HR 4691, Some Voted Against allowing Doctors,Hospitals the right to choose to not commit abortions.

http://www.prolifeinfo.org/ ^ | 9.26.02

[BlackElk]

What kind of district is it? What sort of demographics? Stasrt an effort to beat him in the next primary now. What else is he no good on? Maybe he can be induced to leave Congress and take Barney Frank with him. Kolbe is no kid. Is anyone ready to roll for the nomination if there is a special election? Will Matt Salmon help if he is governor to remove Kolbe? If Kolbe wants to vote to force doctors and hospitals to perform abortions against their consciences or religious tenets, then he is an anti-religious bigot and ought to go instantly. The Libertarians ought not to rise to his defense if he wants to require religious or ethical objectors to initiate force and particularly when the statute invades rights of conscience. "Log Cabin" Republicans are gay or gay-friendly. Do they want to buy off on supporting this bigotry and violation of conscience? Many will not. There are also civil libertarians (small l) among liberal RINOs who may well have problems with this. Raise hell and then defeat it in the next primary. Start now. Good luck and God be with you!

[ladylib]

"respect for your right of conscience may be seen as showing favoritism to religion"

Your damn freaking right! Like showing "favoritism to religion" is a bad thing!!!!!?????

And I'm not a religious person, but I will defend someone to the hilt whose religion prohibits him/her from performing abortions, giving out birth control information, etc., etc.

[Spiff]

Kolbe is worse than that. Kolbe has voted AGAINST the Republicans to vote against EVERY Partial Birth Abortion ban that has come to the House floor. We put that in a Behnke campaign ad right before the election - and the fact that the last time he voted against PBA ban was July 25th - but it didn't help much.

Unfortunately, Behnke got into the campaign late and didn't have the funding to mount a very strong campaign. That, and most of the Republican voters in this district are RINO-lovers. Add to that the fact that Kolbe is the token homo Republican in Congress so enjoys the support of the RINO National Committee (RNC) and he's hard to beat.

We're already looking for who to run against him in the next Primary in two years. We've learned that we have to start early, secure major funding (we were up against Kolbe's $1.6million campaign warchest), and only run a candidate from Tucson (Behnke was from Sierra Vista).

Look at my profile page for more info on Behnke and on this primary election race that saw the IDIOT Republican voters in this district keep Kolbe in office.

[EODGUY]

When your Congressional representative is the lone, self-proclaimed lesbian, it isn't even necessary to check the vote tally. I know she advocates choice only when it agrees with her agenda.

[Coleus]

Here it is, sign the petition

http://www.cathfam.org/cfexcom/Excom.html

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200107/CUL20010717b.html

http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2001Apr/apr21hh.htm

http://www.nrlc.org/Federal/Scorecard/pagescore/nj.PDF

http://capwiz.com/nrlc/officials/congress/?state=NJ&azip=07055&bzip=4401&district=08

http://www.nrlc.org/Federal/Scorecard/index.html

http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2001May/2001hh.htm

[JMJ333]

Thanks. Signed. ;)

[Judith Anne]

The day I am told that I must work in a hospital that does abortions is the day I quit nursing. For good.

[Coleus]

I hear ya, that's good you stand for your convictions.

While doing street-side counseling at an abortion clinic, in Englewood, NJ, I came across and employee's car in the parking lot, and much to my surprise I saw a parking permit sticker for St. Joseph's Hospital, Paterson, NJ, on her back window. Yes, she works full time for a Roman Catholic Hospital and on the weekends, she works for the culture of death at the Metropolitan Health Center (abortion mill) in Englewood, NJ.

I called the Sisters of Charity, Convent Station, Chester, NJ, where the order of nuns who run the hospital are located, the Bishop's office of the Paterson Diocese and the Hospital, ALL were indifferent and did not care!!!

And the Bishop's office really flored me when they said what business is this of ours, the hospital employees are not on the diocese's payroll? Can you believe this? All Catholic Institutions (hospitals, colleges, schools, etc.) are under the control of the local bishop!! I don't know, I guess it's OK to have employees of Catholic hospitals perform abortions on their weekend jobs.

