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Early birds, long lines: Crowds, complex ballot slow the process(Florida)
Miami Herald ^
| 11/4/02
| SOFIA SANTANA, EVAN S. BENN AND MARTIN MERZER
Posted on 11/04/2002 12:19:16 PM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69
When I lived in Miami it didn't take that long to vote for Bush. It's a shame that most Cuban's are hard workers who shun welfare (except to supplement a cash employment or business). Most are likely converts to the Republican cause. Smells like a RAT plot to me.
To: wingnuts'nbolts
I suspect normalcy although we have all been bombarded with the loooooooonnng wait we will have to hopefully keep us home and make way for the busloads on their way. It is probably a pretty good chance that these reports of "long lines" are a bunch of crap, hoping that legitimate, concerned voters stay home. They know damn sure that the people they "bus in" aren't going to wait around for a couple of hours.
To: Seruzawa
I've been voting for over 30 years now and I can't think of a single time that I thought a ballot was "complex". They are written for morons. You have to be awful stupid (note to journalists) to not be able to push the probe into the hole that says "yes" or "no". Or to take a pencil and put the "X" in the proper box.
The problem is that these geezers don't read about the issues that they are being asked to vote on. If they would pick up a paper and "pre-cast" their choices BEFORE getting in line, they could transpose those choices into the machine in a matter of minutes. Instead they get to the poll and try to read and decide on all of the compelex amendments and referendums at the last moment. They should give each voter a 5 minute time limit and the machine kicks them out.
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:48:25 PM PST
by
LetsRok
To: finnman69
Every registered voter got a sample ballot last week. There a lot of ammendments and they're complicated. If you aren't smart enough to figure them out from the sample, you're going to waste a lot of people's time tomorrow.
I figure the bussed in rat voters will never finish. I'm pretty sure there isn't a straight ticket button, so they'll have trouble.
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:48:26 PM PST
by
js1138
To: finnman69
This sounds like a good strategy for Republicans voting in heavy Democrat areas. Just take an extra 10 minutes voting. If enough Republicans did this, the line would get so long, the Democraps would go home.
You know the Democraps would do this.
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:48:59 PM PST
by
Crispy
To: FreeTally
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One of the things that needs to be understood is that there are about 10 Constitutional Amendment questions down here.
Also, expect Jeb to run better in South Florida than his brother did two years ago. Cubans are motivated, as are other Hispanics, to vote for Bush. AA turnout was monster two years ago, and Gore still didn't win the state.
If Bush does as good among white females as he is doing, is killing McBride among white males, and wins Hispanics as I suspect he will, then Bush will win going away. The only doubt will be the margin.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:50:57 PM PST
by
section9
To: finnman69
I live a block away from my polling place. At the last primary, I was 2nd in line at my arrival at 07:00. Tomorrow, I intend to get there around 06:30 and will be interested to see what number I am in line.
I have already studied the sample ballot and there are 19 offices to be voted for and 10 amendments which I have already studied and know my vote selection by number. I will pronbably be in the voting booth no longer than a couple of minutes.
I have a problem with spread-out voting because I'm not that convinced that security can be maintained over such a long period. We are already seeing a lot of vote fraud reports and with the liberalization of registration, I worry about 'Cook County' vices prevailing.
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posted on
11/04/2002 12:56:20 PM PST
by
SES1066
To: finnman69
![](http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20021102/i/1036265970.3825262685.jpg)
LOOKS LIKE RATS TO ME
Rachel Delvalle (L) and her mother Norma Spector talk about the ballot while waiting to vote at North Miami Public Library in North Miami, Florida on November 2, 2002. Voters at the site, one of 14 early voting places in Miami-Dade County, reported waiting about one hour to cast their votes for the November 5 election.
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Voters wait inside the Hollywood Courthouse, Florida for up to two hours to vote, November 2, 2002. Early voting facilities have been open in southern Florida since October 19.
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People wait in line to vote at North Miami Public Library in North Miami, Florida on November 2, 2002. Voters at the site, one of 14 early voting places in Miami-Dade County, reported waiting about one hour to cast their votes for the November 5 election.
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(RAT Votes for McBride. look closely!!!!)A voter casts his ballot using new touch machine at the Hollywood Courthouse in Hollywood, Florida November 2, 2002. Early voting facilities have been open in South Florida since October 19.
