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Call it the Wrong Stuff
Business Week | Stan Crock

Posted on 10/04/2002 6:26:50 AM PDT by meowmeow

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Come on, this isn't rocket science...oh wait, yes it is.
1 posted on 10/04/2002 6:26:50 AM PDT by meowmeow
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I don't suppose Clinton selling all of our space technology to the Chinese had anything to do with it?
2 posted on 10/04/2002 6:30:44 AM PDT by 2banana
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To: meowmeow; Brett66
Space bump for your ping list.
3 posted on 10/04/2002 7:05:18 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: meowmeow
Two words ... "new math".
4 posted on 10/04/2002 7:11:56 AM PDT by The Duke
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Airplane maker Boeing Co. (BA) said on Friday it would take a non-cash charge of about $250 million in the third quarter due to pressure on airline credit ratings and valuations on older aircraft.

The charge is expected to cut third-quarter net earning by about $158 million, or 20 cents per share, Boeing said in a statement.

Analysts were expecting Boeing to earn between 58 cents per share and 74 cents per share, with a mean estimate of 66 cents a share, according to research firm Thomson First Call. Ouch!

5 posted on 10/04/2002 7:12:16 AM PDT by One_Upmanship
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To: meowmeow
Congress is concerned--and rightly so. To address the atrophy, it recently set up a panel that recommended tax credits for companies that provide training and apprenticeships in certain fields. And there's a bill to help universities raise enrollment in math and science courses.

The help wanted pages are chock full of opportunities for those in sales and healthcare. And the economic and regulatory policies of the luddist Bush administration are killing the tech sector. Why would any intelligent person, who wants to maximize their economic opportunities, bust their ass learning something hard like math and science?

6 posted on 10/04/2002 8:21:16 AM PDT by Moonman62
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To: RightWhale; anymouse; RadioAstronomer; NonZeroSum; jimkress; discostu; The_Victor; Centurion2000; ..
Hopefully the Atlas V & Delta IV can provide better reliability.
7 posted on 10/04/2002 3:32:59 PM PDT by Brett66
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The commercial launch industry is depressed and has been so for a couple of years. Eventually the commsats will have to be replaced one at a time or system by system, but that wouldn't be anytime soon.

Rockets by their nature have the possibility of catastrophic failure. It will always be so and it is factored into the cost.

It would be great to have an order of magnitude increase in performance that drives the cost down by an order of magnitude. Do this twice and everybody will have a space winnebago in the driveway for weekends on the moon. Until then it's incremental improvements such as businesses are familiar with -- gradual improvement.

8 posted on 10/04/2002 3:57:34 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: meowmeow
Some experts now question whether the space sector will ever duplicate its stellar performance in the post-Sputnik era . . .

We'd better find a way to do it; it's as important as ever.

For some satellite fun, click here. Two windows will open. One of them will show you almost every satellite in orbit, real time. Watch the specks for a few seconds: They're moving.

It's fun to play around with the options. You can drag the frame around, zoom in, speed up the action, click on individual satellites to see what they are, whether they are in geo-stationary orbit, polar orbit, etc., etc.

9 posted on 10/04/2002 4:05:06 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: 2banana
I don't suppose Clinton selling all of our space technology to the Chinese had anything to do with it?

Not as much as you would think. I worked in the space business for years. What you get in any business is just what you ask for. Pre-clintoon, space workers were asked to get successful missions, and they mostly did. In the clintoon era, they were asked to have a diversified work force, and they mostly did.
Leadership is about setting priorities. Those of us who vote for leaders must make sure that we agree with the priorities of the ones we elect. What they ask for is what all of us will get.

10 posted on 10/04/2002 5:56:55 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: LibWhacker
For some satellite fun

That is sooo cool. Like watching electrons orbit a really big atom. 45 years ago there was just one artificial satellite. Well, two, the payload and the booster. Most of us saw the booster rather than the Sputnik, but that was really something!

11 posted on 10/04/2002 8:58:35 PM PDT by RightWhale
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Isn't it amazing how many are out there? I knew there were a lot, but I had no idea how crowded it was getting out there until I started playing around with that simulation. :-)
12 posted on 10/04/2002 9:12:42 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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There seem to be three groups of orbits. Close to earth there are so many satellites it is just a cloud. Farther out there is the ring [like Saturn] of commsats. And then there are others, a random category, that seem to be all over the place.
13 posted on 10/04/2002 9:21:17 PM PDT by RightWhale
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A lot of those satellites in the outer ring are geo-stationary satellites, while those in between are polar orbiters. Some of the ones in between the inner and outer rings have really weird, eccentric orbits.

Try this . . . drag the frame around and around in a circle until you can see the Continental US. Notice the fat cluster of satellites parked over the US in the outer ring? Click on one of them. Select the option 'Center on satellite,' and then speed the simulation up to the maximum possible speed and refresh rate.

You can see most of the satellites in this cluster hover right over the US while all the others are zipping all around. I think you can also get that orbit info from the drop-down menu, but it's cool (I think) to see it in action.

I haven't checked 'em all out yet. I wish they'd give us a little more information, such as whose satellite it is and what it's doing. I'd like to know how many of them are Russian.

BTW, I found that site through this under-appreciated post. I still haven't been able to explore all of it.

I definitely get the feeling that someday we're going to be able to click on a satellite on some webpage like this one in the future, and check out all the images and all the data it's collecting on the Earth (that is, as long as the satellite isn't a military one). I sure hope it's reasonably priced. Right now, I think their prices are a bit steep for the little guy.

14 posted on 10/04/2002 9:49:23 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: *Space
space ping. If it wasn't for the bad space/defense policy of propping up incompetent government contractors and encouraging them to merge, then we would still have both core engineering compentence and greater innovation. Instead we have very expensive pork.
15 posted on 10/05/2002 12:56:54 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: LibWhacker
Dude, I think I just deleted a Russian satellite by accident. Take cover.
16 posted on 10/05/2002 1:06:19 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
LOL . . . good job!
17 posted on 10/05/2002 1:13:22 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: 1rudeboy; RightWhale
I wish they'd give us a little more information, such as whose satellite it is and what it's doing. I'd like to know how many of them are Russian.

Stupid me . . . I told you I hadn't fully explored the site!

Try this: click on a satellite in the sim, then click on the 'Satellite' drop down menu. Click on 'select.' Find your satellite in the list and double click it. Then click on "Sat. Info." All the info about that satellite will now be displayed in the second window that opened up when you first got to the simulation.

18 posted on 10/05/2002 1:34:21 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
cool site - thanks!
19 posted on 10/05/2002 1:38:41 PM PDT by meowmeow
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To: LibWhacker
someday we're going to be able to click on a satellite on some webpage like this one in the future, and check out all the images and all the data it's collecting

Much of the infrastructure to do this is already in place; it needs to be implemented in a test case. The amount of data that would go over the Internet servers in the world would probably increase a few percent as a result, but raw satellite data needs processing to be used by the general audience. It's a question of how much preprocessing would be done and how much would be left to the browser.

20 posted on 10/05/2002 1:47:39 PM PDT by RightWhale
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