Luck, vivid memories helped cops [Wichita Massacre]

The Wichita Eagle ^ | 10/20/02 | Ron Sylvester

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For detais about the murders see: The Wichita Massacre

Wichita Massacre Trial Threads:
Wichita to revisit brutal slayings as testimony begins - 10/07/2002
Deputy recalls moment of discovering bodies [Wichita Murders] Day 1 - 10/07/2002
WICHITA MASSACRE TRIAL UNDERWAY Day 1 - 10/08/2002
Legal wrangling opens Carr trial [Wichita Murders] Day 1 - 10/08/2002
Carr trial: Survivor describes sexual attacks by armed intruders [Wichita Massacre] Day 2 - 10/09/2002
Witchita Case of Black Racist Crime Survivor's testimony horrifies courtroom Day 2 - 10/10/2002
Woman testifies that Carrs killed her friends in a soccer field [Wichita Massacre Day 3] - 10/10/2002
Prosecutors Downplay Racial Element in Kansas Murder Trial - 10/11/2002
Reginald Carr had $996, victims' credit card, watch [Wichita Massacre Day 4] - 10/11/2002
Wichita Massacre Audio of 911 Call by Female Survivor with Court Room Video Footage From Day 1- 10/11/2002
Victims' belongings linked to defendant [Wichita Massacre Day 5] - 10/12/2002
Trial opens window into night of fear - 10/13/2002
Media Ignore Kansas Interracial Mass Murder - 10/14/2002
AP Finally Reports Wichita Trial... But Mentions "White Supremacist" Support - 10/14/2002
Nosey mom tips off cops (Wichita Massacre) Day 6 - 10/15/2002
'I was afraid,' witness says [Wichita Massacre Day 6] - 10/15/2002
ATM photos shown in Carr trial [Wichita Massacre Day 7] - 10/16/2002
Testimony on cellist slaying fills Carr trial [Wichita Massacre Day 8] - 10/17/2002
Survivor says she caught STD [Wichita Massacre Day 9] - 10/18/2002
Carr trial to focus on guns and DNA [Wichita Massacre Day 10] - 10/19/2002

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[RonKY]

What a great example of citizen cooperation with the police. If only all casses could go this way. Now, let's hope the jury takes care of business and sets these guys to cool.

[Billy_bob_bob]

I'm afraid that simple execution won't really be serving justice here. I'm in favor of bringing back torture for cases like this one. The Carr brothers should be skinned alive for their crimes. Putting them to sleep like a rabid dog just doesn't really serve justice, IMHO.

And yes, I would gladly volunteer to be the one to skin these bastards alive. In fact, I'd pay good money to be allowed to do it. It would really make my day.

[Rightly Biased]

Thanks for the Ping
When you're executed, "do you feel anything?"
In this case Lets hope so....
The article states that only the women were raped.Didn't I read before that the men got raped as well?Or is that being ignored now as well?

[Bogolyubski]

I think we best prepare ourselves for a bitter dissapointment here. The description of the jury does not look promising. There are a fair number of people there who "have no opinion" on the death penalty, and one of the two black jurors made a blatantly prejudicial remark about how unhappy he was about black males being in prison - which should have disqualified him. A number of black groups openly advocate their members getting on a jury to thwart any convictions for black perpetrators. Add to this the fact that Kansas hasn't executed anyone in nearly 30 years. In any state with a long hiatus in executions, there will be a 10-15 year series of appeals going all the way up to the supreme court for any death penalty case. It's also looking like a leftist will be the next governor of KS (Sebelius). The left, who virtually controls the legal profession in this country, has a long-standing goal of abolishing caital punishment. (This view is widely held even among allegedly "conservative" judges, prosecutors, and lawyers.) Realizing that the death penalty retains popularity among the general public, they are perfectly happy to have it on the books while no one is ever actually executed due to an endless series of appeals. They have the money and legal staff to appeal every single capital case to the supreme court, which is essentially what has happened in the past 20 years. The politicians (most of whom are lawyers also) will tell the public that it is costing far too much in tax dollars to fight these appeals (over a million per case) and push for commutation if not abolition of the death penalty. The only exceptions to this are a few states like Texas, where the appeals process was literally exhausted - though I notice that executions in TX have now practically come to a halt also thanks to the RINO governor in office. My guess is that the Carrs will receive life in prison if they are even convicted of 1st degree murder. I hope and pray I'm wrong, but the cultural PC rot runs deep - even in places like KS.

[666beast]

Let's suppose you're correct.

What type of protest should occur if these blatantly racist, brutal hate criminals do not recieve justice, that is, the stiffest and fullest penalty possible which is death?

I'm hoping that the racist hate criminals are put to death.

[Rightly Biased]

Thanks I reread the first story on the whole ordeal and there was no male rape reported.....

[republicman]

While only the females were raped by the Carrs, I've read accounts that said the Carrs forced the females and males to have sex with each other as well.

[carlo3b]

 I notice that executions in TX have now practically come to a halt also thanks to the RINO governor in office.
 

....A...er.....What in the Hell are you talkin about...Rino??   DUH...  What is your agenda??
 
Don't MESS with Texas!

[Slyfox]

If you read the last statement and then you read what they did to deserve the needle, well, it sure is interesting.

[Slyfox]

When you're executed, "do you feel anything?"

Too bad the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

[carlo3b]

I agree!! It's truly amazing,

""What's capital murder?"
 

Well, anyone convicted of capital murder, Otis told him, could get the death penalty.

"How's that done?"

Lethal injection.

Jonathan Carr pondered Otis' answer. Then, just before the nurse called him into the exam room, he asked:

When you're executed, "do you feel anything?""

It's as if they don't expect to get punished for anything they do...what a shame... disgusting.. Shoot the bastard!
 

[Bogolyubski]

Well, let's see. Gov. Perry (Bush's successor) willingly signed the hate crime law hatched by a bunch of leftists in the TX legislature. Now that this law is in place, it would appear that hate crimes are treated in TX with the same flaming hypocracy that they are elsewhere. For example, in Jasper, TX (remeber Jasper, TX?) this past January, four blacks dragged a white guy to death. No mention of a hate crime, of course, since some of us are more equal than others. While executions have taken place in TX under Perry's watch, the rate is much slower than before. So, while Perry is certainly better than the RAT alternative for governor, I would hesitate to call him a conservative. Not being from TX (but having relatives there), I don't know all the details of Perry's stands on various issues and, more importantly, all of his actions in office (other than those mentioned above). So, if you have info that points to some more conservative positions, by all means let us know.

[carlo3b]

I don't know all the details of Perry's stands on various issues and, more importantly, all of his actions in office

BINGO...I do, I'm watching these bastards all the time, and he's doing the best he can..There are still DemoRats around...in case anyone cares ....However you admission to not really knowing is refreshing on these threads. Nice writing, keep me updated on your future works...Thanks

[Bogolyubski]

Honestly there isn't much we can do apart from making sure we vote for candidates who will appoint and/or confirm judges who will uphold the law. Try and stay informed about the stands and actions various politicians take and tell your friends and relatives. This is why all those races for state legislature, governor, the US House and Senate really do matter. What good is it to vote for a politician who "brings home the bacon" (i.e. pork) for your local district if they are voting to approve judges who advocate letting criminals off with minimal sentences?

[Bogolyubski]

Glad to know Perry is basically OK. I gather from your post that he's up against a RAT controlled legislature and has his hands tied somewhat. I withdraw the charge of RINO.

[Palladin]

Are you Bugliosi's Polish cousin?