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NEWSFLASH: Another shooting, approx. 9 AM, this time near Fredericksburg
The Free Lance-Star ^ | now | Jim Lakely

Posted on 10/11/2002 6:54:58 AM PDT by seamus

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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
The black-white alternation might suggest two competing teams, like black/white in chess or black/red in checkers.
1,801 posted on 10/11/2002 7:22:02 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: John Jamieson
It has been raining all day here and the traffic has been terrible. Unfortunately it sounds like an just a plain old accident that wound being serious and fatal.
1,802 posted on 10/11/2002 7:27:29 PM PDT by Boiler Plate
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To: Boiler Plate
I hope so. I'd hate to think Soccer Moms are on the list, but they maybe.
1,804 posted on 10/11/2002 7:33:00 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: TexVet
I'll take #1. AR15 is the right round.... NATO standard.
1,805 posted on 10/11/2002 7:34:23 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: txculprit
The black-white alternation might suggest two competing teams, like black/white in chess or black/red in checkers.

Could be. Officials are suggesting there could be several vehicles and snipers involved. Could it also be some satanistic initiation rite? After all, the Tarot card, Michael, the "I am God", the B&W pattern etc... Lots of symbolisms but we might just be the ones stretching it a little too far, LOL!

1,806 posted on 10/11/2002 7:35:34 PM PDT by Elenya
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To: chance33_98
Back in another era - the DITHF days - somebody posted a .gif of a .357 Magnum here, and said "Help me out, folks! If you see this thing misbehaving, let me know!" I once saw a daft reporterette on the tube say "How are we going to *rein in* all these assault weapons that are *feuling* the drug wars!" Disgusting...
1,807 posted on 10/11/2002 7:42:14 PM PDT by 185JHP
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To: Sacajaweau
See post 885
1,808 posted on 10/11/2002 7:49:21 PM PDT by md2576
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To: aristeides
Only one state executes more people than VA. And there are more in TX that need it.
1,809 posted on 10/11/2002 7:54:24 PM PDT by 185JHP
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
B&W

Traditional slang for cop cars?

1,810 posted on 10/11/2002 7:56:01 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
Perhaps one team drives a mini van and the other team drives an astro van. One team kills whites whlie the other kills blacks. Sounds more and more like an airsoft player by the minute! Can't they search a database of the airsoft sniper rifle owners to check. It's available on airsoftplayers.com
1,811 posted on 10/11/2002 7:57:19 PM PDT by md2576
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To: John Jamieson
There doesn't seem to be any favorites so far. We are all on the list.
1,812 posted on 10/11/2002 7:59:15 PM PDT by Boiler Plate
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To: 185JHP
"the DITHF days"

those were the days my friends....those were the days

1,813 posted on 10/11/2002 8:03:12 PM PDT by cherry
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To: md2576
That and here, too.

Also, in Tarot, there are Kings, Queens, Knaves, Pages.. differentiated age groups. Additionally, the airsoftwierdos seem very focused on one-shot kills.

As far as black/white, if there are two contestants/teams from the airsoftplayers group, they've likely long ago given up internet communications and might only know when it's their turn based on skin color of the last victim.

The Indian guy throws the chess idea off, but many Indians are as dark as black people.

Where can the stats on each killing be found, expeditiously?

1,814 posted on 10/11/2002 8:12:10 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: TexVet; John Jamieson
"(What round does the AK47 use, anyway?)"

The round in use here is the .223 (.223 inches US)--also referenced 5.56 Nato (5.56 mm). Small diameter round with a large cartridge--lots of velocity. Standard round for the M16 also known as the AR15; also fired in Mini-14 which is an easier configuration to use than either the AR15 or M16; also somewhere on this thread is another bolt action weapon chambered for use with this round which looks like it would make a very good sniper weapon to shoot.

AK47 and the M-14 use a 7.62 mm round--the Sovs have a little different kind of cartridge but I believe their round and our round interchange. However there are also standard issue AK47's that are chambered for use with the 5.56mm NATO round.

TO CHANGE SUBJECTS: Why do we have so much trouble with this event--it is exactly precisely the operation depicted in an Al Quada training manual we captured and which also appears in their training video which we also captured--you set up a shooter in the back of a small truck--in the training video, a pickup with a canopy; in the manual a small van. In the back door of the canopy or the van, you have a small custom folding window cutout which drops down to open the view for the shooter.

The driver acts as both spotter and driver; the shooter is in the back on a mattress which raises his level and the tripod level above the back of the tailgate of the pickup or the van. The driver sets up the shot; and then drives off at a slow normal pace merging with traffic. The escape route is planned to avoid freeways and other highways that can be shut down. If the range to target at the time of shooting is two or three hundred yards, no one around the target is going to even hear the shot much less identify where it came from.

Today, the shooter was too close and people around the target heard the shot. It is not clear from witness testimony whether or not any witness really identified the shooter vehicle--looks to me like somebody in a white van got scared that he was being shot at and took evasive action which was misunderstood; no one knows for sure what the shooter vehicle really looked like.

Why are they shooting only at the DC, Maryland, Virgina area? Because they don't want to give real evidence that it is the Moslems doing it. Osama went a long time before admitting he was involved in the September 11 attack for the same reason. They are concerned about what we would do in response. Although I am not sure why. Even if we armed everyone in America, I don't know what we could do to counterattack on the spot. We might nuke Mecca; we might bulldoze the Temple Mount; maybe that is the counteraction they are concerned about.

When we saw the training manual depiction of this operation, we thought this would be difficult to devise a tactic to respond with--looks to me as though the enemy can use this more or less at will. Sooner or later they will have casualties but the fact that we catch one or two of them will not put them out of business.

1,815 posted on 10/11/2002 8:13:19 PM PDT by David
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To: David
WJLA TV in Washington DC just reported a woman called police tonight after seeing an armed gunman 'in the woods' near Lakeforest Mall in Gaithersburg, MD.
1,816 posted on 10/11/2002 8:18:42 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: valleygal
How on earth did I come up with such a question? Let's look what you said:

"We're asking everyone who lives in metro area or has family in area to go to our prayer thread and sign on so we can pray for you."

".............. go to our prayer thread .............so we can pray for you."

The question was simple, what is so magical about your prayer thread. Are those that don't have access to the internet or Free Republic or are otherwise not aware of your prayer thread on their own? Why don't you just say a blanket prayer for everyone in the area? But now, what your saying is that those that don't have access to your thread are covered by your prayers but Freepers from the area will have to go to your thread to be covered? Is there a collection plate involved in this somewhere?

It's just that this sounds like something out of the Andy Griffith Show or a Ray Stevens song, that's all.

1,817 posted on 10/11/2002 8:19:26 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: tracer
If the sniper has a 'comfort zone', connecting the points on the map from Aspen Hill, Bowie, Fredicksburg and Manassas creates a rectangle with Woodbridge/Dale City nearly in the center, which is also between Fort Belvior and Quantico.
1,818 posted on 10/11/2002 8:19:39 PM PDT by sell_propaganda
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To: txculprit
Not sure, would have to look.
1,819 posted on 10/11/2002 8:23:20 PM PDT by md2576
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To: txculprit
It just seems that these killing come really soon after a sniperstory was posted at the airsoftplayers.com website that talked of the sniper and death tarot card. I told police and the story was gone in less than 15 hours. Sounds Wierd to me. There's plenty of airsoft places in MD and surrounding that they could check for white vans. Or ask questions of the course owners.
1,820 posted on 10/11/2002 8:26:20 PM PDT by md2576
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