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1 posted on 10/16/2002 4:42:49 PM PDT by Brytani
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To: Brytani
More of Clinton's incompetence and neglect of our National Security coming back to haunt us. I believe we are just seeing the tip of the icegerg when it comes to Clinton's 8 years of being asleep at the wheel

Another chapter of Bill Clintons Legacy

31 posted on 10/16/2002 5:04:27 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Brytani
Check this out, found on S. Korean news site...

U.S. Finds New Nuclear Facilities in North Korea


   Seoul, Oct. 17 (Yonhap) -- The United States has discovered a  new nuclear facility in North Korea and will soon announce its  findings, an official here said Thursday.

   The South Korean government will also make an announcement on  the issue.

LINK

33 posted on 10/16/2002 5:07:37 PM PDT by RCW2001
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To: Brytani
In the end, we will be lucky if this country survives the 8 year 'diversion into perversion' that was the Clinton administration. I think we are only just beginning to see the results of his wholesale sellout of our interests.
34 posted on 10/16/2002 5:10:57 PM PDT by Route66
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>>>North Korea Admits Nuclear Weapons Program<<<

That's no secret.

Afghanistan, Iraq, North Korea.....

37 posted on 10/16/2002 5:12:55 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Brytani
Why is everyone assuming that N. Korea is telling the truth?
38 posted on 10/16/2002 5:13:21 PM PDT by fatguy
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To: Brytani
Duh.
40 posted on 10/16/2002 5:14:04 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: Brytani
When Billidiot signed that anti-nuke treaty I knew it was worthless. Mad Maddie wanted to "level the nuclear playing field" at the time--- what a moron! The Felon even promised the commies help with their reactors! Unbloodybelieveable! So much for his claims that he did everything he could against terrorists while in office. He was a traitor then and is one now!

But North Korea is part of the "Axis of Evil" and are next on the list to get some military intervention aren't they (maybe??--Who knows? I'm really confused about the enemies list since Syria, Palestine, Iran and Pakistan are all harboring, training and and helping terrorists any way they can).

My humble suggestion for North Korea? NUKE 'EM NOW! I'm still truly pissed about the Korean War and my two school buddies that are buried there and two more ex-Marine friends minus legs they left in that bloody place.

45 posted on 10/16/2002 5:23:22 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Brytani
Bump for ominous reference...
48 posted on 10/16/2002 5:26:07 PM PDT by freeasinbeer
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To: Brytani
NSA already knew-who cares?
57 posted on 10/16/2002 5:37:11 PM PDT by 1234
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Reuters has it. Note the opening:

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WASHINGTON, Oct 15 - In a stunning development that opens up the possibility of a new crisis in Asia, North Korea, confronted with U.S. "evidence," has acknowledged it is operating a secret nuclear weapons program in violation of a 1994 agreement, senior U.S. officials said on Wednesday.

One official told Reuters that the Bush administration believed North Korea's activities had "effectively nullified the 1994 Agreed Framework," a deal under which the reclusive Communist state promised to freeze its nuclear arms program.

But the officials said the administration was consulting with Congress and allies and had made no decision on the next steps in its relations with North Korea, which has made clear it wants more cooperation with the international community.

President George W. Bush and his administration entered office far more skeptical of Pyongyang than their predecessors in President Bill Clinton's administration.

Bush has included North Korea with Iran and Iraq in what he termed an "axis of evil" of states developing weapons of mass destruction and backing international terrorism.

But while some hard-liners on Bush's team have long looked for ways to scuttle the 1994 accord, analysts said he may be forced to find a way to keep talking to Pyongyang.

Allies Japan and South Korea have been much more willing to work with North Korea.

U.S. officials said that on a recent trip to Pyongyang, Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly presented the North Koreans with documentation about the nuclear activities.

At first the North Koreans balked but eventually "they acknowledged they had a secret nuclear weapons program involving enriched uranium," one official said.

"By acknowledging that, the agreed framework was essentially nullified," he said.

Officials said they could not provide much detail without compromising intelligence sources and methods but once said, "Clearly it's a program that would have provided material that could have been used in nuclear weapons."

