The world’s least-free country

Backwoods Home Magazine ^ | Sept/Oct 2002 | John Silveira

[PistolPaknMama]

We actually were not that far apart in agreeing. From your earlier post: We agree that there is need for reduction of government, the end of government control of public education, etc You admitted something is wrong with public education but when I used it in my own argument, I was out of line.

you suggested that those who disagree with you do so only because they don't know the TRUTH that you know...Never said that. One more time...we were having a discussion where people were voicing different opinions. You do know what opinions are don't you? We are entitled to them in the freest country in the world. You keep forgetting that.

you should stop suggesting that someone is a dimwitt just because they disagree with you...

Something you should try for yourself.

think you also knew that "guys" is a generic term....

Where I come from guys are men and girls are women. Don't know what they do where you live.

as you are the one who asserted that when a majority disagree with your view, it is because they are not well educated. That was arrogant, period.

Actually no it wasn't. I grew up in a small town and only have a high school education...public school at that. We did, however, learn history, studied the Constitution, and I have studied and read continuously on many subjects my whole adult life. Children graduating the last 10 years or so have been indoctrined into feel good socialism...you touched on the failing government school system yourself.

I would like to think you misunderstood my posts rather than think you're having a bad day.

[PistolPaknMama]

Get over the fact that someone can examine the facts, know the Constitution, know the intent of the Founding Fathers, have been educated in good schools, and disagree with you

Here are some additional facts to examine that are not taught in "good schools." Mind you, some of these points I do not agree with, some I know little about, some I see as blatant waste, but taken in its entirety shows how we have been drifting away from the intent of our Founding Fathers for most of this century.

How the Ten Planks of the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO were Accomplished in U.S.A.
By Dr. Ed Fields from his "The Truth At Last" series

COMMUNIST MANIFESTO PLANK #1:
ABOLITION OF PROPERTY (Rights) IN LAND AND APPLICATION OF ALL RENTS (Taxes) OF LAND TO PUBLIC PURPOSES.
Democracy: Zoning
School tax (from Property "rents").
Equitable interest in land, no allodial title.
No free holders.
Accomplished:14th Amend U.S. Constitution 1868. Title 17 health & safety code.

COMMUNIST MANIFESTO PLANK #2:
A HEAVY PROGRESSIVE OR GRADUATED INCOME TAX.
Democracy: 501 (c)(3) corporate churches/businesses.
Income tax -- IRS (Title 26) Fed. tax can take up to 88% of income.
Social Security.
Public property (state police powers).
Accomplished: 16th Amend U.S. Const. 1913.
Social Security Act 1936.
JHR 192, 1933.

COMMUNIST MANIFESTO PLANK #3:
ABOLITION OF ALL RIGHT TO INHERITANCE.
Democracy: Limited inheritance via inheritance tax.
Accomplished: Estate tax 1916.

COMMUNIST MANIFESTO PLANK #4:
CONFISCATION OF THE PROPERTY OF EMIGRANTS AND REBELS.
Democracy: Confiscation of drug-merchant property "War on Drugs".
IRS confiscation of private property without due process.
RICO Act (Racketeering Influenced & Corrupt Organizations).
Imprisonment of "terrorist" and those who write or speak against the government.
Accomplished: Public Law 99-570 1986. Established 1970. Sedition Act 1798 also used in 1940's and 1988.

COMMUNIST MANIFESTO PLANK #5:
CENTRALIZATION OF CREDIT IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE, BY MEANS OF A NATIONAL BANK WITH STATE CAPITAL AND AN EXCLUSIVE MONOPOLY.
Democracy: Federal Reserve Banks. All local banks use credit & are members of Fed. Reserve System and regulated by the U.S. Govt. Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).
Accomplished: Federal Reserve Act 1913. Federal Reserve Act 1933.

COMMUNIST MANIFESTO PLANK #6:
CENTRALIZATION OF THE MEANS OF COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPORT IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE.
Democracy: Interstate Commerce Commission.
Federal Communication Commission (FCC).
U.S. Civil Aeronautics. Federal Aviation Agency (FAA).
Accomplished: ICC Act 1887. The Commissions Act 1934. Est. 1938. Est.1958.

COMMUNIST MANIFESTO PLANK #7:
EXTENSION OF FACTORIES AND INSTRUMENTS OF PRODUCTION OWNED BY THE STATE, THE BRINGING INTO CULTIVATION OF WASTELANDS, AND THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE SOIL, GENERALLY WITH A COMMON PLAN.
Democracy: Anti-trust Acts.
Department of Commerce and Labor.
Department of Agriculture.
Dept. of Interior (Bureau of Land Management
Forest Service
Bureau of Reclamation
Bureau of Mines
National Park Service
Fish and Wildlife Service
Accomplished: Established 1902. Established 1903. Established 1862. Established 1849.

