Teachers, computers square off: Don't like computers being teachers, a fun read

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[chance33_98]

Nonnewaug Teachers' Association, filed a petition Thursday alleging STEP "required the certified teacher to become a nominal ‘teacher of record' to sign off on a student's course of study taught by non-certified computer software." State law, however, says only that people hired to teach must be certified; it does not mention computer programs,

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[IronJack]

"These at-risk students are not getting the education they deserve," said Rosemary Coyle, president of the 2,500-member Connecticut Education Association.

"They run the very real danger of actually learning something useful, instead of a hodge-podge of liberal shibboleths and the standard left-wing catechism. Besides, computers could put us deadbeats out of work. We must nip this in the bud before the public gets wise to the scam we've been working for half a century now."

[Maximum Leader]

Wow, you know this is very interesting.

I didn't even occur to me until right now, you could have the entire high school curriculum on CD-ROMS or online (well, I suppose you'd still have to dissect the frog in real time). This would be a boon for homeschoolers or for high schools where the students sat at terminals and learned at their own pace (some kids would get out in 2 years and I guess some would get out in 6).

This issue shows that the teacher's union only cares about whats best for the students when it means more money for the teachers.

[dennisw]

The computers don't try to indoctrinate the kids with leftist ideas. A distinct plus.

[summer]

I know of a school district here in FL that has very successfully utilized computers for teaching students at risk of dropping out.

These students, and I have met some of them, did not have the option of homeschooling, but they hate the school environment with its emphasis on social cliques and popularity and the like.

At their own pace, they do the work assigned by the computer, they ask the computer questions and always get an answer, they do not feel the computer discriminates against them in any way (as they often felt hated by their teachers for whatever reasons), and, best of all, they usually hold paying jobs while they continue with this program - so they have interaction with people, but they are now earning money, which is something they hadn't thought about doing as a potential high school drop out.

I am all for computers reaching these kids and wqhoever else prefers a computer to a teacher for whatever reason. There is certainly no shortage of the kind of kids I have described above, who are turning around their lives, verses these same type of alienated kids who took a very different way out at Columbine High School.

[Always Right]

"This is technology education gone haywire. These at-risk students are not getting the education they deserve," said Rosemary Coyle, president of the 2,500-member Connecticut Education Association.

And that differs from the current situation how?

[summer]

BTW, my comment is not intended to imply homeschooling kids are alienated, as I do not believe that is the result if t he student's parents provide for certain activities in the community for the kids.

However, these at-risk kids I described, and met, did feel that way while in school. And, the Columbine killers certainly felt alienated as well.

[Jakarta ex-pat]

"The classroom is changing, and we need to find ways to improve instruction and student experience and reach everyone the best way we can,"

How awful that twerps like this are in charge.

"A paraprofessional, or teacher's aide, keeps order in the room while a certified teacher is supposed to review the students' work."

paraprofessional

keeps order in the room while a certified teacher is supposed to review the students' work."

The certified "teacher" used to do that.

Teachers without authority are like most rich Newbies.

As Useless as tits on a bull.

[ladylib]

Some kids don't want to interact with adults. They do better with computers. Some adults don't want to be bothered either. Years ago, I took a steno course using a computer and I much preferred it to interacting with a teacher.

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[ladylib]

There is a curriculum, Robbins, I believe, that is all on CD-Rom. Students learn at their own pace.

I remember my teachers as being "by the book," having absolutely no interest in making a subject interesting. I figured back then, Who needs them? I could read a history text and answer the questions at the end of the chapter without their help. They were duds in math courses too.

Kids are lucky today. They have many options.

Sometimes teachers over-value themselves.

[ladylib]

There are computer-generated disection programs for those who don't want to disect an animal, you know, PETA folks.

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[EdReform]

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[chance33_98]

Ping, thought you might find this of some interest.

[Maximum Leader]

Well now that we have frog dissection issue cleared up, I guess there's no reason not to go to a computer-based curriculum.
:o)

I wonder if any schools (no doubt private; if a public school had tried, we'd have read about the teacher riots) have gone this route. There must be a huge cost savings and I can't imagine the test scores being lower

[ladylib]

Kids in alternative public schools for troublemakers use computer-generated courses. If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for anyone else who might want it.

[TruthConquers]

Ping!

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[giznort]

Here in Wisconsin, there's a whole lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth over budget overruns and $$$ shortages for schools and school programs. Teachers'unions are very powerful and they have us by the short hairs. A touchy subject is their health insurance which they get totally paid for by the taxpayers, whereas regular real people have copays and increased rates. 85% of the school budget is spent on salaries and benefits.

Many school districts are looking at creative ways in which to contain costs. This would be great. Effective and cheaper. This may be the way out of this great quagmire.