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Thanks again, Bill!

68 posted on 10/16/2002 5:42:26 PM PDT by GeneD
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Now we know why GWB had a sense of urgency about a missile defense system and included the PRK in the axis of evil. Albright played the useful idiot during her visit there. We will be paying for the Clinton screwups in foreign policy for decades. Hopefully, the payment will not be in additional American lives beyond what we have suffered throughout the 90s and 9/11 and its follow-up. The Clinton administration was a total disaster for the United States.
89 posted on 10/16/2002 6:16:29 PM PDT by kabar
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"This breaks a treaty signed with the Clinton Administration, in exchange for N. Korea not having nuclear weapons, the US agreed to build non-lethal nuclear plants for them."

Any idiot with the I.Q. above that of a tomato knew that this would happen.

What does that make Clinton?

[HINT: Either an idiot with an I.Q. below that of a tomato...........or an outright Communist who is intent on arming our adversaries. It is left to the reader to decide.]

93 posted on 10/16/2002 6:21:26 PM PDT by RightOnline
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This is big. Strategic competition is shaping up in ways I never thought of before. The US is shifting its focus to Asia, as promised. Its about time.

First the liberal China is great crowd just got slammed. They are the same people as the North Korea ain't so bad crowd.

China is directly implicated.

There is a lot of meat here.

Clinton's policies and his policy makers SUCK. Now we can say it is a proven fact, not just a subjective judgement.

97 posted on 10/16/2002 6:32:36 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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--I thought this story from March might be relevent here)

North Korea hiding nukes in underground bunkers



Special to World Tribune.com
GEOSTRATEGY-DIRECT
Thursday, March 28, 2002

North Korea continues to conceal nuclear weapons and fissile material, U.S. officials said.

North Korean nuclear facility at Yongbyon, north of Pyongyang. [Click here to zoom] For other images of this facility, see Institute for Science and International Security




The Bush administration has obtained information indicating that North Korea possesses at least three nuclear bombs as well as an undetermined amount of fissile material. The officials said the material is being stored in underground bunkers kept off-limits to both the United States or the International Atomic Energy Agency.
North Korea, the officials said, has refused to allow the IAEA to conduct a full inspection of the nuclear facility at Yongbyon north of Pyongyang. The Kim Jong Il regime may have used Yongbyon and other facilities for tests on the weaponization of long-range missiles capable of reaching the United States.
The officials said the administration has decided not to certify that North Korea has complied with a 1994 accord with the Clinton administration in which Pyongyang pledged to suspend its nuclear weapons program. The agreement led to a U.S. promise to supply North Korea with two nuclear power reactors in a $4.6 billion project.
The Bush administration also wants to link the nuclear power project to an end to North Korean missile exports which have continued. Pyongyang is regarded as the leading missile exporter to the Middle East, including such clients as Egypt, Iran, Libya and Syria, according to reports from Middle East Newsline.
Meanwhile, Iran is preparing to accept delivery of North Korean gunboats, which will be converted into guided-missile naval vessels.
U.S. intelligence sources said the boats could arrive on an Iranian freighter within the next week. They said the United States is monitoring the shipment of the gunboats from North Korea to the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas.
The Washington Times reported that the Iranian freighter, Meead, obtained the gunboats from the North Korean port of Nampo after stopping in the Chinese port of Tianjin in late February.
North Korea manufactures several model fast attack vessels. They include the SO-1 and the Sinpo.
The North Korean shipment to Iran is said to be at least the second this year from East Asia to Teheran. In January, China delivered naval air defense missiles to Iran. The missiles were said to have a range of nearly 13 kilometers.
The U.S. sources said Iran has been bolstering its navy to counter the prospect of an expanded U.S. presence in the Persian Gulf. The sources said that despite the war in Afghanistan, which borders Iran, Teheran still has the power to block oil exports from the Persian Gulf.
Teheran is believed to have deployed Chinese guided-missile patrol boats equipped with anti-ship missiles as well as two Russian Kilo-class diesel submarines. Iran has also produced mini-submarines for reconnaissance and sabotage missions.
Over the weekend, Iranian military commanders again warned that Teheran would confront any U.S. attack. The commanders said Iran has developed a range of unspecified weapons.
"We are not for war, but we will stand up against the enemy should the need arise," Iranian naval chief Brig. Gen. Morteza Saffari told senior commanders



99 posted on 10/16/2002 6:34:02 PM PDT by fiftymegaton
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North Korea has admitted to the United States that they have a secret nuclear weapons program.

