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Searchers Find Body of Missing 13-year-old
News and Record ^ | 11-2-02 | News and Record

Posted on 11/02/2002 3:56:47 PM PST by God'sgrrl

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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
I'm with you. I am so disappointed that this story, which I had seen only a few articles on, turned out this way. We don't know yet whether this little boy was murdered or not. It hardly matters; either way, it won't change the sadness of his death. The whole thing gives me a great sense of sadness, and a great fear--b/c I have children too.

Suppose this was an abduction/murder. On some forums I used to go to (affiliated with some newspapers' websites), I used to go round and round with homosexual posters about which pedophiles caused more damage, and which molester-murderers were the worst. I told them, of course there are more such crimes by heterosexuals--that's because there are more heterosexuals.

No one can deny that there are both hetero and homo murderers.

For years of my adult life, in between being extremely angry at people who molest, and at other people who both rape and kill, children, I have pondered "what are child molesters really like, and how can these people be eradicated from the face of the earth--especially the ones who kill?"

Having male children, I paid more attention to atrocities perpetrated against male children, though of course female children are just as innocent and just as deserving of protection. This emphasis, in my mind, on crimes against male children, led me to pay attention to cases in which it was male-on-male molestation and/or murder.

I work, and have worked, in the criminal justice system, so I've seen a lot of cases and read a lot of police reports and transcripts, and have seen a lot of interviews and conducted some interviews, of molested children.

I'm no psychology expert, but I have a new theory, just a layperson's theory, about child molesters. My theory is that they are neither truly heterosexual, nor truly homosexual. They are in a class by themselves. They are so extremely dysfunctional that they can't even function in any sector of the adult sexual world.

In support of my theory, I am asking you to pay attention to any child molesters you may have actually known. (I hope you haven't known any, but if you have, study them.) What I see are people who come across as very, very nice, kindly, sweet people. Many of them are engaging in their crimes under the cover of some sort of mentoring. Often, but not always, they prey on children who do not have a strong father who is glaringly present. These molesters are true snakes, but it is a fact that many of the men who molest young boys (maybe working as coaches, etc.) are not involved in the homosexual "community"--the one we've all seen and read about. If you are honest with yourselves, you will see this. A homosexual who openly admits to his sexuality has an honesty that a child molester does not have--child molesters are very, very dishonest.

As for those who kill children, whether it's girls or boys, those animals are driven first by their lust for blood. Any "sexuality" they may have is so warped that it is often not recognizable as either hetero or homo.

I do agree, those homosexual activists (as well as those heterosexuals) who condone NAMBLA, are my enemies. But not all homosexuals condone it; I think the majority do not.

This child-killing and child-molesting is a thing apart from just the usual political back-and-forth shoving match between heterosexuals and homosexuals. I doubt if we could find many humans of either sexuality who would have a single word of sympathy for the animal that kills children.
61 posted on 11/02/2002 9:36:43 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Martyn Tarne
Don't be so self-centered as to take this opportunity to push an anti-homosexual agenda.

I think his point was well taken. Whether the crime was actually committed by a homosexual or not, the fact that it might have been means this case gets treated differently than if the victim was a girl. It is hard to deny that this stuff gets covered up all the time to avoid offending the homosexuals. Even if the profile fits, you won't see the media publicizing this sad story.

You can believe what you want, but I would be willing to bet there is a homosexual element involved in his murder. No agenda - just facts.

62 posted on 11/02/2002 9:56:08 PM PST by CalConservative
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To: GrandmaC
It's sad enuogh no matter what, but I'm hoping that this kid fell, or had a rare aneurism, or something. I haven't read the whole thread or followed the story, but is there a chance that this is not murder?
65 posted on 11/02/2002 10:11:07 PM PST by agrandis
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To: Martyn Tarne
Now how do you know that this poster has a hate agenda? Maybe you have not been paying attention to the PC treatment of certain groups. We just saw this with the DC sniper and the constant claims that it was an angry white man. Tough that it was a black and a Muslim. You must be living in a dream world to believe that this certain groups can do no wrong does not exist. Remember the difference in the coverage of Jesse Dirkheising and the gay in Wyoming that those two yahoos killed? A few years ago there was a series of assaults here in San Diego. The cops stated that nothing could be done as they were undermanned.
As soon as the claim was made that gays were the victims all kinds of assistance was available. And the guilty were caught. But no one cared until it was made into an gay issue.
66 posted on 11/02/2002 10:54:10 PM PST by willyone
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To: home educate
And may the fiend who did this be caught and summarily killed.

I agree with that for sure! We don't know yet if it was a murder. I read that the little boy had some sort of health problems, not just asthma, but some sort of cardiac problem. He's definitely not living now, and I find myself actually hoping that it was his condition, not some monster, that ended his life. That might provide some small comfort to a person like me, who didn't know him, but I know it will be useless to his family and friends, who must suffer, regardless of the cause of his death. How they will endure it, I can't even imagine.

