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I have never felt more proud or more alone (pro-Israel demonstrator gets spat on......BY ANTI NAZIS)
Washington Jewish Week ^ | August 24, 2002 | Sarah Kopelovich

Posted on 09/10/2002 3:41:31 PM PDT by zapiks44

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To: Parley Baer
Parley, the fact that she said she feels alone, reflects exactly what you said. She seems to lump people into two groups--neo nazis and now liberal nazis without seeing the wide middle ground of conservatives who support Israel. Hopefully with the eye opening, she will be willing to educate herself so she will see she is not really all that alone after all.
61 posted on 09/10/2002 9:06:17 PM PDT by glory
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To: faintpraise
From what I understand the Arab countries discriminate against the Palestinians and consider Palestinians inferior. Doesn't America give more money to the Palestinians than Saudia Arabia? Saudia Arabia is a very rich country.What about all the money Arafat has?Hasn't Arafat been intrusted with funds to help the Palestinians?
Where has that money gone?
62 posted on 09/10/2002 9:06:59 PM PDT by moteineye
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To: Prodigal Son
I think the number 10 was used metaphorically, so to speak.
I believe as apparently does the poster who introduced that number above me, that the neo-Nazi threat is, has been exaggerated in order to divert attention from the actual creeping threat of Communism. As I stated above, whatever their actual number, the neo-Nazis have in their entire history achieved less in terms of influence and results than the Moonies or Lyndon LaRouche or Deepak Chopra for that matter, and I think the New Age movements, such as they, are should be of some concern to us even if they aren't overtly political. I may be wrong, but I see the neo-Nazis as harmless laughable clowns, living and acting on the very margins that can be and should be safely ignored. Because while we were watching them, the Stalinists have taken over our universities and the university towns to boot.
63 posted on 09/10/2002 9:07:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: Prodigal Son
Sorry about the misplaced commas in # 63. The Communists commixed my commas!
64 posted on 09/10/2002 9:10:03 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: Michael.SF.
There are also Christian citizens of Israel.
65 posted on 09/10/2002 9:34:56 PM PDT by Inkie
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To: quebecois
Do me a favor and send this to her address above. This is the kind of post she needs to see for even more clarity. Liberals are always talking about the roots of a problem so this should be of interest to her where the roots of liberal hatred of Jews came from(partly thier own making).
66 posted on 09/10/2002 9:37:26 PM PDT by glory
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To: faintpraise
How about the Arab countries welcoming back all the Jews they threw out in 1948? Number for number, it was about an even swap. The difference is that Israel absorbed the displaced Jews. The Arab countries made sure the displaced Arabs stayed displaced; hence the Palestinian issue was born and kept alive for the last 54 years.
67 posted on 09/10/2002 9:39:12 PM PDT by Inkie
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To: CounterCounterCulture; Syncro; deeel-me-in; mac_truck; Drango; nastypumps; rogue yam; dennisw; ...
Thought you might be interested - ping.
68 posted on 09/10/2002 9:40:24 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: rmlew
Not only that, look at what the growing Muslim populations are doing to the electorate in Europe! They are afraid of their own immigrants. Soon Europe will be another Islamic region. And some think Israel should invite the viper into its bosom? Faintpraise should get real.
69 posted on 09/10/2002 9:44:13 PM PDT by Inkie
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To: quebecois
Many good points.
70 posted on 09/10/2002 9:47:29 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: Inkie
Europe won't let that happen. Mohammdans are less than 5% of the Continent, and not a majority in a single nation-state except for Albania. When they grow to about 15% of the population their aggression will exponentially increase. And, thus will the reaction. They will be deported in the long run, and rightfully so.
71 posted on 09/10/2002 9:50:57 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: Revolting cat!
Sorry about the misplaced commas in # 63. The Communists commixed my commas!

LOL! They're just redistributing them, Comrade!

