Posted on 10/26/2002 2:57:03 PM PDT by Roscoe
So that sentence is what, alcohol? You need to be more careful since you place yourself as such a smug, selfrightious arbiter of all that is correct for the minions.
"One common myth is that the drug is safe. Experts agree ...."
See, you copy and paste, but we still don't know what "experts" make this claim. Erronious info is not unknown in the media, but you agree with this so it must be so.
. It is YOU who fails to already address the posted points and slings ad homs
Read your own posts and then be ashamed at your hypocracy.
"It has been estimated that over three million teenagers are out-and-out alcoholics. Several million more have a serious drinking problem that they cannot manage on their own."
"It has been estimated ..."
Of course the site never says who made the estimate. They do seem to profite from this admitted problem, and so have motive to exaggerate it. But even if true, I said that no one is hanging around schools peddling booze. You skipped around that. And you failed to support your ASSERTION that MJ use would rise if it were legal and controlled.
Since you made the point, do you support outlawing booze since it is such a bane to "the children"?
Just as your assertions always are.
You can't post where I asserted that because I didn't, but you asserted it would increase
Your assertion is unsupported by facts Just as your assertions always are.
Come on, Roscoe, put the Gin away and stay on point
Unsupported by fact or reason.
Unsupported by fact or reason.
Check Mate. Dolt.
Your black market assertion is proving to be an utter failure.
Says you, but then logic is not your long suit. Dodging, evasion, strawman, ad hom, that is more your style. You have failed to support your assertion, just obfuscated by failing to refute mine.
You are a sorry piece of human debris, Roscoe. Mindless. You missed your calling because 1930s Germany and you are just a regretable footnote in history. You both thought you were right but share a similar flawed and inflated sense of self worth.
Have fun in your twisted little world.
How does this forbidden substance compare to mandatory one - Ritalin?
Zon: I don't do non-medicinal drugs, not even alcohol or caffeine. Now you know; don't make the same error again. 180
American in Israel: Hint, throw out your bong and get a life. 182
American in Israel: This is why arguing with a pot smoker is barely preferable to hitting oneself over the head with a hammer. Next time you are looking down the barrel of a smoking bong remember, the head you just shot was your own. 184
Zon: As I previously told you in post 180, I don't do recreational drugs. Despite you having that piece of information you continue to imply that I do recreational drugs and thus you willingly demonstrate dishonesty. 191
Well Zon, your choice of the word non-medicinal is indicative of the pot smokers call for the legalization of pot under its medicinal usage. When dealing with drug addicts, I expect justification and denial.
You weren't dealing with a drug addict. I said non-medicinal drugs. There's a slew of prescription drugs that can be used for non-medicinal purposes -- the two Advil I took to relieve a headache Saturday night are OTC. You made an error and I pointed that out to you in post 180 and told you not to make the same error again, yet you chose to ignore my correcting you and compounded your error into deceit. You can rationalize irrationality all you want and it won't change a thing. I can lead a horse to water but I can't make it drink. I tried to help you but you turned away from the well and chose to dig a hole for yourself. Also, that I said in post 180 I don't even use alcohol or caffeine further clarifies that I choose not to alter my mind or body with drugs. It was your choice to rationalize irrationality that is indicative of your failure at honest character development.
Go on with your campaign to get drugs into kids hands. (May I point out again the title of the thread "Kids And Marijuana: Not A Harmless High". Perhaps one of them will visit you later in your life to “thank” you.
You have erred again, for nowhere in any post did I "campaign to get drugs into kids hands". Back up you claim by quoting where I said that I wanted to get drugs in kids hands (or adult's hands), or correct your error.
You have gone out of your way to find personal insults to shut me up or discredit me.
I have no power to shut you up. If you chose not to further dig yourself an even deeper hole that is your choice. There is the option wherein you can correct your errors and apologize. If you chose silence it is your doing, certainly not mine -- I have no power to shut you up. I identified your error and you chose to compound it. I can expose you and in doing so you discredit yourself with your words. Also, your deceit is not insulting to me -- rather, I think your deceit would be insulting to you.
Perhaps I was coarse to you. But I intentionally chose to word my comments as if you were a drug user because I was talking in a thread to many people.
Yeah right, in your communitarian "sprit" you were talking to many people -- that must be why you addressed your posts to Zon and not ALL. You mean like you were "coarse" up top where you said, "When dealing with drug addicts, I expect justification and denial", despite me previously having told you that I don't even do alcohol or caffeine, let alone not doing non-medicinal or recreational drugs and for you to not to make the same mistake again. Or do you mean like you were "coarse" up top when you claimed that I had a "campaign to get drugs into kids hands". Sorry dude, that's dishonest. Rationalizing those latest two comments, on top of your earlier error that you compounded into deceit is not merely being coarse -- no matter how you rationalize it away. But.. But... "But I..." But nothin'.
I suggest you go hang with a few pot heads and learn the results of the campaign you are mounting before you spend your life destroying people by enslaving them to drug use in the name of freedom. You do not seem to understand the damage that pot does to people. I suggest you go hang with a few pot heads and learn the results of the campaign you are mounting before you spend your life destroying people by enslaving them to drug use in the name of freedom.
The only thing I'm "campaigning" for is that no person, group of persons or government initiates force, threat of force or fraud against any person. That is the "campaign" and it is precisely where you injected yourself into it when you responded to post 169. In the process I'll also protect myself from a person's deceit hurled at me. A person can only be enslaved by the initiation of force, threat of force and fraud. Free of force a person is free to chose whatever they want, no matter how unwise or self-defeating so long as they don't initiate force against any person. No amount of proclaiming do-gooder status can make the ends justify the means of initiation of force.
What I said is very heart felt and very real even if you do not understand it. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, you seem to be in the paving business.
I don't doubt your sincerity. That said, just because a person is sincere doesn't mean that in their sincerity they were free of irrationality or didn't rationalize. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions, you seem to be in the paving business." The irony is almost overwhelming.
BTW, I did notice that you never did apologize. Not that that would bolster your claim of sincerity, right? Should I be surprised you didn't think of that? -- no.
Sure. Why should, what is only the parent's business, be made the state's or the mercahant's business.
look i am a teen and i have tried it before it is very bad for you and messes you up very bad but it is also very additive i have been around it my whole life and thank god i never got additive to it but it is harmful not harmless and there are no positive things about it. i have seen what it can do to people and to tell you the truth people who get in a car wreck because they were drinking and high is something that a person should not have to live with if they are smart enough not to do that kind of stuff.
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