Posted on 08/28/2002 12:27:14 AM PDT by rmmcdaniell
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:08:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
And what penalty would you support for treason against the Constitution of the United States? I'd say that's a higher crime than smoking a joint, so accordingly should carry a higher penalty. Should it be death by hanging or firing squad for those who wish to undermine the Freedoms and Liberties guaranteed to us through the Supreme Law of the Land?
America Is Under Siege!
Forwarded message:
From: apta@discover.net (Douglas Walker)
To: snetnews@world.std.com (snetnews)
Date: 97-03-13 10:36:31 EST
The following comments have been done very well. I have contacted Ron Paul's (R-TX) office in Washington, and have found he has a strong following throughout the U.S. Contact his office and give your support too. --Doug
By Andrew Arnold for Spotlight.
A Texas congressman was outraged when Rep. Ron Paul told a national audience he was afraid the government may attack him, too.
Unlike most in Congress, Texas Republican Ron Paul came to Washington this year with a well deserved record as a straight shooter. Be it the Federal Reserve, money system or an out of control Federal government, no issue is too hot for the populist lawmaker.
Washington watchers shouldn't have been surprised when Paul said he, like many Americans, feared an out of control government might attack him.
"I fear, and there's a lot of people in this country who fear, that they may be bombed by the federal government at another Waco," Paul said on C-SPAN February 26, "I mean [the Branch Davidians] committed no crimes."
Democrates in general and Rep. Chet Edwards (D-Texas) whose district includes Waco, were quick to label Paul a "right-wing extremist."
Edwards' comments came on the House floor. He verbally attacked Paul by name, saying his fellow Texan was guilty of "sheer lunacy, at best."
"Let me just say what the facts were," Edwards added. "The facts were that David Koresh raped a 10-year-old girl. We heard the dramatic testimony of that girl, now 14, just a few months ago in the halls of this House."
The congressman seems to have forgotten that a Clinton administration official, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, asked Rep. Bill Brewster (R-Okla.), the chairman of the House subcommittee that investigated Waco, to take it easy on the BATF.
The 14-year-old "victim" who testified, Kiri Jewell, is also suspect.
Rep. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) brought Jewell in for the television cameras to testify, in graphic detail, how she had been sexually molested by Koresh.
But according to British reports, the girl was lying. Scribe Ambrose Evans-Pritchard discovered that Jewell was not in Texas when the alleged abuses took place.
"She was living with her mother and grandmother in California for most of the years in question," Evans-Pritchard says. "Her father, David Jewell, has been promoting her allegations on the TV talk show circuit. He is a man of questionable character."
Obviously not one to let the facts get in the way of a good story, Edwards continued his attack on Paul in particular and "right-wing extremists" in general.
"Fact: the federal officials who went into that compound found 48 illegal machine guns and illegal hand grenades. I would suggest rape, arson, and murder are a crime in the book of every American family, it is not a crime in the book of [Paul]," the Texas Democrat said.
According to Paul's spokesman, Edwards missed the forest for the trees. The real question is why was the federal government involved? "Even if the case can be made that the Branch Davidians had those weapons, that is a local issue," said Michael Sullivan, Paul's press secretary. "If there was a rape, the local police are supposed to handle it."
More than a "right-wing extremist," Paul may be what plutocrats fear most, a member of Congress who understands and believes in the Constitution.
"We don't think of ourselves as 'extremists,' but those who like big government solutions to local problems think of [Paul] as extreme," Sullivan said.
There are dozens of examples of the federal government attempting to enforce local law. Often times these examples end in disaster for Joe Citizen.
Here are a few examples:
1. One of the first cases to bring natonwide attention to the federal government, specifically the IRS, run amok was the Gordon Kahl affair.*
Kahl blamed massive interest rates for costing him his farm. He also refused to pay a tax he considered illegal to a government he considered corrupt.
Feds and local cops planned an ambush outside of Median, North Dakota 14 years ago to quiet Kahl, according to Kahl's lawyer.
When the shooting was done, a pair of federal marshalls were dead, three others were wounded along with Yorie Kahl, Gordon's son. A massive manhunt followed which ended with Kahl and Sheriff Gene Matthews being shot, then burned by federal authorities in Smithville, Arkansas.
2, On October 2, 1992 a milti-jurisdictional task force raided the historic Trail's End Ranch. Authorities claimed Donald P. Scott was raising marijuana.
Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies joined federal Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) agents, National Park Service rangers and California Bureau of Narcotic Enforcement personnel in the raid. Even though the raid occurred in Ventura, County, the county sheriff's department wasn't invited to take part.
Scott, an eccentric millionaire, was asleep with his wife when the party heard a banging on the door. He opted not to answer. As his wife Frances Plante, prepared to open the door, authorities knocked it in and threw her against the wall.
When Scott saw what was going on, he entered the room with a revolver.
He was ordered to put the gun down. Scott lowered it in what authorities considered to be a threatening fashion. He was felled by a trio of rounds that hit him in the upper torso.
Law enforcement authorities found no marijuana on the property. Oops.