I don't know what religion you are but I will tell you now the Catholic Church is dead. They are nothing but a bunch of liberal democrats interested in welfare give-away programs and harboring illegal immigrants.

[Black Agnes]

Unbelieveable.

[yendu bwam]

And the Bishop's office really flored me when they said what business is this of ours, the hospital employees are not on the diocese's payroll? Can you believe this? All Catholic Institutions (hospitals, colleges, schools, etc.) are under the control of the local bishop!! I don't know, I guess it's OK to have employees of Catholic hospitals perform abortions on their weekend jobs. I don't know what religion you are but I will tell you now the Catholic Church is dead. They are nothing but a bunch of liberal democrats interested in welfare give-away programs and harboring illegal immigrants.

The Church is not dead, but it is wounded seriously.

[Coleus]

True, it is the Church of Jesus Christ and although we are not perfect He sure is. It shall rebound.

My pastor was telling me today that he was celebrating mass at another church and the Deacon there asked him if he could say the word "hell" during his sermon. My pastor said absolutely. It turns out the pastor of that church doesn't want his subordinates to mention the word hell and my pastor later found out that this Catholic Church does not have the confession schedule listed in their bulletin.

Yes, the church is seriously wounded. The church must do everything in its power to get rid of these liberals.

[yendu bwam]

My pastor was telling me today that he was celebrating mass at another church and the Deacon there asked him if he could say the word "hell" during his sermon. My pastor said absolutely. It turns out the pastor of that church doesn't want his subordinates to mention the word hell and my pastor later found out that this Catholic Church does not have the confession schedule listed in their bulletin.

I have never heard the word hell in a homily in my whole life. I have never heard the word homosexual in a homily in my whole life. I have never heard the word fornication in a homily in my whole life. I have never heard the word adultery in a homily in my whole life. I have never heard the word contraception in a homily in my whole life. I have never heard the word divorce in a homily in my whole life. This, despite the fact that homosexuality is one of the immense issues of our time, that kids are bombarded every day by sexually tinged messages which promote pre-marital sex. Divorce is extremely commonplace. Etc. Etc. I just want a parish where comprehensive and complete Catholicism is preached and taught. Shouldn't be too much to ask, one would think.

[Coleus]

Yep, these new priests aren't doing their job.

[Coleus]

That's because more women vote so the politicians cater to them. And the baby and the baby's father has no rights at all.

[Coleus]

There are congressmen, Catholic or otherwise, who voted against Catholic Hospitals and pro-life Health Care Workers, let the people in your district know with a letter to the editor and through e-mail,  especially if you have a Catholic Hospital in your town or congressional district.  All the other life-issue votes since 1997 are on the link too.

Congressional Elections will be in November, check here for their Pro-Life votes

Abortion Non-Discrimination Act, this act prevented Catholic Hospitals and pro-life health-care workers from being penalized for not performing abortions and other procedures contrary to their religious and moral faith. A "yes" vote for this act protected the pro-life workers, a "no" vote penalized Health-Care workers., this act was voted on in 2002.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Nancy Pelosi? What a flake! And what a disgrace to her family and faith!

[madprof98]

I have never heard . . .

You and a whole lot of others. But it's not the most recently ordained priests who refuse to speak out. It's the ones who decided back in the '70s that (a) they no longer believed in the "old" teachings and that (b) they were going to stay in the priesthood nonetheless. In my experience, some of these people are very caring pastors, but they are depriving the people in the pews of a real understanding of what the Church teaches--and, when it comes to evil, it is NOT "tolerance."

[Quix]

Spent a long time at the link clerk's site. Used several search phrases including title and number etc.

ZILCH.

If someone has link to the page listing the votes by State Congress critters, please ping me.

[Coleus]

Go to post #35 and click the word "here" it will take you to the Nat. RTL legislative page.