Are they trying to call our bluff? Their idea in admitting this may be that, once it's public, if we do nothing about it, it becomes a fait accompli.

108 posted on 10/16/2002 6:44:30 PM PDT by Mitchell
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AP Update -

U.S. Source: N. Korea Says Has Nukes


Yahoo News ^ | 10/16/02 | George Gedda - AP

Posted on 10/16/2002 6:53 PM Pacific by NormsRevenge

U.S. Source: N. Korea Says Has Nukes
Wed Oct 16, 7:51 PM ET

By GEORGE GEDDA, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - North Korea (news - web sites) has told the United States it has a secret nuclear weapons program in violation of an agreement signed with the Clinton administration, a senior administration official said Wednesday night.

North Korea also told U.S. diplomats it no longer beholden to the anti-nuclear agreement, said the official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The disclosure, which stunned senior administration officials, is certain to chill U.S.-North Korean relations. President Bush (news - web sites) had labeled the country part of the "axis of evil" — along with Iraq and Iran — but hopes were raised that the reclusive nation wanted to build international ties when Bush sent Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly to Pyongyang for security talks.

Kelly visited North Korea on Oct. 3-5 and demanded that the communist state address global concerns about its nuclear and other weapons programs.

In response, the Pyongyang government accused Bush's special envoy of making "threatening remarks." The United States refused all comment on the dicussions,

Under a 1994 agreement with the United States, North Korea promised to give up its nuclear weapons program, and it promised to allow inspections to verify that it did not have the material needed to construct such weapons.

But it has yet to allow the inspections, drawing criticism from the Bush administration.

The source said Kelly also raised with North Korea evidence that North Korea may have a uranimum-enrichment program. The program, which the United States believes would only be used to develop a nuclear bomb, began under the Clinton administration, according to the official.

Surprisingly, North Korea confirmed the allegation.

The administration has not decided how to respond. "We're going to keep talking," the official said.

After months of tension with South Korea (news - web sites), the North resumed high-level talks in August that restarted stalled reconciliation efforts on the Korean peninsula — divided by the most heavily armed border in the world.

The Koreas were divided after World War II and remained that way at the end of the inconclusive Korean War from 1950-53. About 37,000 U.S. troops are stationed in South Korea as a deterrent against the North.




119 posted on 10/16/2002 7:00:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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F**k! And here Bubba was telling us all North Korea would never ever in a million years get weapons of mass murder. And the Bush Administration stupidly continued its predecessor's appeasement policies towards the Commies. Well there's a lesson in all, eh? Its like Sept. 11 only without a literal atom bomb going off in an American city. The North Koreans had us buffaloed over a cliff - and they ARE part of the Axis Of Evil.
123 posted on 10/16/2002 7:03:28 PM PDT by goldstategop
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Seems to me Dubya took some heat over that Axis of Evil remark by the libs because Clinton has supposedly fixed the situation with N. Korea.
136 posted on 10/16/2002 7:18:51 PM PDT by plain talk
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The United States has very little power to stop an abject traitor once he becomes President. The whole country is at risk, fox in the henhouse..... the half has not been told... and probably never will. Nobody even had time to trace all the Federal Goverment Workers his appointees put in or raised up a few noches in pay scale to management.

Do I have to say who I'm talking about....

169 posted on 10/16/2002 7:58:45 PM PDT by hosepipe
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Sorry about the delay. Stepped out for a while. It will take me a few minutes to write what I want to say.
174 posted on 10/16/2002 8:04:50 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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