Sniper used voice altering technology, foreign accent

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[muawiyah]

The gas stations are not that obvious. We should get their exact addresses, go to the Montgomery County tax records, and determine who owns the buildings.

Remember, there are both company owned and franchise operators, and ownership of the buildings may rest in the hands of a third party.

Ultimately, however, any analysis of this sort must address the shooting of the Haitian gentleman. This happened just inside the DC line. It was nearest to the Washington Ethical Society. The "WashingtonBlade", an homosexual on-line newspaper claims there's a synagogue in there. It's not otherwise identified elsewhere.

Makes for an interesting angle.

[muawiyah]

Fur shur, "Aaron's", Michaels other trade-name, has origins among the Twelve Tribes of israel, as does the "Benjamin" in Benjamin Tasker school, or "Manassas" in the city of Manassas.

Leisure World developments can be predominantly Jewish - maybe this one is?! Hillandale Beer and Wine, another shooting site, is a place I know Hebrew has been regularly spoken.

If all the other sites are located within a few hundred feet of a synagogue, or are owned by people reputed to be Jewish, then we should look for a Palestinian connection.

Along that line, if you do a Google.com search for the street names involving today's shooting, you will find yourself staring at a Palestinian anti-Israel, anti-Jewish website referring to same. I suppose this could be done with all the other sites. It's probably one of the shooter's planning determinents.

If you assume the single-shooter theories are nonsense, the evidence to date readily supports at least two pre-planning operations and several shooters. This explains anomalies, even the Ponderosa!

[StockAyatollah]

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[muawiyah]

McVeigh tried joining a couple of "militia" but was rejected for his leftist positions. He hung around with folks into "interacial marriage".

There's very little doubt that Tim McVeigh was far to the left of even Teddy Kennedy! (somewhere near Chuck Schumer, in fact!)

[muawiyah]

Regarding the "ecoterror" connection, those guys are usually anti-capitalist as well. 45+ of the "Ride On" buses are privately owned. Montgomery County contracts with their owners!

[steve-b]

You've got 5 admitted scent bases. That gives you five main groups.

As I explained above, five items that are individually uncertain, but probably have the right scent in there somewhere (if not, then of course it's just hopeless) effectively gives you one scent base. If each item is used separately, then a region that turns up negative when Group 1 goes through would have to be separately checked by Group 2, etc, in case the dogs missed because Item 1 (etc) lacked the scent. Thus, using the items as separate scent bases doesn't increase the coverage area -- it's more efficient to have the dogs sniff them all and cover each area once.

It's worth a try, but your dismissals of its rather serious limitations makes you sound like the stereotypical armchair expert.

[steve-b]

As I mentioned above, my earlier rough figure was based on the description of checking out "apartment buildings" etc (i.e. lots of building corridors in addition to streets). Based on Southack's clarification that he meant just checking the streets, your figures are about right.

[steve-b]

McVeigh tried joining a couple of "militia" but was rejected for his leftist positions.

Nope -- McVeigh was bounced from the Michigan Militia when he started advocating violent action and convinced the regular members that he was either a kook or a provocateur.

[PoisedWoman]

Along that line, if you do a Google.com search for the street names involving today's shooting, you will find yourself staring at a Palestinian anti-Israel, anti-Jewish website referring to same. I suppose this could be done with all the other sites. It's probably one of the shooter's planning determinents.

Good grief! Have you checked out this possibility?

[muawiyah]

He was also rejected by the other group at Elohim City, OK. They definitely had some problems with his circle of friends.

[YoungKentuckyConservative]

Where the gun-police will easily find it? You have to do better than that. A nice hide, or several in public parks or forrests, the rough of golf courses, or just out in some farmer's out of the way pasture or along a fenceline, where the land is not tilled, among some brush or small trees. You might get away with cutting a hole in your slab or basement, and then capping it with fresh concrete. The re-bar in the slab would tend to foil metal detectors and only a sonar would stand a chance of picking up the repair if its under a carpet or wood floor.

