Yes, the Sniper Was a Terrorist

The Weekly Standard ^ | November 4th, 2002 | David Tell

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[Destro]

I heard a story on abc radio that when police were tagging the sniper, another car blocked the police from some sort of pursuit. Any news on this?

[stands2reason]

Good article. Bump!

[Grampa Dave]

We have a lot of Freepers who don't want to use the word terrorism regardless if it comes for the anarchists, the Elfs, the al Qaeda, the al Fugra or these Nation of Islam serial terrorists.

This summer when the crazed son of an Egyptian general killed via terrorist acts at LAX, within minutes Israel had labeled it an act of terrorism. The Politically Correct spokesmouth would not call that terrorism and act of terrorism. Later the PC arm of the Former Bureau of Investigation admitted that those murders were probably terrorism.

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[BobFromNJ]

Bump--Right on!

[Wolfstar]

The American public will NEVER be protected from terrorism as long as they keep electing Leftist Democrats. I do not call them "liberal," a label which intentionally soft-soaps what they really are all about. From Carter's betrayal of the Shah of Iran, leading to the rise of Ayatollah Khomeni, to Clinton's feckless negligence in the face of the rising threat posed by radical Islamists around the globe — from the willingness of most on the Left to essentially surrender to the communist Sovient bloc during the Cold War, to their constant desire to weaken our military and national defenses — the Leftist Dems pose a grave danger to this nation. If all those interests groups who are enthralled with Dem patronage and redistributionist programs ever finally get it, the danger may be too great to overcome.

[wcbtinman]

I think this guy is gonna walk.

If he has any sort of attorney, they will get all of the evidence relating to how the firearm is tied to the shooter made inadmissable. The Fed's screwed up when they used the 4473's and the no longer secret registration database in violation of federal law, via the Brady act, to tie the shooter to the gun.

If they can't admit the firearm tie-in, they don't have a case. Reality says that he will be convicted in the lower court, and have it overturned on appeal.

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

And he is tied to FaraCON and I would bet has sympathies for Bin Loon Laden.

[copycat]

Kathleen Kennedy Townsend is surely onto something when she calls this conclusion a "no brainer."

KKT should studiously avoid any casual usage of the term "no-brainer."

[Inyokern]

I heard a story on abc radio that when police were tagging the sniper, another car blocked the police from some sort of pursuit. Any news on this?

I think they were referring to the Alabama killing. They think a third person may have been involved in that one.

[Cold Heat]

There is a post on the subject. As I understand, a blue sedan was leaving a drive up restaurant window and almost nailed Muhammed as he fled police on foot.

The only thing they have is that is was blue. The cops wanted the car as it had the perps prints on the hood. That's about it.

Now it is talked about as a possible match to the blue caprice. yatta,yatta,yatta

[copycat]

John Allen Muhammad...disembowel(ed) 35-year-old bus driver Conrad Johnson with a Bushmaster XM-15 rifle.

Now I'm pissed. Do you suppose if these two individuals, Malvo and Muhammed, were to suffer a violent, unexplained, and horrible death in their cells, that future snipers might think twice?

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[Weirdad]

Interesting comments you make! They bear repeating:

I think this guy is gonna walk. If he has any sort of attorney, they will get all of the evidence relating to how the firearm is tied to the shooter made inadmissable. The Fed's screwed up when they used the 4473's and the no longer secret registration database in violation of federal law, via the Brady act, to tie the shooter to the gun. If they can't admit the firearm tie-in, they don't have a case. Reality says that he will be convicted in the lower court, and have it overturned on appeal.

What are "4473's" and what is the registration database (and how is it no longer secret?) you are talking about?

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I heard a story on abc radio that when police were tagging the sniper, another car blocked the police from some sort of pursuit. Any news on this?

3rd Person Involved in Beltway Sniper Case?
Montgomery AL Police Chief Wants to Know.

[DentsRun]

A terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist, no matter what purports to be his motivation.

But what is a terrorist? David Tell seems to define it as the random killing of an "unsuspecting stranger" and motivation doesn't count. That seems to make the use of the word terrorist irrelevant as it seems to turn every liquor store holdup into terrorism too (by Tell's standard Los Angeles suffers half a dozen terrorist attacks every weekened).

It might not matter to Tell why John Muhammad went on a killing spree but it sure does to me. If he were merely some deranged and deluded individual (like Charles Whitman of Texas Tower fame) his killings mean one thing. (And most blessedly they stop when the shooter is himself shot). If, on the other hand, the perpetrator is the first in a long line of religiously or ideologically driven fanatics standing in line for their turn to attack this country, the killings mean something else much worse for America.

[wcbtinman]

"What are "4473"s"..."

These are the yellow forms that citizens are required to fill out at the purchase counter in order to conduct a background check and facilitate the purchase of a firearm anywhere in the United States. They are kept in perpetuity by the dealer who has a Federal Firearms License (FFL). If and when an FFL goes out of business, he is required to turn all of these forms over to the ATF.

The ATF may inspect these forms at the dealers place of business without a warrant, but may not copy, or otherwise collect the information on these forms for the purpose of creating a "registration" or "database" of gun owners. So says the "law".

The reality is quite different.

[Weirdad]

Thanks for the comments and the information. So the exact abuses people thought would occur have been demonstrated in this case, which because of its nature will of course be "excused." And therefore the situation will desensitize the public toward accepting abuse of the information.