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Sept. 11: US Nice Guy says 'enough' (Long but VERY good read)
UPI ^ | 09/07/02 | Martin Walker

Posted on 09/07/2002 8:28:52 PM PDT by What Is Ain't

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1 posted on 09/07/2002 8:28:52 PM PDT by What Is Ain't
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To: What Is Ain't
Wow. What a great read.
2 posted on 09/07/2002 8:44:27 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: What Is Ain't
Great find! This reminds me I've been more than a little remiss in not thanking God every day that Gore lost. Can you imagine where we'd be today if he had won? The thought gives me the willies.
3 posted on 09/07/2002 8:47:36 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: What Is Ain't
BRAVO
4 posted on 09/07/2002 8:47:40 PM PDT by Crusader21stCentury
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To: What Is Ain't
Excellent read.
5 posted on 09/07/2002 8:48:31 PM PDT by tet68
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To: What Is Ain't
EXCELLENT POST!
6 posted on 09/07/2002 8:51:16 PM PDT by 11B3
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To: What Is Ain't
BEAUTIFUL!
7 posted on 09/07/2002 9:00:43 PM PDT by Moose4
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To: What Is Ain't
Absolutely spot-on. I agree with every sentiment espoused. Bookmarking this one...


8 posted on 09/07/2002 9:01:34 PM PDT by Long Cut
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To: What Is Ain't
Truly impressive article. We're going to have to keep an eye on this guy, looks like he's got quite a career ahead with that kind of clear thinking.
9 posted on 09/07/2002 9:03:28 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: What Is Ain't
Repeat after me: There is no difference between Bush and Gore.
10 posted on 09/07/2002 9:16:04 PM PDT by The Vast Right Wing
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To: What Is Ain't; weikel
"IMPRESSIVE....MOST IMPRESSIVE!"

>>>>>>The Saudi monarchy might hate such an emergence of democratic and representative government in its wretchedly ill-ruled region, but Washington understandably cares less and less for the concerns of a dubious ally whose nationals formed the bulk of the Sept. 11 terrorists.>>>>>>>

"The Saudis are fools and naive,you will find controlling them will not be difficult......Wipe them out,all of them.."

11 posted on 09/07/2002 9:37:42 PM PDT by Senator_Palpatine
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To: What Is Ain't
"The Europeans told us they could win the Balkans wars all on their own. Wrong. They told us that the Russians would never accept National Missile Defense. Wrong. They said the Russians would never swallow NATO enlargement. Wrong. They told us 20 years ago that détente was the way to deal with what we foolishly called the Evil Empire. Wrong again. They complain about our Farm Bill when they are the world's biggest subsidizers of their agriculture. The Europeans are not just wrong; they are also hypocrites. They are wrong on Kyoto, wrong on Arafat, wrong on Iraq -- so why should we take seriously a single word they say?"

I love this quote. I would love to know who the "senior diplomat" was.

Anyhow, note to Britain: we thank you for your support. Come along with us, or be left behind in the quagmire that is the European Union.
12 posted on 09/07/2002 9:46:36 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: What Is Ain't
This guy might have the right ideas, but his knowledge of history is shaky.
The United States, with the temporary exceptions of the occupation forces in Japan and Germany after World War II, has not ruled others and shows little intention of doing so.
Apparently this guy has never heard of the Philippines, which we occupied from 1898 to 1946.
13 posted on 09/07/2002 10:17:49 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: Looking for Diogenes
True, but the Phillipines were our sole colony and it's independence was a US goal from the moment we beat the Spanish. Independence would probably have occurred sooner if there hadn't been an agressive and expanding Imperial Japan to the north -- independence would not have lasted long before 1945. Unlike European and Japanese colonies of those years, the US govt. was quite aware that the Phillipines would never become a source of economic wealth for a colonial master and was to be released as soon as it's chances of survival and success were good.

The other few US conquests and acquisitions -- Guam, Alaska, Hawaii, American Samoa, and Puerto Rico -- have all become either states or territories with US citizenship. Cuba was turned over to self-rule and independence very quickly after Spain was defeated.

14 posted on 09/07/2002 10:50:51 PM PDT by LenS
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To: Utah Girl
Bump to read later.
15 posted on 09/07/2002 11:02:13 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Apparently this guy has never heard of the Philippines...

Yeah, I caught that one too. Or Panama, for that matter. But what is significant about those, and for that matter about the occupation of Japan, a decidedly proto-imperial stance, is that we voluntarily returned all three to native governments, and what is even more astonishing, left even our strategic bases in the Philippines when asked. That simply is incompatible with the "imperialism" cliche we've become accustomed to.

Continental Europe has always found it easier to sit back and criticize than to step to the front. The risk of that policy is irrelevancy. It's surprising it's taken so long for that to happen, but I agree with the author, it is happening.

16 posted on 09/07/2002 11:21:02 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Aggie Mama
awesome
17 posted on 09/07/2002 11:50:09 PM PDT by cactusSharp
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To: Billthedrill
That simply is incompatible with the "imperialism" cliche we've become accustomed to.

Good point. Compare the differnce between the American Philippines and the Belgian Congo and you'll see the difference between European and American 'imperialism.'

18 posted on 09/08/2002 12:11:54 AM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: LenS
No arguments. American was an exemplary colonial power. But America was definitely a colonial power for several decades. I guess they don't teach that in public schools any more.
19 posted on 09/08/2002 12:20:39 AM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Actually, I would imagine that today's PC schools would spend a lot of time talking about America's colonial power days. It would give them a chance to slam the US on those days they're not talking about slavery, robber barons, and the slaughter of the Indians.

What they wouldn't mention is the difference between the US as a colonial power and say, France.

20 posted on 09/08/2002 12:39:08 AM PDT by LenS
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