Very interesting response. I guess I never thought forward enough to "gun police". Is this a tactict used in "restrictive" nations like the UK and Australia? How would one cut a slab of concrete out of a portion of their unfinished basement? Diamond Blade? Can these be rented? Might be nice for digging and building a private storage/Tornado room, anyhow. I'm beginning to fear this may start a new home project. =)

[anka]

ain't that the truth.

'got tin?' ;)

[Boiler Plate]

The last two shootings took place on Grand Pre Road in Aspen Hill, MD and England Street in Ashland, VA. A search for Grand Pre Road provides numerous links for auto racing and five star hotels. A search for England Street is turns up the obvious links to home of the Bard. Swell idea but wrong none the less.

[El Gato]

How would one cut a slab of concrete out of a portion of their unfinished basement? Diamond Blade? Can these be rented?

Plumbers and such cut chunks out of the concrete all the time, down here where there are no basements and the plumbing often runs under, or in, the slab. A few years ago, just after the first WTC bombing as a matter of fact, my insurance company sent out a structural engineer to check out my slabe. Amoung other things they cut three 3" circular holes through the slabe, and then went down about 12 feet taking core samples. (they also went down 20-30 feet outside the house to check on the water table). They used a simple circular bit on their "drill rig". I imagine that for a larger hole you'd want to use a concrete blade in a circular saw. You see those in use cutting through roads and driveways by utlitity crews. I'm sure you could rent the saw, and buy a few blades (they wear out quickly).

I don't think the UK or Oz work very hard at finding hidden guns, but they do have "gun police", effectively at least. So do we, they are called the BATF, plus state and local police in the more restrictive states and localities. Mostly they don't have to hunt for the guns, the sheeple turn them in voluntarily. Although non-compliance rates have been high in both California and Austrailia from what I've read. They just use the "illegal gun" charges to increase the sentences of people they get on other charges, or to get people that become too troublesome. It's a selectively appled technique. Still one should think ahead.

Of course such a place makes an excellent safe, so even if you don't worry about the gun police, you could still build one, although preferably one with a steel or other sturdy lid and a combo lock, to save cutting through the concrete every time you want to use your firearms. :)

[El Gato]

his leftist positions. He hung around with folks into "interacial marriage".

Most miltia groups could care less about "interacial marriage". Admittedly there are some groups that do care, for example the one that McViegh is said to have had contacts with in northeastern Oklahoma, for example, but I wouldn't call those "militia" groups, just a bunch of thugs of the same sort as that "wise old man" of the Senate, former KKKer, Senator Byrd.

[muawiyah]

You must use the names of both roads at the major intersection at the site and also look for the name of any major park, graveyard, building, school, or whatever.

It takes time to find these things. When you do find them and do a search for them, you will find any one of a number of Palestinian anti-semitic or anti-Israel sites.

[Boiler Plate]

You must use the names of both roads at the major intersection at the site and also look for the name of any major park, graveyard, building, school, or whatever. It takes time to find these things. When you do find them and do a search for them, you will find any one of a number of Palestinian anti-semitic or anti-Israel sites.

Mu,

Let me get this straight. You are saying that if you keep trying all the different names for roads, parks, shops, building, landmarks, dogs, cats, vanity license plates ect.around any of the shooting sites that eventually there is a connection to something jewish or anti-semetic?

No kidding! Wow! And you are saying that the killers planned all these killings around getting this message across? Is that what I am hearing?

OK I'll bite. Tell me what I should search for in connection to the last three shootings.

Regards,
Boiler Plate

P.S. It looks that this may be wrapping up here soon do you you really want to stick to your story?

[YoungKentuckyConservative]

Of course such a place makes an excellent safe, so even if you don't worry about the gun police, you could still build one, although preferably one with a steel or other sturdy lid and a combo lock, to save cutting through the concrete every time you want to use your firearms. :)

Thanks a bunch. I'm thinking of cutting/digging a storage room for variuos purposes, including "hiding" my arsenal, should it ever become necessary. As much as I'd love to have a "nuke proof" chamber underground, I don't think I have the time or engineering capacity to handle it. =) Thanks for the tips.