Contents of Hunley museum could be an issue

The State ^ | 27 October 2002 | JOHN MONK

[aomagrat]

"We don't need a shrine to the Confederacy."

Translation: Any mention of the Confederacy in this museum and we'll boycott.

[aomagrat]

Dixie Ping!

[Pyro7480]

This is ridiculous. The PC-thugs want to rewrite history. While I disagree with some Southern sentiments about the war, this is pure history revision. The Hunley was the first submarine to successfully carry out an attack, and it was supporters of the Confederate States of America who created her - plain and simple.

[Non-Sequitur]

Ensign G. Hazeltine. Captains Clerk H. Muzzey. Quartermaster J. Williams. Coal Passer J. Welsch. Seaman T. Parker. Will any of those names be in your damned museum?

[Husker24]

Why dont they just have A museum about THE DAMN SUBMARINE!

[billbears]

I am sick and tired of the name of the South being run through the mud by revisionist hack historians like Joyner and the PC police

[strela]

Coal Passer J. Welsch

A "coal passer" in a human-powered submarine? Was he part of the Hunley's crew?

[aomagrat]

It's not my museum.

I don't see how you could have a museum for the Hunley without having an exhibit on the USS Housatonic and her brave crew.

By your tone I take it you are against a museum for the Hunley. I reckon you would rather see it destroyed and removed from all history books.

[Non-Sequitur]

No. The men I mentioned died on the Housatonic.

[Non-Sequitur]

Not at all. I just assume that there wouldn't be any place for Yankees in it.

[billbears]

Why not? The men who died on the Housatonic were brave sailors. Of course they should be mentioned. Right along with the men of the Hunley

[Non-Sequitur]

We'll see. I was over on the Shuckmeister's chatroom, you know, the one where they were celebrating the people killed on 9/11, and on one thread was talking about that CSN lieutenant that they reburied down in Florida. They grudgingly mentioned that 'a few Yankees' were in attendance in a way that made it clear that they weren't welcome.

[Burkeman1]

Ughhh. When will this nonsense stop? Here is an example of a very early Submarine- without the benefit of electricity or diesel power- the bravery of the men who submerged themselves in that Submarine should be honored.

I think it is well past time that we should take American Slavery into historical context. Since the "multi-culturists" who teach our children and inhabit the tatters of the "intellectual" Left today are so big at looking at other cultures why don't we do it honestly at the time of the Civil War? Let's look at the lives of the average Chinese peasent in 1860 and compare his living standard to that of an African American slave in Virginia? What would we find? Why not compare the standard of living of the average African tribesman in West Africa to the average slave in America? How about the quality of life as one of the members of the lowest caste in India to an African American slave?

Why don't we examine the fact that slavery was far more common throughout the world in 1860 than in America? This is not to say that slavery wasn't evil or wrong. But taken in historical context slavery in America was downright civilized compared to the rest of the world.

[strela]

I would shudder to think of the conditions in an airtight submarine that small if anyone passed **anything**.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

My grandmother, who is still living, has told me plenty of stories about her Grandfather who fought for the Confederacy in the Civil War. He owned no slaves and wasn't fighting to preserve slavery per se. He was fighting to protect his homeland, the South.

[Bob Mc]

"He was fighting to protect his homeland, the South."

Indeed. If the truth be known, most southern people back then had no interest in slavery, unfair northern tariffs, or politics of any sort. But once the Northern soldiers began blockading and invading, Yes indeed, they were fighting to protect their homeland.

Lincoln should be vilified for what he did to Americans. A real leader would have found peaceful ways to resolve these problems.

[oyez]

"It makes me sad to think so much Southern ingenuity, heroism and manhood was used by Confederate leaders to try to break up the Union and preserve slavery," said Charles Joyner, a historian at Coastal Carolina University

By that statement some are very liberal about throwing around the title of "historian".

[stainlessbanner]

"The last thing the rest of the world needs is to regard South Carolina as the state where the Confederacy lives forever," said Jackson

Too late, homefry - the CSA lives forever in the great state of South Carolina. No matter how much you boycott, no matter how much you change the story, no matter how many flags you try to remove, South Carolina was part of the Confederacy. That is history, that's a fact, and there's no changin' it!

[Non-Sequitur]

A real leader would have found peaceful ways to resolve these problems.

What does that say for Jefferson Davis then, since he introduced armed conflict into the equation by firing on Sumter?