Another DC-area sniper-style shooting

Wife (FReeper nina0113) | October 4, 2002 | Steve0113

[xm177e2]

M = Model? Make? Mark?

[tomkat]

she gonna make it = this is a copycat.

$0.02

[ET(end tyranny)]

Your guess is as good as mine. M1= Military 1st weapon of choice.... LOL

[mamelukesabre]

Where's the recoil spring?????

Is that an AR?

[xm177e2]

Link:

The M1-A1 folding stock carbine was a weapon unique to the paratroops in WW2. Manufactured by the Inland Arms division of General Motors, this weapon utilized a small, specially designed .30 caliber bullet which was considered a compromise between a pistol and a rifle. The side-folding stock of tubular metal has a leather cheek plate on the left side. Early models were made without a bayonet lug. The photo above shows an M1-A1 with stock extended and an unusual adaptation to fit a sling just behind the muzzle. Being as this photo was taken in spring, 1944 before Normandy, it is interesting to note that Captain Sammie N. Homan of F/501, is wearing an M43 field jacket, which were not generally issued until the Market Garden operation. The photo was made at Imber range near Torquay, England on live ammo firing practice. The carbines, which were usually issued to officers and men assigned to crew-served weapons like M.G.s and mortars, were the subject of many complaints. They lacked knockdown power, even at short range, and were frequently discarded in disgust. Photo courtesy Sammie N. Homan

[mamelukesabre]

military

[GirlShortstop]

Sounds like a less skilled shooter.

Maybe because its a different vehicle (truck ditched)?

[tomkat]

make that 'she's', of course ...

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[r9etb]

WHAT on EARTH does "normal people" mean??

Don't read so much into it. I merely meant people like you or me, becoming targets by going to the store, or whatever. Like these cases -- normal people doing normal stuff.

[null and void]

I'm a bit inconsistent I admit. I refrain from spelling G-d yet I use the the vernacular for excrement on some threads if I'm angry.

Sorry...

Sorry? Why? Welcome to the human race....

[GirlShortstop]

need more beer


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[tomkat]

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[tortoise]

Bullet weight can vary from 40-70 grains and be either full metal jacket, hollow point, soft point or steel tipped penetrating round as the current NATO spec SS-109 bulleted round is.

Make that 40-90 grains for .223. The 90gr. .223 will stay supersonic past 1,000 yards out of 20" barrel. It comes out of the barrel a tad slow, but doesn't bleed any of its velocity either due to the obscene ballistic coefficient.

[OldBlondBabe]

Yes, Michaels is an arts & crafts store. JoAnn's sells fabric.

[tortoise]

What's the range on that handheld weapon?? They were talking about a silencer..

With a silencer, you are limited to about 200 yards, even with a nice rig like a .300 Whisper AR-15 conversion. Sure, you could go a bit longer in theory, but the bullet is moving mighty slow to begin with. Lots of oomph, but not much velocity. Not so hot on the penetration side.

[xm177e2]

But a suppressor wouldn't limit the range at all. That would prevent noise from the expansion of the gasses (the flames that normally come out of the muzzle), but the bullet would still go supersonic and make a little sonic boom.

The advantage of using a suppressor over a silencer is that full-power ammo can be used, giving the gunman the full range and power of the rifle. The sonic boom created by the bullet isn't as loud as the muzzle blast, and it doesn't give away the position of the shooter. The bullet makes the sound as it flies, so the direction of the noise would actually be the bullet itself. This makes the getaway a lot easier, people are less likely to look in your direction after the shot is fired.

[Shooter 2.5]

No idea.

[mystery-ak]

I've been thinking about your statement *truck ditched*....I don't know....we do know he is moving around...I think he may still be in the same vehicle...only because the first day he started his rampage he shot and killed 5 people...now he's not so daring...one last night and one today.....he's running and not taking as many chances.....he picked a good choice to *hide in plain sight*....

[mamelukesabre]

Yeah.

I was daydreaming the other day and figured the ideal long range subsonic sniper bullet would be something like a long, huge 50 cal slug....Say about 5000 grains or more....it would resemble a crossbow bolt, only made out of lead.

[FreeTheHostages]

no. TV is right to have profilers on, this is a serial killer and so by def'n this crime is not "normal"