Re your 63- hey, that's fair enough and I would actually say I share your sentiment about the group's importance versus the Marxists in our country. I think the neo Nazis are slowly being marginalized- people just don't have the patience for that type of nonsense anymore. They're either falling all over themselves trying to get some "social justice" or they're just too fat and happy with life in our great nation to be bothered with it.

Still, racism is an ugly thing to run up against, no matter where it's coming from and I felt sorry for this young woman. I think she has much careful reflection ahead of her. She will probably find herself included in a growing number of Jewish conservatives in America as they finally wake up to the fact that the left is not on their side.

Cheers.

73 posted on 09/10/2002 9:59:14 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: faintpraise
"I could accept Israel if it abandoned Jewish exclusivism and welcomed back returning Palestinian Arab refugees"

Would you then also give equal credence to this statement?:

"I could accept Palestine if it abandoned Palestinian exclusivism and welcomed back returning Jewish and Arab refugees"

The sword is sharpened on both sides of the blade.

74 posted on 09/10/2002 10:18:55 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: Phillip Augustus
That many paleos, Pat Buchanan NOT included, seem to go beyond desiring American non-involvement in the Middle East vis-a-vis Israel and Palestine, and actually shed crocodile tears for the 'poor, oppressed Palestinians' is ridiculous, and certainly does more harm than good.
Someone should remind Pat, Scott McConnel, Taki et all that the Southwest is being Palestined.

Like Europe, though, if the people therein don't start having more babies, they're going to lose it...which is another topic altogether, I suppose.
Were that Europeans and white Americans to have the birthrate of Israeli Jews: 2.5 .
Of course the absolute stat for Israeli Jews does not tell the whole story. Non-religious Ashkenazis (Eastern Europeans) have the same problem as Europeans in general. Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews tend to have more than 3 kids. Religious Jews take the commandment to be fruitful quite literally with about 5. Unfortunately Arab women have 6.
Pat's thesis in the "Death of the West" is quite valid.

75 posted on 09/10/2002 11:49:31 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: Inkie
The Arab countries made sure the displaced Arabs stayed displaced;

I read in the International edition of the Jerusalem Post a couple of weeks ago that Jordan has closed the border to Palestinian Arabs, even those with valid Jordanian passports. Says a lot about what they think of the Palestinian Arabs, don't it?

76 posted on 09/11/2002 12:23:45 AM PDT by SWake
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To: Prodigal Son
She will probably find herself included in a growing number of Jewish conservatives in America as they finally wake up to the fact that the left is not on their side.

That's me, right here! Jewish, ex-lefty---woke up big time after 9/11. This young woman is coming along. She's just beginning to figure it out, but I think she's on the right path. It's the same one I was on and I ended up here!

77 posted on 09/11/2002 12:57:51 AM PDT by SeenTheLight
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To: faintpraise
I could accept Israel if it abandoned Jewish exclusivism and welcomed back returning Palestinian Arab refugees as well as Jewish immigrants. However, I will oppose American support of Israel as long as it retains an undemocratic military occupation and discriminates against Palestinian Arabs.

Are you sure you weren't part of that attacking mob?

78 posted on 09/11/2002 1:00:10 AM PDT by SeenTheLight
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To: spqrzilla9
Liberals hate Israel because of the jealous God who protects her. Liberals hate the Christians for speaking that God's language and for professing His Son and His gospel. Liberals hate the Light and worship the Darkness. When the Lord's chosen people and their brethren in Christ are spoken of by the sons of perdition, their tounges burn in their heads and their hearts harden as that of Pharoah. They are doomed to make chase with their chariots of ideological schizophrenia and to drown in the great Red Sea of their own hypocrisy!
79 posted on 09/11/2002 1:19:30 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: Michael.SF.
Hillary dines and smooches with a terrorists wife and the Jews continue to support her. Where is the sense in that?

Are you going to believe me, or your lieng eyes ?
80 posted on 09/11/2002 1:30:41 AM PDT by John Lenin
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