a few days later they were putting out this b***s*** story about the plane had been used to train explosive-sniffing dogs a few weeks before the crash?

I remember all that! And I remember the FBI were instant on, taking over, and were all over, pushing James Hall(NTSB) out off the picture (and he let them do it!) And I remember thinking it was odd, and unusual for the FBI to be taking over the way they did. Everything about TWA-800 Shootdown cover-up stinks to the high heavens!!

[eno_]

The exotic ceramic balls found in multiple victims of TWA800 are, at the very least, physical evidence that something other than parts of a 747 - something with very specific and high-performance materials requirements - was part of the violent events on TWA800.

These objects are special enough that they probably indicate a specific type of missile with a specific type of warhead. Translucent ceramic balls with extraordinary mechanical strength are not something you find in everyone's hand luggage - never mind how those pellets get embedded in human bodies).

It is perfectly reasonable to say these are like an identfiable residue from a rifle cartridge or a hair or carpet fiber at a murder scene: They could be the key to identifying who dunnit.

[goody2shooz]

Ping

[JohnFiorentino]

Don't put words in my mouth Asmodeus. I was referring to the complete article I am working on. The EVIDENCE is there NOW.

[JohnFiorentino]

To: JohnFiorentino

During your own investigation of the Flight 800 disaster, have you seen ANY evidence that ANY of the attorneys representing the victims' families have NOT done so competently, lawfully and ethically?


60 posted on 11/10/2002 5:37 PM EST by Asmodeus


First of all Asmodeus, the purpose of this thread is discussion of physical evidence re: Fl800, not attorney ethics or competency. Your question is vague and irrelevant, and in my opinion designed to cloud the issue.

I might pose of few questions in response however. WHO would those attorneys sue if it was determined Fl800 was the victim of a bombing or shootdown? The government? The (unidentified) perpetrators?

Were the attorneys you allude to privy to the information in the formerly CLASSIFIED Brookhaven National Labs (FBI) report when they filed their lawsuits? Would you expect them to reverse course from their current pursuits of lucrative awards from Boeing based on new evidence in the case?

Your attempts at obfuscation are quite transparent. I have neither the time nor obligation to respond to each and every one of your attempts to blur the issues.

[eno_]

Just to frame the level of sleaze at Kreindler, they were one of the first on the scene preparing lawsuits at Ground Zero. Ghouls. So funding Asmodeus/Elmer Barr to pollute FR is right up their alley.

[Asmodeus]

"the purpose of this thread is discussion of physical evidence re: Fl800, not attorney ethics or competency."

Not only is every Flight 800 related subject routinely brought into virtually all Flight 800 threads, the "shootdown" conspiracy theorists also routinely inject Flight 800 related postings into other threads that have nothing to do with Flight 800 such as the crashes of Flight 587, Alaska Airlines, JFK Jr., etc., etc., etc., etc., - and even into the Princess Diana accident threads. Questions about the lawful and ethical conduct of the Flight 800 familys' attorneys and the civil litigation arising out of the disaster have also been brought up by others numerous times in other Flight 800 threads and are certainly a related subjects in all Flight 800 threads.

Additionally, look at the key words you included when you posted this thread - ALUMINUM FOIL ALERT; AVIATION; CIA; FBI; GANG OF IDIOTS; NTSB; RIVERO IS ALIVE; TERRORISM; TWAFLIGHT800, your invitation for them to join in too. Your title thread was pure promotional hokum created out of thin air and neither your article nor your postings thereafter in this thread included ANY physical evidence documentation, which your title clearly implied it would, for the readers to discuss - which a number of the posters have pointed out to you.

It's your thread. Let's see how long you can now keep keep it going without providing the readers with some physical evidence documentation.

[JohnFiorentino]

I'm afraid my dear Asmodeus you give your hand away at every turn. Is your 80 plus years finally getting to you? The keywords you mention were selected by myself, with the EXCEPTION of "aluminum foil alert, gang of idiots, and Rivero is alive"....perhaps YOU added them?

I think the majority of readers here are MOST interested in this thread. This really isn't as complicated as you would like to make it.

Relevant portions of the BNLabs report were posted here on FR in another Fl800 thread. I have identified the pellets referred to in said report, classified by the FBI as of "unknown origin." I have reported that Boeing indicates they did not come from the aircraft. I also outlined my investigation through Pratt & Whitney.

So, I believe as another poster has said,"where did they come from?" --- Is the question of the hour.

There are only a very few possibilities. NONE of which lends support to NTSB's CWT "spark" theory.

You will not disuade me or delude the majority of intelligent readers on FR with your jibberish.

[Asmodeus]

You evidently can't provide the readers with a reference source URL for a of the suit papers filed so let's discuss them in a new thread if or when you can. Prediction: You never will.

[JohnFiorentino]

YOU evidently are avoiding the questions I posed in post #93.

[Asmodeus]

"I think the majority of readers here are MOST interested in this thread."

Not since your failure to provide them with what you promised.

I'm out of here.

[JohnFiorentino]

Perhaps a tissue for your sweaty brow?