An 'Authentic' Conservative, Buchanan Parts With Bush

INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY ^ | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 | BY BRIAN MITCHELL

[gcruse]

Your dossier seem to prefer a guilt by association
approach to smear Pat for being for America first.

I said he has an antipathy toward Jews.
The article clip I posted demonstrated that.
 

[Poohbah]

Your dossier seem to prefer a guilt by association approach to smear Pat for being for America first.

It's not like Carto twists Buchanan's arm or anything.

Believe it or not, scumbags tend to associate with various sorts of scumbag, and anti-Semites tend to associate themselves with other flavors of anti-Semite.

You do get known by the company you keep.

[ex-snook]

Again. Your dossier seem to prefer a guilt by association
approach to smear Pat for being for America first.

[gcruse]

If you want to be a nationalist socialist like Buchanan,
instead of a conservative like Reagan, then so be it. But please do not
slander Reagan by trying to make a hack speechwriter
who caused more trouble than he was worth into Ronaldus Redux.

I made a post comparing the conservatism of Bush
to that of Ronald Reagan.  How does that make
me a supporter of Buchanan?  I think Pat is a
national socialist too, so the line you are taking
is bizarre.

[rogerthedodger]

OK. Just checking the extent of your views.

I actually had noticed there was a war on, thanks.

[Poohbah]

I made a post comparing the conservatism of Bush to that of Ronald Reagan.

OK, then...

Did Ronaldus Maximus, for all the he DID do (and he did a lot) have the testicular fortitude to just rip up the ABM treaty?

[gcruse]

Again. Your dossier seem to prefer a guilt by association
approach to smear Pat for being for America first.

If you mean by associating him with Joseph
Sobran, I'll cop to that.  Sobran is just
a Buchanan-out-of-the-closet.

[SunStar]

Wow. You, disagree with a man's ideas, so you label him a racist/anti-semite?

Well, it's pretty much common knowledge that Pat Buchanan is against anything remotely related to helping the Jewish people and/or Israel. So, you can call it what you want, but he is anti-Jew, and he has been known to compliment and/or praise Hitler in the past as well.

[JohnGalt]

Leftists fully admit they are hostile to Christianity and the traditions of the old dead slaveowning white forefathers. The Second Amendment protects me from them and the failures of their social theories.

Neo-cons on the otherhand, pay lip service to the forefathers, and prefer debating troop movements in the Middle East to conserving elements of our civilization.

While an enlightened group of intellectuals will tolerate debate, the Neo-Cons have a policy of excommunicating any group that threatens their desire for ideological purity, thus fracturing the potential might of a truly Rightwing government. NR's Bill Buckely excommunicated the Randians, Libertarians, and John Birchers in the '60s, and when Pat was making the most meaningful challenge to the ruling class in 1992, he was wheeled out to call Pat an anti-Semite.

If their is a definable Rightist in this country, it is a person who believes that the current ruling elite needs to be replaces wholesale. At the very least, we should not be tolerating both the massive failures in their ability to defend us nor allowing them to embark on ceaseless wars in the Middle East.

[gcruse]

Did Ronaldus Maximus, for all the he DID do (and he did a lot)
have the testicular fortitude to just rip up the ABM treaty?

During the Cold War?  I should hope not.
He did, however, fire the entire Air Traffic
Controller union.  Compare that to erecting
steel tariffs to woo union votes.

[Zviadist]

Pat is Joe Sobran in the shadows.

Poetic, dude.

[ex-snook]

Again. Your dossier seem to prefer a guilt by association approach to smear Pat for being for America first.

So when are you going to discuss the article that is the subject of this thread?

[truth_seeker]

Buchanan: Great writer and commentator. Very weak politician and candidate.

His magazine will probably fail financially; reflecting the narrow appeal of his presidential run(s).

[Zviadist]

"Neo-Cons" is one of your favorite words. I wonder why you never state such vitriol about the Left.

Neo-cons are the left. They just like to cross-dress in conservative jargon.

[gcruse]

So when are you going to discuss the article that is the subject of this thread?

What?  You mean I have to read that schlock?
No thanks.  I was responding to a post wondering
why Buchanan was pro-Pali.

[junta]

From one ex-Marine to the next here is some friendly advice. Stop taking your clues from the Neo-cons on who to attack. Second on the war against Islam as you say I would think the "tolerant" Left should feel your wrath not a few conservatives on the Right who do not snap to when some Israeli Firster claims to have knowledge from the burning bush.

[Zviadist]

Let me tell you pal - the time for containment is over. The radical mohammedans are out for American blood - your blood, my blood!

And the Soviets were not? Were you asleep during the Cold War? Containment worked then. Stalin was a bit meaner than Saddam, if you didn't know.

[Zviadist]

he has been known to compliment and/or praise Hitler in the past

You are truly an IDIOT.

[rdb3]

Neo-cons are the left.

You're a damned lie.

I, according to the dictionary, am a "neo-con," although I refer to myself as a post-conservative. The Left is my sworn enemy due to what it has done in the name of black people which is to send them back to the plantation. I loathe the left with a passion unknown to most men.

So stick it.

[Poohbah]

During the Cold War? I should hope not.

Why not? It was a fairly stupid idea in 1972, and it didn't improve with age.