Did you notice the stuff about homosexual killers vs. heterosexual killers? I sometimes think that the really virulent activists are doing harm to their position by pushing this hate-crime stuff. A climate of resentment has grown up, and we feel that we are on the defensive b/c of the crap we hear about, the political correctness that is constantly pushed in the media. People need to realize that controversy sells newspapers and magazines and TV shows. They are stirring people up, making a problem seem bigger than it is.

No one is coming to my children and indoctrinating them. Since I am with them every day, how could any "agenda" possibly compete with my influence on them? If some public entity--or private media entity--pushes a view I don't agree with, I am right there to give equal time to my disagreement. I have confidence that the kids will see things in a rational way. So far, they appear to.

Homosexuality has apparently been around for as long as heterosexuality has. If people are going to talk about God's plan, and/or about nature's way, they should realize that the world and its ways are never all within the power of one person's understanding.

No homosexual could turn me into a homosexual, and I truly don't believe they could permanently affect my children's sexuality. IMO, it's ridiculous to fear such things. So we need to try to find common ground with these people. Sure, I get ticked off when I hear the activists, with their extreme, hateful statements. But all humans are subject to such things. There's anger on both sides. The majority of homosexuals, like the majority of people in general, are law-abiding. We needn't blame all of them for the irresponsible statements made by a few.

67 posted on 11/02/2002 11:40:04 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Motherbear
Did this state have an amber alert system?

I don't know. If it doesn't, I hope it does soon.

68 posted on 11/03/2002 12:27:56 AM PST by Dianna
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To: Martyn Tarne
You bet I do,you are right about pedophiles,so why wasn't an amber alert sounded here,very simple,chris was a boy and to sound an amber alert it would be directed toward somegay pedophile,a big pc no no.If chris was a girl,it would have been directed to some heterosexual pedophile,and an amber alert would have been sounded.If you don't think the gay community has and agenda in our schools and our country,you had better think again.
69 posted on 11/03/2002 2:02:40 AM PST by eastforker
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To: Devil_Anse
"So we need to try to find common ground with these people."

No, we don't. We don't need to give them any sense that being a pervert is acceptable. That might be how YOU handle the misguided; that position only gives room for them to become more twisted. Might I suggest you talk to one who's "gone straight"? You may be suprised when they TELL you they NEEDED someone - ANYONE - to challenge their CHOICE.

Evil increases exponentially when not held in check....

70 posted on 11/03/2002 3:44:30 AM PST by azhenfud
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To: God'sgrrl
I am SO SORRY...prayers for you all.
71 posted on 11/03/2002 3:47:00 AM PST by kcvl
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To: God'sgrrl
The body of a young white male was found about 10:25 a.m. under a bridge at the interchange of U.S. 311 bypass and Eastchester Drive in north High Point, about three miles from the Dixon home.

It is seriously doubtful that Christopher walked to a bridge area and then just died. He was murdered. May God grant that his killer(s) be found and stopped immediately.

72 posted on 11/03/2002 4:03:13 AM PST by xJones
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To: eastforker
What were the "unusual circumstances" in this case? It seems to me that any missing child qualifies, but was there more here?
73 posted on 11/03/2002 9:40:26 AM PST by TankerKC
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To: azhenfud
Let me put it this way. They are people. They are living on this planet with you and me. The majority of them, I believe, are law-abiding.

Some of them may be able to change their sexuality. I wonder, however, about anyone who claims to be able to change their sexuality like you or I would change a coat. Long, long, long before I ever heard of the debate on whether homosexuals could be turned into heterosexuals, I just felt instinctively that they were homosexuals from their earliest childhood. Hell, I knew I was heterosexual (w/o knowing the actual term for it) when I was in first grade. How about you?

Like everything in God's world, homosexuals have a purpose for being here. While we are different from them, we are no greater in God's eyes than any other human being.

I do not advocate the promiscuity engaged in by (it seems) many homosexuals, in particular male homosexuals. Nor do I advocate promiscuity by heterosexuals (also epidemic, it seems, these days.) As for pedophilia and the molestation of children, I hate it. I don't think God would look askance at me if I were to say that we, law-abiding people in general, ARE better than people who molest children. Obviously, we law-abiding people are better than those who murder innocents, and I believe it is our duty and right to destroy those who murder.

But homosexuals as a group are as varied as are heterosexuals. And don't forget, there are persons out there who are regarded as heterosexual, who also advocate the sexualization of children. Such people should be condemned by both law-abiding heterosexuals, and law-abiding homosexuals.

