Boelhert says NO NEW GUN LAWS NEEDED but Conceal and Carry SHOULD NOT BE RELAXED because of Sniper

LWV DEBATE TONIGHT | 10/22/2002 | TLBSHOW

[Shooter 2.5]

no good would come of it.

yeah, let's hope no one gets hurt while ten or more people are already shot. Someone may come upon the scene with a armed citizen and get their feeling hurt by getting reprimanded by the real cops.

[templar]

Someone may come upon the scene with a armed citizen and get their feeling hurt by getting reprimanded by the real cops.

I sure hope so. But, more likely, he will be shot dead by them for brandishing his weapon where the cops are looking for an armed shooter that just killed another person. Remember that the discussion is about armed citizens hearing the shot and going after the shooter.

[Shooter 2.5]

Why would this scenario be any different from any other CCW confrontation? Are you saying that the cops roll up and start blasting when they see someone standing over a dead street thug laying on the sidewalk? They start blasting the storeowner standing over someone in their store? They start blasting a woman with her clothes torn off standing over a guy with his pants down?
Take a CCW class and learn what has to be done in a armed confrontation and get back to me. This isn't Viet Nam and triple canopy. This is a row of trees by a street.

[templar]

Are you saying that the cops roll up and start blasting when they see someone standing over a dead street thug laying on the sidewalk

Well, in NYC it seems like they empty multiple guns into someone that i sonly trying to show his wallet for identification. It's not an isolated incident either. All the time they break into the wrong house and blast the person inside into smithereens for no other reason than he was responding to what he believed to be an intrusion (not firing at them first). Lets face it, the cops will shoot you jsut to watch you die if you give them the slightest excuse. Read the paper.

They start blasting the storeowner standing over someone in their store?

Well, this does happen fairly often. A cop comes on an armed situation where there is wahat apears to be someone getting ready to shoot and shoots that person. They seem to like to shoot kids with play toy guns as well. Always found to be justifiable shootings as well. Or what about when they raid a halloween party on an anonymous marijuana tip and show up in what apear to be haloween costumes (black sweats with POLICE on them and such), then gun down someone dressed as a cowboy because he had a six gun as part of his cosutme? BTW, this happened here locally a few years back, so son't think I'm makeing this stuff up.

[templar]

Note to self: proofread before posting!

[inquest]

So, in addition to allowing conceal-carry, we need to get rid of the cops and go back to citizen militias. Works for me.

[templar]

Works for me

Actually, it works for me as well. That was basically what we had in the 'wild west' days and (in spite of the movies)it was pretty peaceful then.

[Paul C. Jesup]

I guess you don't notice the 'shaded area' part of my question.

[templar]

I guess you don't notice the 'shaded area' part of my question.

Of course I did. Why do you think I specifically mentioned that it was dark and overcast here today?

[Paul C. Jesup]

When I said shaded, I meant as in to dark to see clearly.

[templar]

When I said shaded, I meant as in to dark to see clearly.

Judging from the times of the shootings, most of the shots would be bright daylight. A few would be too dark to see clearly anything that wasn't fairly close, but not all of them.