Posted on 08/31/2002 4:48:31 AM PDT by gunnyg
Nobody here is defending the people who blew up our embassy or Marine barracks. If they were, I would criticize them as America haters. What some people here were defending were Sharon's policy in Lebanon of harassing and threatening American marines. Those are the people whose priorities I'm calling into question.
Arab scum killed hundreds of Americans while all you care about is the static Ariel Sharon was giving the USA. Like Great Britain, Israel does not march in lockstep with the USA. But they are both allies. This is what drives you Israel haters crazy.
No one expects Israel to march in lockstep with America, but given all the support we give her it would be nice if Sharon didn't send his troops to curse out American marines. As far as my hating Israel, in fact I respect its people far more than those of any other country in the Middle East. Furthermore I believe and have always said that every country (including Israel) has the right to do whatever it needs to do to defend itself. What I do despise, however, are those people on this board who are so confused about their responsibilties as citizens that they take Sharon's side when he sends tanks through American lines, orders fighter pilots to buzz American helicopters or sends his troops to curse and demean American marines.
Please notice that all these events happened in the same time frame as the Sharon showdown with the American commander. The early 1980's. Though the Iran/Iraq war went on longer. The Middle East is violent place and the only nation that gets scrutinized is Israel.
Right. They get their panties all in a wad because of the gamesmanship between Israeli troops and U.S. Marines. Macho stuff, testing the lines, pushing the envelope. If I was an IDF troop, I'd want to know how secure the lines between me and the Islamoterrorists were, too.
But the article shows that dispite this gamesmanship and testing, it was the Islamic terrorists who did all the killing, fighting, murdering of U.S. Marines in Lebanon.
Yet these posters get upset because some IDFer called a Marine a honkey, while Islamic terrorists murdered 100's of them? Right.. "a balanced view" my ass.
Yeah, I agree. It's wrong. But on the scale of wrongs it's a pretty fargin low priority. Hundreds of Marines were murdered in order to turn Lebanon from a Christian ruled state into an Islamic ruled state, and we are told how "wrong" it is that some IDFers cursed out some Marines.
How anyone can expect people to listen to this sh!t and not believe there is another agenda going on is unbelievable.
Lol. Here's "danglechad's" balanced view. Poisonous little nazi berry, ain't he?
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| Posted by hangin' chad to Yehuda On News/Activism ^ Aug 6 7:03 AM #20 of 25 ^ Calm down dude, and lay off the caffeine for awhile. Don't despair, your Zionazi buddy Sharoniac will surely murder some more "Palis" this week so your blood vengence can be quenced...and then Israel will be "safer" just like before..yeah that's the ticket. Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies |
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| [Israeli security] Shin Bet chief says 60 suicide bombers on way to Israel; Hamas rejects ceasefire ^ |
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| Posted by hangin' chad to BenF On News/Activism ^ Jul 31 7:20 PM #38 of 47 ^ ROTFLOL...somehow I knew you were part of the Kach vermin croud. Those who celebrate the killing of innocents. Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies |
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How anyone can expect people to listen to this sh!t and not believe there is another agenda going on is unbelievable.
You're misrepresenting what happened here. Someone posted a story about the problems U.S. marines had with Sharon's forces in Lebanon. It was an old story, I'd heard it all before and wouldn't even have commented on it had some people here not tried to discredit the information by claiming it came from a disreputable source. And that unfortunately is a depressingly familiar tactic here. If someone posts something that someone else doesn't like, the first instinct of some posters here is not to refute the information directly, which would be the intellectually honest thing to do, but to claim it came from a site that had Arab ties, terriorist ties or Holocaust-denial-site ties. That's why I responded to one of the posters who was attacking the source--it looked to me as if he were taking Sharon's side over our own marines.
You say you find it hard to believe that another agenda isn't going on here. Well I also see some not-so-hidden agendas going on around here, as when some people post photographs purportedly showing Sharon farting on General Zinni or call Norman Schwartzkopf a "fat Nazi janissary" or compare Bush Senior to "Adolph Eichmann"--and all because these three apparently failed to support Israel (or Sharon) as fully as the poster wanted. If people want to show their fervent support for Israel here, it's fine by me. But I draw the line when they do it by ridiculing American fighting men.
P.S. Thanks for reposting some of my previous gems...didn't know you were such a fan! Maybe I should hire you as my publicist.
Or post about the Iran/Iraq war with one million Muslims killed by Muslims.
Or the bombing in Lebanon where 300 Americans are killed by Muslim fanatics.
Please notice that all these events happened in the same time frame as the Sharon showdown with the American commander. The early 1980's. Though the Iran/Iraq war went on longer. The Middle East is violent place and the only nation that gets scrutinized is Israel.
One thing I've often noticed here is that when anyone criticizes Israel it is assumed that he supports Arafat, Hussein or the Palestinians. And that's just not true. No one is pushing the Arab cause here. The reason that people don't bother to post messages condemning for instance the attack on the marine barracks in Lebanon is that to do so here is to preach to the choir. Everyone agrees on those issues. So why bother? (And since there's no one defending such attacks, who are you going to post a criticism to anyway?)
Just listen to the voices in your head, dangle - I'm sure you'll end up with a whole catalog ;).
I've been asking for two days without a single lie being revealed.
Maybe you just don't have the mental equipment? Dark attic? Broken antenna? Too many old swastikas to polish to really concentrate?
Ariel Sharon is a war HERO, and most (sane) people recognize this fact. Alas, you appear to be insane.
You might want to check your lithium levels. The current issue of Newsweek contains this quote from the Mayor of Haifa -- "The current government led by Sharon is leading us nowhere. Using more and more force will lead us to nothing. You must take a political initiative." You probably think he's a nazi and an anti-semite too. Mr. Mitzna is a former field commander for the IDF who also condemned Sharon's war crimes in Beirut. But I'm sure you think he's a "Pali" lover who should be silenced. Now go check those lithium levels...and no the "Palis" aren't coming for you tonight....sleep tight.
Actually, killing messengers is illegal. Even such as you.
Now, if you'd just go join the other members of your species in Ramallah, I'm sure they'll get around to killing you just for your American accent ;).
No I'm not. I read the article on top of this thread just like everyone else.
What I see is a story about IDF troops calling U.S. Marines names, and trying to test their lines.
Then I continue to read, and see that Hezbullah Terrorists murdered a bunch of sleeping Marines and diplomats, shelled our boys at the airport, shot at them with sniper fire.
And that's supposed to be a "balanced view". It's rediculous. What the IDF did, compared to what the Hezbullah and PLO were doing are incomparable and not worthy of being in the same story.
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