Posted on 10/22/2002 11:24:51 AM PDT by shrinkermd
This is most true of a certain demographic: women over 30 looking for successful, tall, attractive professional man 30-50
The kind of man these women are looking for is not interested in a woman who will make his life difficult, then attempt to rape him in divorce court. There is a shortage of men who are smart enough to be successful, but dumb enough to be easily manipulated.
When I read this out loud in my office, all the married guys, unprompted, stood up and said, "WHAT BENEFITS?".
I really do not understand why they would complain about this. If this is such a difficulty for them, I immediately see three ways to resolve it:
1. Dot not allow yourself to have children out of wedlock.
2. Accept that the male must have an equal say in whether or not to have a child.
3. Learn to make the relaionship WORK! Better yet, WORK on making the relationship work! Do not swallow that propaganda that "If he starts to get angry, just leave!"
No relationship is perfect. Learn to accept that. Both partners have to work 110% at it, and compromise where necessary.
Bloody mess really rings a bell. I could tell you stories...
LOL!!!!!
Hubby and I dated for almost two years before he popped the question (and no, we didn't live together first--yuck.....)
I mentally had had the "two year rule" in mind: If the guy you're seriously dating can't commit to marriage after two years, that IS your answer--he ISN'T "The One".) I had read a great book called "Call It Love or Call It Quits" and was determined to not be "engaged" (without a ring or a date) for five years, etc.
After proper coaching by hubby's two sisters on the "perfect engagement ring," he proposed. He barely made it under the wire on the "two year rule"--LOL. We've been happy as hogs in mud for seven years now.
My version:
Why Men Won't Commit: All about the cows that are giving the milk for free.
--STOP being sexually promiscuous. (The chicks who complain the loudest about men not committing always seem to be the ones who get boinked on the first date, shack up regularly,etc.)
--STOP having sex with LOSERS because you'll end up raising Loser Junior by yourself. (Loser defined: married men, men already divorced twice, men who can't/won't keep a job, men with drinking problems, etc.) I never to cease to be appalled by single women raising children whose fathers are in prison, are ex-cons, are chronically unemployed, have three other illigetimate children, left the state and can't be found, etc.
No more false statement has ever been made in the history of humankind.
No more false statement has ever been made in the history of humankind.
I am simultaneously happy for the both of you, and quite envious. I was always the odd one out in My youth. The one-night stand never held any appeal for Me: a long-term relationship leading to marriage was always My preference. All the girls I knew back then however, were more interested in chasing the 'hunks' (or preferably a doctor/lawyer/rich guy).
Now, however, I see the consequences of their decisions -and now they are pointedly hinting about their interests in Me. I, however, am determined to find a woman of higher quality to settle down with.
Would that I be as fortunate as you two someday.
Just killed Me.
"But can they get pregnant outside of marriage without the aid of a man? Not without expense and extraordinary medical treatment."
I assume the term "Nocturnal Emission" means nothing to you. Or does not exist in your universe.
And it is not unknown for a female to use guile or act facetiously simply to use a male as a 'doner' -and then dump him when her goal is accomplished.
As to the question of manipulative women...I agree. Some are. So, are you saying that it is impossible for a man to think more highly of himself so that he does not to engage in sex with a woman he is not married to?
1. Feminists are largely to blame. They encouraged sexual freedom, while not realizing that most guys are basically walking hormone bags and won't buy the cow if they can get the milk for free. Duh.
2. Most women I know are whiney and want it all. They cry at the drop of a hat (gee, thanks for the glass ceiling) and yet they want to be treated as "equals".
3. Women also are, ehh, weird and self-contradictory. They may want kids--yet if a guy will tenderly touch her while watching kids play or something, they'll be scared away.
4. Men aren't entirely free from blame. Most guys my age are, eh, rather taken with the frat-style lifestyle and that turns off a lot of women. Men need to shape up, too.
5. Men who do want to marry tend to be rather religious and therefore they don't want anyone except a woman who will stay in the house, stay uneducated and bear 7 children. So there's a kind of dichotomy out there for us women--either we can have this very traditionalist guy we wouldn't be able to stand, or this frat guy we wouldn't be able to stand. So the choices suck for women too.
I've got absolutely no illusion of ever finding permanent love. Jim, love's dead. Forever.
I said nothing about abortion. Please do not attempt to use obfiscation in leiu of a valid rebuttal. I know personally of one individual who used such a source to attain her goals. Granted, they probably should not have been sleeping in the same domicile in the first place, but it sufficed well enough. It also did not help that he was a heavy sleeper.
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