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Me | 10/2/2002 | Me

Posted on 10/02/2002 7:15:37 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye

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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Oh, thanks...I don't eat fast food ( though once, I went to a Webdy's, when I had jury duty and found the food ( ? ) disgusting , inedable, and didn't eat lunch.)and didn't know the name.
341 posted on 10/04/2002 1:32:19 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Stavka2
Guilliani president...Keyes vice?

Obviously, you're not a conservative. (No one who follows conservative politics in America closely would ever suggest such a ticket.) This will happen when snow cones are sold at the corner of Hades and Sheole.

342 posted on 10/04/2002 1:32:53 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Stavka2
The point is not what Iraq will do directly with WMD, against Israel or the US. It is the fact he may make them available to terrorists, such as Saudi/other islamist terrorists. He is and has been given adequate chances, to be rid of the weapons, per UN treaty, but continues to play games.

That isn't an acceptable situation, after 9/11/01 plain and simple.

I expect the US wishes to get positioned in Iraq, for whatever staging is required for Saudi. I further expect the mullah government of Iran to fall, to a democratic, secular regime...especially if the US/Britain take down Iraq.

I'm not persuaded by Saddam being non-islamist; for the WMD threat overrides everything else. He shot missiles into Israel, attempting to start a major regional war. He is not the safe & sane guy you present him to be.

How about Saudi as a conquered territory-protectorate of the US? Of the UN? Another 9/11/01 and 15 out of 19 would seal that deal, I expect. So it is in the interest of Saudi leaders, that it does NOT happen again, or they are finished as rulers.

But the muslims are crazy, can't think straight. Insanity is doing the same thing over and ove, expecting different results. Witness Arafat.

I expect another 9/11/01 in a couple of years. We may head it off, but they will probably try.

At this stage, Bush gives the opponents a chance to fix the problems first. That is "fair" and "moral." If they refuse or fail, it is fair and moral to prevent terrorist threats, against ourselves or our friends.


343 posted on 10/04/2002 1:32:58 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: nopardons
I was trying to think of a famous, ummmm...well, not a chef. : ) I should have said Colonel Sanders.
344 posted on 10/04/2002 1:33:58 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: ArneFufkin; Texasforever
And Tex would bitch at me for doing it first.

ROTFL - yeah, I think he would.

346 posted on 10/04/2002 1:35:06 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Stavka2
Keyes is a bloviating, arrogant, tiny man, with NO right to be called " moral ". He has , at least TWICE irrationally and erroniously claimed that race kept him out of a GOP debate, when he was NOT running as a REPUBLICAN. He was on T.V., withing a day or two, of President Bush being sworn in, badmouthing him for things not done nor contempalted. I could go on and on; however, you abject lack of knowledge about Keyes, who paid himself a GIGANTIC salary, from donated campaign monies, doesn't make him " untainted " ; especially NOT, when he didn't ( still has NOT ) paid campaign related expeness. That's right, he STIFFED many of his his creditors !

Rudy is a politician. If you don't, for one minute , think that he O-W-E-S his contributors , then you are delusional. Rudy did some great things for N.Y.C. ! He also did some egregiously dreadful things. No one's perfect.

You attempt to lecture us, yet YOU don't know what you're talking about, when it comes to these two men . You're a polictical naif, if you can even begin to imagine that Rudy would take Alan as a V.P. running mate ; let alone run for president anytime soon.

I seem to have missed it ; however , if you are putting down Texasforever ( a man with far more knowledge and common sense than you'll ever have ! ), then, dear, you have a great deal to learn still.

347 posted on 10/04/2002 1:43:22 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
That name, I would have known. I guess that I tend to miss some things. LOL
349 posted on 10/04/2002 1:46:11 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
This guy is a bad one, among many bad ones, over the years.

350 posted on 10/04/2002 1:48:42 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Surfin
MY " political problems " ? What on earth are you talking about ? I'm talking about HISTORICAL FACTS ; not some " feelings " , as you are, which as baseless.

" MORALS " ? Saudi Arabia and all other Islamic dictatorates think that THEY are moralists. Are those countries " great " ? Morality, in this country, have been on the downward slide, for at least a century. The " Wild West " was immoral ; so were many other places.

Just which and whose " morals " are you even talking about ? YOUR'S ? Boston's old Blue Laws ? The Mormons', when they settled Utah ? Boss Tweed's ? History, is obviously not your strong suit and neither is the ability to write a cogent argument.

351 posted on 10/04/2002 1:52:29 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Surfin
What utter drivel !

Not to put too fine an edge on it, dear, you wouldn't know that you had cancer, if your nose fell into your lap, you were in constant pain, and 100 doctcors, from Sloan-Kettering told you that your body was riddled with it.

352 posted on 10/04/2002 1:54:45 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Surfin
What's patently obvious, are your blinders and abject lack of factual, historical knowledge.
354 posted on 10/04/2002 2:00:41 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Surfin
Using a cracked crystal ball, dear ?
356 posted on 10/04/2002 2:04:37 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Tex' son is among the best warriors ever. A Marine ninja. Ready, willing and able, today, tomorrow ... for us and to the great dismay and bad fortuity of our enemies.

He has a remarkable grace and patience with dipshits here. I don't.

359 posted on 10/04/2002 2:26:39 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Texasforever
Tex, if you recall, we don't need any Iraqi oil, because our "unilateral assault" on Afghanistan was only to grab oil oil oil ... too.

Tex, I've tried to tell you this over the years: "You can't go wrong spending every research dime on 18th century technology, 15th century governance and 8th century society! You BIG OIL guys just never got it.

All these years, you could have pumping countless tons of oil from Dennis Kucinich's hair.

360 posted on 10/04/2002 2:36:45 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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