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The Truth about the USS Liberty
College Voice of Connecticut College | Will be Nov. 1st | Yoni Freeman

Posted on 10/30/2002 3:37:06 PM PST by yonif

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To: yonif
came over to campus and presented a new documentary "showing" that there was a conspiracy between Lyndon Johnson and the Israeli government to make the USS Liberty incident look like an accident.

Uhhhh, it was definately no accident. Outright attack would be more appropriate description.

41 posted on 10/30/2002 9:44:55 PM PST by Mordoch
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To: D-fendr
Why would they want to thwart US communications intellgence gathering?

Thanks! Hardest I've laughed all day!

42 posted on 10/30/2002 9:47:25 PM PST by Mordoch
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Pre-attack reconnaissance. Israel claims that the only aircraft near us were high in the sky carrying troops to the front lines. Not so. This airplane is typical of eight separate daylight reconnaissance aircraft that circled us a total of thirteen times during the morning, often so low directly overhead that they rattled the deck plating
43 posted on 10/30/2002 9:52:56 PM PST by green team 1999
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Israeli torpedo boat circling the ship

(at that distance even without glasses crew could have seen us flag)

44 posted on 10/30/2002 9:57:19 PM PST by green team 1999
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i>Fact, Israel was at war with Egypt and as there was an understanding there were no US Ships in the vacinity it simply thought it was an Egyptian ship.

But the USS Liberty looked nothing like the Egyptan ship Israel claimed to have "mistakenly" thought it was. (Do Egyptian ships fly American flags?)

I'm pro-Israel, but I have also been in touch with and have listened to Jim Ennes, and I find him very credible. As someone said earlier, I'll take the word of our sailors. I believe them.

45 posted on 10/30/2002 9:57:28 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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Israeli Mystere jet during the attack. This picture was taken by Captain McGonagle using the 35MM camera kept on the bridge.
46 posted on 10/30/2002 9:59:27 PM PST by green team 1999
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The Egyptian horse carrier El Quseir which Israel claims their forces mistook for the USS Liberty
47 posted on 10/30/2002 10:02:41 PM PST by green team 1999
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To: yonif
Info on this
48 posted on 10/30/2002 10:04:06 PM PST by Mordoch
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Air ducts exploded from the force of the torpedo explosion
49 posted on 10/30/2002 10:06:48 PM PST by green team 1999
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Superstructure battle damage

(they were shooting with everything they got,but the ship refused to sink)

51 posted on 10/30/2002 10:13:19 PM PST by green team 1999
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They don't deny the truth. They did fire upon the ship, but in a mode of where they didn't know it was American.

Wanna buy some swampland?

52 posted on 10/30/2002 10:16:56 PM PST by Mordoch
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Rocket holes, port side
53 posted on 10/30/2002 10:19:35 PM PST by green team 1999
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Battle and fire damage, signal bridge
54 posted on 10/30/2002 10:22:56 PM PST by green team 1999
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USS Liberty, listing and battle damaged
55 posted on 10/30/2002 10:26:43 PM PST by green team 1999
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USS Liberty arriving Valletta, Malta Her American flag is clearly visible This is the same size flag that Israeli forces claim they could not see

(notice the center mast with us flag)

56 posted on 10/30/2002 10:31:49 PM PST by green team 1999
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The Japanese government took full responsibility for sinking the Panay but continued to maintain that the attack had been unintentional. The formal apology reached Washington on Christmas Eve. Although Japanese officials maintained that their pilots never saw any American flags on the Panay, a U.S. Navy court of inquiry determined that several U.S. flags were clearly visible on the vessel during the attacks. Four days before the apology reached Washington, the Japanese government admitted that the Japanese army strafed the Panay and its survivors after the navy airplanes had bombed it. The Japanese government paid an indemnity of $2,214,007.36 to the United States on April 22, 1938, officially settling the Panay incident

Sound familiar ?

See it can happen to anybody

On Dec 11 1937 The Japanese made the same error. Opps Sooo sorry

The above excerpt is from "Two Japans": Japanese Expressions of Sympathy and Regret in the Wake of the Panay Incident

On Dec 11 Th. 1937 the Japanese attacked and sank the Gunboat U.S.S. Panay in China on the Yangtze River.And clamed it was mistake.

The Sinking of Panay, 12 December 1937

PR-5 USS Panay

Isn't it something how history repeats self.

57 posted on 10/30/2002 11:24:48 PM PST by quietolong
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I spent 10 years in the VP Navy ( the designation given to air patrol squadrons ) Flying over ships and ID them. And you all are trying to tell me Israeli pilots are blind and a bunch of Dullards. And there air intelligence people are morons ? That they went duaaa for over an hour as air and sea units attacked. I don’t think so. There some of the best in the business.

The ship was easier to spot that a unmarked cop car sitting looking for speeders.

It’s clean & shinny, has persons with uniforms on and has antennas sticking out all over it. And it was flying a US flag & had US Navy marking on it.

As a TV personality would say.. Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

58 posted on 10/30/2002 11:31:01 PM PST by quietolong
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HA-HA-HA! Of course Egyptians putting on American flag and uniforms in order to infiltrate Israeli waters is totally unthinkable.

Don't pee on my leg, indeed

59 posted on 10/30/2002 11:50:00 PM PST by eclectic
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thanks for your reply.

Was the US opposed to Israel taking the Golan? Were we a threat to their defense efforts?

I think it was justified morally and for their defense, and I thought the US position agreed.

So, I'm afraid I still don't see the motivation there.

thanks again.
60 posted on 10/31/2002 6:02:24 AM PST by D-fendr
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