COMMUNIST MANIFESTO PLANK #8:
EQUAL LIABILITY OF ALL LABOR (for the National Debt). ESTABLISHMENT OF INDUSTRIAL ARMIES, ESPECIALLY FOR AGRICULTURE.
Democracy: "Two income families" because of inflation and National debt
Woman's Suffrage
Affirmative action
Socialist Unions
International Workers of the World (Chicago)
Accomplished: Women in the work place 1920's 19th Amend, U.S. Const.1920. Civil Rights Act 1964. Established 1869. Established 1905.

COMMUNIST MANIFESTO PLANK #9:
COMBINATION OF AGRICULTURE WITH MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES, GRADUAL ABOLITION OF THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN TOWN AND COUNTRY BY A MORE EQUABLE DISTRIBUTION OF THE POPULATION OVER THE COUNTRY.
Democracy: Farms lost to "the suburbs" and manufacturing/ commercialism.
Perverted technology/corporate farms.
National farmers Alliance and Industrial Union.
Accomplished:
1880-1990's (Title 17 "Zoning"). Took hold 1910-1990's/ 1870's-1880's.

COMMUNIST MANIFESTO PLANK #10:
FREE EDUCATION FOR ALL CHILDREN IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. ABOLITION OF CHILDREN'S FACTORY LABOR IN ITS PRESENT FORM. COMBINATION OF EDUCATION WITH INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION, ETC.
Democracy: State run, tax financed schools.
Socialized/progressive education.
Child Labor Act, Pennsylvania. Children now work with State approval.
Abolition of private education.
Accomplished: Horace Mann 1837-1848. John Dewey 1870-1910. Established 1848.

[Jordi]

Cuba is great for holydays.

[watcher1]

Cuba is great for holydays.

"holydays" ( sic)
Are you a canuckistani, or a nit wit?
Or both?

[watcher1]

I'm not sure I understand everything you posted.
If your point is , that the country has slipped far, very far from the ideals of the Founding Fathers, you're right.
Very right!
I doubt we will ever have a truly constitutional Free Republic again.
If the Founders were alive today, they'd cry.

[Jordi]

Don't bore me. Speak as you eat.

[Jordi]

....or you are so anti-freedom to impose me a strictly correct ortography???

[varon]

My neighbor repeatedly tells me that the greatest thing about the USA is that anyone can do whatever he wants with no societal sanctions.(my emphasis)

Oh yeah, our jails and prisons are full of people that thought the same way ;-)

[Jordi]

...In the old days [it ran], before the glorious Revolution, London was not the beautiful city that we know today. It was a dark, dirty, miserable place where hardly anybody had enough to eat and where hundreds and thousands of poor people had no boots on their feet and not even a roof to sleep under. Children no older than you had to work twelve hours a day for cruel masters who flogged them with whips if they worked too slowly and fed them on nothing but stale breadcrusts and water. But in among all this terrible poverty there were just a few great big beautiful houses that were lived in by rich men who had as many as thirty servants to look after them. These rich men were called capitalists. They were fat, ugly men with wicked faces, like the one in the picture on the opposite page. You can see that he is dressed in a long black coat which was called a frock coat, and a queer, shiny hat shaped like a stovepipe, which was called a top hat. This was the uniform of the capitalists, and no one else was allowed to wear it. The capitalists owned everything in the world, and everyone else was their slave. They owned all the land, all the houses, all the factories, and all the money. If anyone disobeyed them they could throw them into prison, or they could take his job away and starve him to death. When any ordinary person spoke to a capitalist he had to cringe and bow to him, and take off his cap and address him as 'Sir'. The chief of all the capitalists was called the King, and --

Let's go guys, a bravo to the first who identifies title & author

[Jordi]

A little help: it was written in 1948.

[Stultis]

The paradox has to do with the might be called the "democratization" of corruption, or what might also be termed the increasing "transparency" of corruption. Corruption used to be a function of backroom deals (still is in some of the big cities, e.g. Houston, TX) but now much of it is out in the open. Tranfer payments, for instance, are such a commonplace that no one thinks twice of the myriad of special priveleges, or tax moneys, that are rountinely awarded soley on the basis of ones race, marital status, other condition (e.g. low interest loans for first time home buyers), occupation (protection for the steel industry, diary farmers), regional location, etc. Instead of being worked out "off the books" in the smokey back room, all this crap is on the books, right out in the open. That's why there are so many laws.

[Jordi]

Well, it's "1984" by George Orwell. Another good reading is "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley. They say a lot about political freedom (and repression)

-WAR IS PEACE

-FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

-IGNORANCE IS STRENGHT

Beware who tries to impose you such commandaments...

A note for the few who have read 1984...the description of the "Big Brother" is incredibly similar to that of Saddam!!

[HIDEK6]

I guess I got sharpshot. In context, I thought it was clear that I was talking about legal career choices.

[varon]

I was hoping the “winky face” ;-) was a dead giveaway that I was speaking in jest.