Denver Police Department "spy file" describes Libertarian Party as a "militia" type organization.

Libertarian Party ^ | 9/24/02 | LP.org

[lawdog]

"Responding to criticism about the files, the Denver Police Department acknowledged that some groups were improperly characterized as "criminal extremists." A police spokesman said untrained clerks mistakenly shoehorned every organization into the few options available in the software's limited menu."

I'm sorry but this "bit" is pure self serving CYA B.S. That's not how "intell" ends up in a file. Clerks enter only what already has been "gathered" by others. It looks like someone at Denver PD learned the ol' Clintonesque computer SNAFU bit.

[Roscoe]

So, Roscoe, when you're saying libertarians are traitorous criminals

No quote, naturally.

[Roscoe]

Angry nutjobs, like Rick Stanley or Claire Wolfe threatening a revolution if the voters continue to reject their cult philosophy, have nothing to do with "redress of grievances and our Second Amendment Rights."

[rmmcdaniell]

Maybe if the Republicans were really for the Bill of Rights, instead of RINOs, the Republicans would have maintained control of the Senate.

You are a real joke. The problem with those on the politcal right is that if God himself were the republican candidate there would be those who would stay home. Wayne Allard has a lifetime ACU rating of 96% and a rating of 100% for this year. He aint no RINO!! If conservatives and libertarians stay home and allow Allard to loose, don't be suprised if the Republicans nominate a real RINO in 2008 as a challenger to the RAT. They'll nominate a moderate in order to attract middle-of-the-road voters since conservatives are impossible to appease. I can see a reason to vote for the libertarian candidate if you lived in Arizona and McCain was up for re-election. But not Wayne Allard!

[Liberal Classic]

This is untrue. Furthermore, they are fighting words!

My point is that if libertarians are allowed on FR, you should try to hold your tongue of the most biting comments. I know that you've had posts pulled, when this happens you should take that as a sign that you've done something wrong. I very rarely have posts pulled, because I realize I am on someone else's property and I don't shoot from the hip. When one of my posts is pulled, I don't do it again. You, however, do not seem to learn from it.

If Jim is going to allow libertarians as guests, you should take some care. If libertarians are not guests, but disruptors, then comments like "traitor" should be no problems, and they should be banned at every opportunity. My problem with you is that you act out the latter, while the former is the case.

And let me be clear when I say: I am saying nothing about banning or censure, I am just telling you man to man to watch what you say. If Jim says that it is open season on libertarians, then by all means flame away. Until then you need to straighten up and fly right.

[Roscoe]

I'll give your accusations all the consideration they're due.

[Liberal Classic]

Alright, that's all I can ask.

[Frohickey]

Maybe in Colorado, you have true blue limited government, tax cutting, Bill of Rights respecting Republicans.

Out here in the left coast of Kalifornia, up until Bill Simon, all we have ever seen were RINOs. Almost had Dick Riordan as a gubernatorial candidate.

[rmmcdaniell]

Maybe in Colorado, you have true blue limited government, tax cutting, Bill of Rights respecting Republicans.

Actually I live in NJ, the thread was on Colorado. I will be voting for Forrester even though he is not likely to be anywhere near as conservative as Allard. In NJ I take what I can get. The Rats have won all the senate races for the past 30 years here, and this may be our only chance to win a senate seat for another 30. RINO in conservatives states like Arizona are unacceptable. But RINOS in democrat stronghold states like NJ and CA are the only people who will get elected. Its called strategy, something the stay at home purists and libertarians never understand.

[CJ Wolf]

Stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society." --Thomas Jefferson

So I can expect a gift from the social law of a stable now? Or is it not late enough yet?

[dark_lord]

Excuse me. I saw your statement: What can be said for someone who quotes Noam Chomsky prominently on his profile page? The person has read like a newbie disruptor since day one. Brazenly advocating a mission statement contrary to the owner of the server he is squatting on must be one of those 'principled frauds' we hear about.

So I went to this person's profile page. This is what I found:

Beginning of quote from that profile page:
"The weird offshoot of ultra-right individualist anarchism that is called 'libertarian' happens to amount to advocacy of perhaps the worst kind of imaginable tyranny, namely unaccountable private tyranny." --Noam Chomsky

(This is probably the stupidest statement I've ever heard in my life! This is how the enemies of liberty think. Sickening, isn't it?)
End of quote from that profile page.

Now correct me if I am wrong, but either you only read the quote from that left-wing weasal Chomsky and skipped the following statement that indicates the disagreement with Chomsky, in which case you should at least retract your statement, or you have deliberately tried to mislead forum readers about this poster. Hmmmm?

[Roscoe]

So I can expect a gift from the social law of a stable now?

Perhaps a dictionary might be a more useful gift.

Main Entry: 3stable
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): sta·bler /-b(&-)l&r/; sta·blest /-b(&-)l&st/
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French estable, from Latin stabilis, from stare to stand
Date: 13th century
1 a : firmly established : FIXED, STEADFAST b : not changing or fluctuating : UNVARYING c : PERMANENT, ENDURING
2 a : steady in purpose : firm in resolution b : not subject to insecurity or emotional illness : SANE, RATIONAL
3 a (1) : placed so as to resist forces tending to cause motion or change of motion (2) : designed so as to develop forces that restore the original condition when disturbed from a condition of equilibrium or steady motion b (1) : not readily altering in chemical makeup or physical state (2) : not spontaneously radioactive
synonym see LASTING

[CJ Wolf]

I've got one thanks, You should look a little further in it.

stable: Pronunciation Key (stbl)n. A building for the shelter and feeding of domestic animals, especially horses and cattle. A group of animals lodged in such a building.

You twist his words and I'll twist yours Roscoe.

[Cultural Jihad]

When pointing out the quotation of that particular self-avowed libertarian-socialist, the keyword here was "prominently."

[dark_lord]

Oh, I see. You were pointing out that he was prominently disagreeing with Chomsky, and that he disagrees with Chomsky so much that he posts the disagreement on his profile page. Okay, got it.

[Roscoe]

I'll twist

Always.

[TigersEye]

I started to count up how many times you used the word
ideologue
on this thread but my calculator started to smoke.

Bwaaaaaaaahahahahahaha!

[RipSawyer]

Be it known that it is now officially forbidden to promote the Constitution of the United States. Freedom to kill babies which is not in the constitution takes precedence over all rights which are actually listed in the bill of rights.

[CJ Wolf]

as you

[Roscoe]

"It is agreed by those who have seriously considered the subject, that no individual has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land, for instance. By an universal law, indeed, whatever, whether fixed or movable, belongs to all men equally and in common, is the property for the moment of him who occupies it, but when he relinquishes the occupation, the property goes with it. Stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society." --Thomas Jefferson