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The Conservative Mind: Burke & The Politics of Prescription (An Excerpt)
The Conservative Mind From Burke To Eliot | 1953 | Russell Kirk

Posted on 10/17/2002 6:48:21 PM PDT by William McKinley

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prescription
1 a : the establishment of a claim of title to something under common law usually by use and enjoyment for a period fixed by statute b : the right or title acquired under common law by such possession
2 : the process of making claim to something by long use and enjoyment
3 : the action of laying down authoritative rules or directions
4 a : a written direction for a therapeutic or corrective agent; specifically : one for the preparation and use of a medicine b : a prescribed medicine c : something like a doctor's prescription 5 a : ancient or long continued custom b : a claim founded upon ancient custom or long continued use
6 : something prescribed as a rule


I am in the process of reading The Conservative Mind, and think that as I find particular passages of interest or relevance I will take a moment to type them in and share them.

1 posted on 10/17/2002 6:48:22 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
You are reading the best book on conservatism ever written. Bar none. Had I quoted every passage I found stunningly relevant, this site would not have the bandwidth to service it.

Russell Kirk is without a doubt the most articulate, ideologically pure conservative I've read. The Conservative Mind should be second only to the Bible for our troops on the Right.

2 posted on 10/17/2002 7:16:22 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: William McKinley
To Burke's analysis of revolutionary theories, philosophical conservatism owes its being.

He, much more than Jefferson or any of the American founders, is our philosophical father. To those who claim conservatism started with Goldwater, I say "Bosh!" Read Kirk and you'll know the truth.

Goldwater stood on the shoulders of giants.

3 posted on 10/17/2002 7:19:34 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack
Maybe by presenting excerpts, we can tease more people into deciding to give it a read.
4 posted on 10/17/2002 7:22:11 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
Ah, if only it were so. You'll find that FReepers are, for the most part, an unphilosophical lot. There was a salon of thinkers and dreamers at one time, but most have moved on to other venues.

Nevertheless, I salute your noble project.

5 posted on 10/17/2002 7:33:43 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack
I wholeheartedly disagree. I think there is a nice mixture of conservative minds here. Some like to wax philosophically, some like to play in the mud, some like to focus on the politics.

The people I have seen move on were merely those grew frustrated in that the could not make more people think like them and let their own failure drive them away or to self-Freeper-immolation.

6 posted on 10/17/2002 7:53:12 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: IronJack
those who grew frustrated in that they could not
7 posted on 10/17/2002 7:54:45 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: IronJack
Regular Russell Kirk advocate for many years reporting in!

This Principle of Prescription is one of the most important things that Kirk stesses throughout his life. In '92 he is still stressing it in the Politics of Prudence:

"Third, conservatives believe in what may be called the principle of prescription ["that is, of things established by immemorial usage, so that the mind of man runneth not to the contrary"]. Conservatives sense that modern people are dwarfs on the shoulders of giants, able to see farther than their ancestors only because of the great stature of those who have preceded us in time."
It took me some time before I began to appreciate what he was driving at by its prominance.

Presciption was NOT abstract rights!
Prescription IS not abstract rights.

Now why did he say that because from his essays condemning the Woodrow Wilsonian "human rights" clap-trap, we know that he sees rights as adhering only to individuals...almost libertarian (he would dred that) in his rigor.

He and Burke condemned the metaphysical construct. The Rationalist, the nominalist. Seeing the real foundation of society and even the begining of government in Prescriptive right to property, he was loath to subject it to philosophical underpinnings when it was the underpinning of all of civilization and not to be weighted and measured against other "rights",P> Sowell, in A Conflict of Visions explains as well how those of the Constrained Vision see rights as they find them capable of being exercised in a free society, not as abstracts seperated from Order.

Hayek, as well, condemned the Totalitarian Rationalist Democracies that set up Logical and Philisophical schemes to replace the steady, evolutionary order of the ages.

Old Whigs, All!

8 posted on 10/17/2002 7:56:54 PM PDT by KC Burke
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To: IronJack
Russell Kirk is without a doubt the most articulate, ideologically pure conservative I've read. The Conservative Mind should be second only to the Bible for our troops on the Right.

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: )

9 posted on 10/17/2002 8:03:51 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis
More of the Troops arrive.
10 posted on 10/17/2002 8:07:07 PM PDT by KC Burke
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^
11 posted on 10/17/2002 8:11:14 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox
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To: Dumb_Ox
And along with the troops, the heavy Oxen pulling the artillary.
12 posted on 10/17/2002 8:15:12 PM PDT by KC Burke
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To: KC Burke
I have always looked at it in this way. One of the gifts our Creator has given us is our ability to think and be rational. And a second gift our Creator has given us is the experience we can glean from our predecessors.

If I turn my back on my own rationality and my own judgement, my own ability to weigh the facts and the reasons, and subjugate it to a blind adherence to some ideology, then I am doing nothing but turning my back on both of these gifts. The former because an ideology does not require thought but acceptance, the latter because an ideology cannot think and does not learn from the experiences of life.

Yet despite a spurning of ideology, I find that consistency is easy to attain for the most part, for while there may not be a true conservative ideology, there is absolutely a conservative mindset or way of thinking.

13 posted on 10/17/2002 8:22:16 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: KC Burke
Hi KC!

I've met his wife, Anette Kirke, dined in his house, Piety Hill they call it, saw his official certificate noting his membership in the Count Dracula Society, but I confess I haven't read this book. I did read Enemies of Permanent Things.

14 posted on 10/17/2002 8:23:02 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: Dumb_Ox
Dumb_Ox!

You silence is deafening.
15 posted on 10/17/2002 8:24:04 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: KC Burke
Conservatives sense that modern people are dwarfs on the shoulders of giants

Now where have I seen that metaphor exercised very recently ...?

Good to see ya, KC.

16 posted on 10/17/2002 8:26:02 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: William McKinley
Have you picked up a copy of ... On Two Wings: Humble Faith and Common Sense at the American Founding by Michael Novak? Do so when you can.
17 posted on 10/17/2002 8:27:46 PM PDT by KC Burke
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To: cornelis
Cornelis: your name came immediately to mind when I saw this philosophical thread.
18 posted on 10/17/2002 8:27:55 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: William McKinley
Kirk is rather superficial on Burke. I just finished rereading Burleigh Wilkins' The Problem of Burke's Political Philosophy and commend that to you.

It's true, I think, that most Freepers are not intellectuals and most discussions here rarely involve the deep consideration of ideas anymore. We are for the most part reliably conservative, but differ very widely in our definitions of conservative, ranging from libertarians and that ilk to ultramontagne religious conservatives who are probably properly regarded as reactionaries in that the social order they would be most comfortable with would a be a theocracy in which the Founders would not be at home.

19 posted on 10/17/2002 8:29:04 PM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: KC Burke
No I have not, but I will do so.
20 posted on 10/17/2002 8:30:29 PM PDT by William McKinley
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