Mexico is a contrast with Canada in dealing with powerful neighbor

San Diego Union-Tribune | Copley News Service ^ | 9/22/02 | Jerry Kammer

[Tancredo Fan]

And there are still many people running around telling us what a good friend Mexico is and how we owe legalization to their millions of criminals. Give me a break!

[Tancredo Fan]

A 'Viva Mexico' PING!

[Cicero]

Fox is a grave disappointment. Even if he got his "immigration reform" it wouldn't help Mexico much, if at all. Mexico has to deal with its own problems. Fox has blown it.

[Thud]

ping

[CatoRenasci]

Mexico wants to be a partner, not a lackey. Partners take responsibility for their own part of the business, partners don't drag their partners down. If Mexico wants to be treated as an equal by the US, it simply has to behave like one: raise its standard of living, open its economy, reform its legal system and extirpate the corruption endemic to Mexico and remove the root causes of illegal immigration to the North. When Mexicans can speak our language and have the same level of educational skills that Canadians coming to the US do, they should be able to travel here as easily. Mexico is simply not willing to admit it is still a third-world country.

We should fortify our border with Mexico, allowing in documented people and goods, but preventing all illegal cross-border traffic.

[Mr. Mojo]

intellectuals ­ portraying a bully [The U.S.] that routinely tramples its neighbors' sovereignty.

Mexico isn't a sovereign nation? We trample on this sovereignty exactly how?

Mexico is our enemy.....almost on par with the nations of "The Axis." And if the present sentiments and actions of our neighbor to the south continue along their present course, I would advocate cutting off all diplomatic and trade relations with them.

Round up, deport, and seal the borders.

[Jason Kauppinen]

"particularly among intellectuals ­ portraying a bully that routinely tramples its neighbors' sovereignty."

Those would be left-wing "intellectuals". At least up here.

[another cricket]

there's a nationalist sentiment in Mexico and Canada ­ particularly among intellectuals ­ portraying a bully that routinely tramples its neighbors' sovereignty.

Sweetie, if the US was such a bully you would not have national sovereignty at all. You would be part of the US.

Frankly, you would be better off.

a.cricket

[FITZ]

When Mexicans can speak our language and have the same level of educational skills that Canadians coming to the US do

Before they demand to be treated like Canadians they should start acting like Canadians.

[FITZ]

President Fox was very quick to condemn the United States recently for executing one of his cop-killing, drug-running citizens but he seems to be very silent on the incident with the two FBI agents who were dragged into Mexico and beaten to a pulp and almost murdered. Where is he on that kind of execution?

[MissAmericanPie]

Yeah, we are such bullies, we run all over Mexico and Canada don't we? In fact, maybe it is a good idea to run over Mexico and Canada.

[Tancredo Fan]

Yeah, we are such bullies, we run all over Mexico and Canada don't we? In fact, maybe it is a good idea to run over Mexico and Canada.

I just read in the Chicago Tribune that the Mexican government messing with U.S. affairs on U.S. soil again. Get this:

Preparing for a surge in immigration by Mexican women after an earlier wave of men who came to the Chicago area alone, the Mexican government and university researchers have launched an initiative to assess their unique needs.

[...]

"This is a very difficult task for the government," said Alberto Athie, a consultant to the Department of Social Development in Mexico. "We need to understand what happens to women when they settle here."

Hopefully they are caught and deported, but even after 9/11 we aren't seeing that happening because of our own weak, ineffective, and failed government. The Mexican government should have been tossed off U.S. soil long ago. Read the rest of the pathetic story.

[Tancredo Fan]

The guy is a sleazeball of the highest order.

[Maximum Leader]

Mexico is a basket case. Whats going on is that the light-skinned elites have been holding down the dark-skinned Indians for decades by (1) blaming all of their problems on the gringos, (2) exporting its poor and uneducated Indians to our country, knowing that the productive will bring back their earnings to Mexico and the unproductive will just leech over the US welfare system.

They're right about the Mexican-American War. We did make a terrible mistake annexing half of Mexico.

If you consider that Mexican-Americans make far more money, are better educated and have more political freedom than Mexicans who live in Mexico-- The worst thing that ever happened to Mexico is that President Polk didn't annex the whole country.

Think how much better off they'd be if all of Mexico were added to the US in 1848.

[Willie Green]

Despite long-standing economic, political and cultural ties to the United States, there's a nationalist sentiment in Mexico and Canada ­ particularly among intellectuals ­ portraying a bully that routinely tramples its neighbors' sovereignty.

I thought that both Canada and Mexico purged the "intellectual" class long ago.

[PRND21]

Canada let in 9-11 terrorists.
Mexico did not.
That's the main contrast I see.

[FITZ]

Believe it or not even certain Hispanics recognize that Mexico is not like Canada when it comes to cooperation with the US. If this was a non-Hispanic, you'd accuse him of racism but he's from the border area with Mexico (he's speaking of the incident with the FBI agents who were dragged over to Mexico and almost killed and the reaction from the Mexicans)

http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/borderland/20020923-24665.shtml

U.S. Rep. Silvestre Reyes, D-Texas, former El Paso Border Patrol chief, said, "I know from experience that the Sunland Park area is exceptionally dangerous." Like the two Juárez business leaders, he also noted the opportunity that exists for both sides to help one another.

"Our binational community must work together to ensure that attacks like this one do not happen again. I fully support the cooperation of Mexican and U.S. law enforcement agencies, and am pleased to see them working together," Reyes said.

He also said the cooperation between Canada and the United States on crime-fighting matters at the northern border provides an example for us to emulate.

[usadave]

Despite long-standing economic, political and cultural ties to the United States, there's a nationalist sentiment in Mexico and Canada ­ particularly among intellectuals ­ portraying a bully that routinely tramples its neighbors' sovereignty.

Canada and Mexico each save many billions of dollars a year in military costs because they know that their rich and powerful neighbor, the United States, is there to protect them if they should ever come under attack by a foreign army. Then Canada and Mexico have the nerve to refer to us as a bully and complain that we trample on their sovereignty. Sheesh, talk about gratitude.

[skeeter]

Paz wrote of "the old relationship between the strong and the weak, oscillating between indifference and abuse, lies and cynicism." "The majority of Mexicans have the justified conviction that the treatment our country receives is unjust."

The nerve of US legislators, not immediately codifying Mexico's colonization effort.

I'd be interested to know just what do the American people recieve in return for 8 million illegal immigrants... besides cheap yardwork.

[canuckwest]

Says who! Put up some documented facts to back up your assertion or withdraw it. I will be watching for your post.