If you want to say that homosexuals cannot be law-abiding b/c you suspect that they do something in their bedrooms that is against some laws, I would have to ask, why would you want to know what goes on in someone else's bedroom? (And I have no respect for people who publicize what they do in their bedroom.)

Don't you see, much of the screaming and spewing about issues such as pollution, animal abuse, tree abuse, "children's rights," race and "civil rights", and "the gay agenda", is simply the use of issues as a cover for the imposition of collectivist-type society and governance? If I find a person who is in favor of individual rights, the family, and decency, I am not going to reject that person simply because they happen to be homosexual. Another person's sexuality is none of my business anyway, unless that person is in a serious relationship with me.


74 posted on 11/03/2002 11:17:59 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: God'sgrrl
I haven't been following this, as I couldn't get on Free Republic for a while for some reason. Whether this is Christopher, or another young boy, I ask that God comfort and keep the family close to Him, in Jesus' name. If it is discovered that there was foul play involved, I pray that the perpetrators will be found and receive swift justice (good luck to that with our system, I know). There are so many places God is needed -- and He does such a wonderful job of healing and comforting us all.

Carolyn

75 posted on 11/03/2002 11:34:51 AM PST by CDHart
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To: Martyn Tarne
And the rest of us, Sir, are sick and tired of the Media in effect, ignoring crimes committed by homosexual pedophiles, regardless of how heinous they may be under the pretense that it will stirr up hatred of homsexuals in general and result in so called bashing of them. It is also the heighth of assinity that we hear the never ending monotnous drone of the those who push the homosexual agenda, of how vile was the death of Mathew Shephard and those who murdered him, ( it was vile and so were his murderers) while ignoring the death of many young boys since then, at the hands of homosexual pedophiles.

We of the none deviant persuasion, are merely asking that crimes and criminals be reported, revealed and harped upon with equal ferosity and intensity, whether or not it fuels the agenda of the politically correct and/or homosexual agendas or instead exposes their threat to the survival of civilization.

76 posted on 11/03/2002 11:48:16 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: Devil_Anse
"The majority of homosexuals, like the majority of people in general are law abiding."

Yeah, homosexuals are law abiding now, since society lowered...nay removed the bar altogether, in order to accomodate their moral sickness. Are we to now turn our heads or shut our eyes as the more aggressive of those of the deviant persuasion, force the young and weakest of the heterosexual populace to submit to their degenerate sex acts, and then murder them to leave no witness to the crime?

What is the next group of militant sexual sickies, that will demand that their illness be declared normal and legal? There is practly no controlling legal authority.
77 posted on 11/03/2002 12:12:48 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Apparently you are making a slippery-slope argument. While I agree that sometimes there is a slippery slope, so to speak, I think it depends. I earlier asserted that the extreme versions of various "causes," such as civil rights (I'm not afraid to say that), animal rights, "children's rights," tree rights, and I left out ATHEISM, meant to include that one, and "the homosexual agenda," are all just cover for an underlying purpose of promoting collectivism (communism, socialism) instead of individual freedom.

If you say that tolerating (for example) grown men doing intimate things with other grown men will lead to tolerance of grown men doing intimate things with children, then you seem to be saying that it's just a short skip from adult homosexuality to pedophilia. If that is the case, then it would seem that the issue really isn't "fighting for tolerance" of homosexuality, but some UNDERLYING agenda for it is being used.

Would it be possible for you to change your own sexual attraction from attraction to adults of the opposite sex, to attraction to CHILDREN of either sex? I doubt it.

Homosexuals are not, as a group, lacking in prosperity. They are not, as a group, lacking in education. They seem to be able to live where they want to live; some of the most beautiful places in the U.S. have a good number of homosexuals living there. They live among us; there is one (a very respectable citizen) on my street in my suburb, the most affluent suburb in our metro area. They hold public office. In my opinion, if they feel left out, it's in their minds mostly. I don't see that there is any crisis situation or inequity as to their ability to live in this country.

So why are there these small, extreme groups that drive the rest of us crazy by being so shrill and obtrusive? I think those groups are driven by something OTHER than a "need" to "gain" the human rights of homosexuals. I think those groups have an agenda that has more to do with socialism/communism, than with homosexuality.

If a group of militant PEDOPHILES (such as NAMBLA) wants my children to use to get their jollies, obviously it ain't gonna happen (without their killing my kids' parents first.) It would not bother me in the least if every member of NAMBLA were wiped off the face of the earth. I agree that homosexuals who support this group are people whom I would not find common ground with. (Don't forget, there are heterosexuals who support this group, too.) But if two adult men (or women) want to be intimate somewhere private, I DON'T CARE.
79 posted on 11/03/2002 5:29:38 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: F.J. Mitchell
What do you propose we do to all the heterosexuals as a result of men killing little girls?
80 posted on 11/03/2002 10:36:06 PM PST by Texaggie79
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