Congress must declare Iraq war

Enter Stage Right ^ | September 2, 2002E | W. James Antle III

[boris]

IMHO Bush should have asked for--and been given--a formal declaration of war on 9/12.

Against what entity?

Islam.

The bombing should have started instantly.

Assassinations of their leaders.

Outrages against their holy places.

In other words, all-out war, 100%, until there was no terrorist threat...because terrorists and their supporters were all dead.

For as long as it takes. No prisoners, no quarter.

But instead, we are afraid it'll make the price of gas go up a quarter, and nobody wants his Sunday football game bumped by a Presidential address...

--Boris

[aSkeptic]

what parts of 'section 8: Clause 11' and 'section 10: Clause 3' do you people not understand?

[traditionalist]

On September 14 Congress gave the President authorization to fight terrorism. That is all the declaration that is needed.

Nope. On Sept. 14 Congress authorized the President to go after THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR 9-11. There is no conclusive evidence, at least none made public, that Iraq was involved in the attack. And no, Mohammed Atta meeting with an Iraqi agent in Prague does not constitute conclusive evidence. Now if Bush has got some evidence that shows Iraq was involved, by all means let him present it and then let's roll. Until then, he has no business taking this country to war without Congress declaring one.

[traditionalist]

Our first two wars under the Constitution were initiated by Presidents John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, two of the principle framers, without the benefit of a DOW. Presidents have been initating conflicts ever since, and no court has ruled their actions unconstitutional.

The Quasi-war with France was initiated by an act of Congress, authorizing American ships to sieze or sink French ships, and Tripoli declared war on the US in the before Jefferson did a thing. Plus Jefferson got Congressional authorization before he sent the Navy and Marines to North Africa.

As an irrelevent asside, neither Jefferson nor Adams were present at the Constitutional Convention, so to call them principal framers is inaccurate. With a little bit of a stretch you can grant Adams the tittle since some ideas from his writings were incorporated into the Constitution, but Jefferson had nothing whatsover to do with it.

[Jim Noble]

>>War Powers Act<<

Unconstitutional.

Have a nice day.

[Jim Noble]

>>Hmmmmm,.... Didn't Clinton drug us into Bosnia, Haiti, and about 7 diffent armed skirmishes without any congressional approval<<

So Xlinton's conduct wrt the Constitution is now the standard?

[breakem]

can't say anything about w witout a preface showing clint was worse. new posting rules

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[MontanaFreeper]

Thank you for posting that.
I see you listen to Rush too.
Can't let 'em forget that it's already a done deal.
Regards from Montana