To: finnman69
Heaven forbid these pinheads read a sample ballot ahead of time and decide how they want to vote! I hate people like that. There really ought to be some minimum level of intelligence required for voting.
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posted on
11/04/2002 1:10:39 PM PST
by
Amore
To: SES1066
I agree with all you say except there's no way I'll be in line anywhere NEAR 6:30 a.m. I hope everyone is at least voting YES on #1.
A bit from the Daytona News Journal:
Supporters of the amendment say it would block frivolous lawsuits that often delay executions by a decade or more, and cost taxpayers millions of dollars for court-appointed lawyers and judicial staffing.
Florida voters in 1998 backed a similar constitutional measure to preserve the death penalty by a 73 percent margin. But the Florida Supreme Court threw it out, saying voters weren't told the measure also affected other types of prison sentences.
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posted on
11/04/2002 1:18:00 PM PST
by
Amore
To: finnman69
Voters wait inside the Hollywood Courthouse, Florida for up to two hours to vote, November 2, 2002. Early voting facilities have been open in southern Florida since October 19. Do you think there was a two hour wait on October 19th?
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posted on
11/04/2002 1:21:08 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: finnman69
Busloads?
To: anniegetyourgun
Busloads? Busloads? Where are the poll watchers for BUSLOADS of people? Since when should voting be a bussing event, like a political tour? Grrr!
VOTE! VOTE REPUBLICAN! VOTE NOW!!! Please!
To: finnman69
I voted around 2:00 pm on Friday afternoon in Sarasota, FL. I was in line for 10 or 15 minutes. Unlike Miami-Dade and Broward counties, the geezers in Sarasota seemed to be prepared. Nearly all of them had the sample ballots mailed out by the SOE, voted, and moved out smartly. It seemed to take most people 5 or 6 minutes.
Of course, the population of Sarasota County in general terms is seriously Republican, fairly well off economically, and well educated.
To: finnman69
I suspect like the last election in that state, that the complaints will come as will the law suits from the Democrats. Their base is black and it boggles the mind that those people do not see through the lies and corruption dumped on them from day one. I heard the Democrats want MORE money for education...can you believe it? Bush gave them everything they wanted on that bill and they are still complaining. I would like to see where the money went when the Education Department was audited, the audit was never finished because the books were in such disarray...Clinton's people in that department and mostly black.
Like most states, Clinton/Gore found the money for jobs in the school districts and nothing for the students. From janitors to superintendents the money went to make more jobs...for votes - then there is the missing $340 million in Washington never accounted for.
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posted on
11/04/2002 1:49:47 PM PST
by
yoe
To: finnman69
I bet the lines were all democraps and they were given 50 votes each.
To: finnman69
Please don't blame all of Florida because 98% of it is screwed up. I live in the 2% that's all pubbie. Very nice.
To: finnman69
''I didn't think I'd have to wait an hour,'' said Mark Sanchez, 34, of West Kendall, one of 40 people in a line that snaked through the children's section of the West Kendall Regional Library. ``But I'm sure it will be worse Nov. 5.''40 people took an hour?
I just came from there and there were about 300 people in line.
I left, these people are retarded.
There are about 1000 polling places open on ELECTION DAY.
The microcephs at county hall only open 14 across the entire county and they are surprised about the long lines.
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posted on
11/04/2002 2:36:52 PM PST
by
Rome2000
To: finnman69; summer; floriduh voter; JulieRNR21; Goldwater Girl; PhiKapMom; Wait4Truth; ...
Thanks for the pings. In some countries people risk their lives for the privilege of voting. Dems. whine about a few hours wait at the polls. Honest Floridians need to take back our state. Tell the Miami Herald that we aren't going to let the mischief-makers drag down our fine state. Not another Palm Beach County Telequest, election 2000 telescam. No more Flori
DUH!
Please let me know if you want on or off my "'til election day" Fla. ping list.
To: finnman69
What is so darned difficult, either about voting or setting up a system that makes it easy - and quick - to vote.
Apparantly there are some real incompetant people in (should I say it?) - Floriduh.
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posted on
11/04/2002 2:53:01 PM PST
by
BJungNan
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