A Ventura County District Attorney's Office found that the raid was motivated by the desire of the sherriff's office to seize Scott's ranch under federal asset-forfeiture laws.
3. A few months earlier, August 25, another California man was the victim of a federal attack.
DEA agents kicked in Donald Carlson's door a few minutes after midnight. Carlson heard the noise and called 911. Next, he reached for his handgun.
DEA agents riddled him with bullets. He was in intensive care for seven months and miraculously lives. No drugs were found.
4. Last summer, officials from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service raided a couple in Fort Davis, Texas.
Terry Taylor, an entomologist, had a business which imported and exported dead bugs to universities, scientists and collectors. It seems the feds thought the Taylors might be acting in violation of the Endangered Species Act.
While the couple was at a funeral, federal agents raided their home, seizing every piece of paper, every record and the computer. A federal court then sealed the files.
The government may have thought the Taylors had bugs on the endangered species list, but all of their bugs were dead on arrival. Of course, the feds have refused to talk to the press or the Taylors about the case.
5. In 1994, Red and Erlene Beckman were thrown off their 15-acre ranch after the IRS placed a lien on the property.
Their house was bulldozed.
The American Patriot Fax Network (APEN) found the action peculiar. "Let us suppose that the IRS lien was in fact valid," APFN wrote. "If so then they would presumably want to sell the property for the most value, would they not? That would mean that they would not raze a dwelling which added value to the property."
6. Also in 1994, BATF agents raided the home of Monique Montgomery at four in the morning.
A startled Montgomery reached for a gun, was shot four times and killed. Nothing illegal was found.
7. On January 16, 1997, Maynard Campbell was murdered in the "maximum security" federal prison in Florence, Colorado.
Campbell had been sentenced to 13 years for cutting lumber on federal lands. He said he had a legal right to the trees through a mining patent that he held on the land. The feds disagreed and sent him to jail where he died.
8. On December 5, 1996, the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) announced a proposal to "stop vehicles; search any person, place or vehicle without warrant or process; seize without warrant or process any piece of evidence; and make arrests without warrant or process" on private land adjacent to or water bodies upstream from BLM land.
9. The most blatant example of government abuse may be in the form of the Oklahoma City bombing.
Just recently local judges gave Oklahoma state Rep. Charles Key (R) the go ahead to garner signatures to have a grand jury impaneled to hear all the evidence surrounding the bombing.
Many investigators claim the federal government has used Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols as fall guys for a failed "sting" plot the feds prepared but which got out of control. Once all the evidence is out, many suspect the government will be implicated whether directly or indirectly.
The alternative media, spearheaded by the Spotlight and Radio Free America, has been filled with expert testimony explaining why bombs must have been planted inside the Murrah building and how a primitive oil and fertilizer bomb could not have done the type of damage that happened in Oklahoma City.*
SOMEONE SHOULD TELL EDWARDS WHY AMERICANS ARE AFRAID OF THE GOVERNMENT.
The BATF
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The following taken from The Course: The Journal of the Second American
Revolution. I encourage you to read it. If you need a copy or need
to know where you can get it, mail me.
-=-
Heavy-handed raids and abuses against law-abiding citizens, harassment of
gun dealers, and the illegal computerization of out-of-business FFL dealer
records are hallmarks of this rogue federal agency.
Ask Harry and Theresa Lumplugh. This past Summer, 15 to 20 armed men
burst into their rural Pennsylvania home. The family cooperates -- opening
safes, handing over papers -- but cooperation doesn't ease the intruders'
wrath. One holds a submachine gun in their faces. Another utters a racial
slur. One empties vial after vial of cancer medicine and crushes it on the
bathroom floor. Another stomps a pet cat to death.
Who are these intruders?
Ask 21-year old Monique Montgomery. Four masked men break into her
bedroom at four in the morning. The glaring lights and the timing of the
hit are meant to maximize Monique's disorientation as she wakes from a deep
sleep. And wake she does, pulling a gun for self-defense, but the
intruders already have their guns drawn and let her have it -- four shots,
four direct hits.
Who are these intruders?
Ask Louie Katona II of Ohio -- successful businessman, civic leader,
part-time cop, family man, model American. One intruder pushes wife
Kimberly against a wall. Kimberly begins bleeding and later miscarries.
Who are these armed terrorists?
Not a gang of neighborhood toughs. They're agents of the Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, and the incidents described above are not
exceptions, but recent examples of the brute force of unchecked, renegade
federal power. Who are the victims? People who've broken no law, in homes
where nothing illegal is found.
The terror often comes at the hands of BATF agents clad in ninja
blacks, but the terror doesn't stop there. Even the desk jockeys in the
licensing part of the agency get in their licks.
Bend to BATF's politics -- or get broken.
BATF visits Randy Engelken, a gun-store owner in Seneca, Kansas, and
photocopies any transaction record involving the purchase of military-style
semi-automatic firearms. Why just those firearms? The agent comments on
Randy's political activism -- namely his vocal opposition to U.S. Rep. Jim
Slattery (defeated last fall). In a style that would make the KGB proud,
the BATF agent tells Randy: "If you don't lay off Congressman Slattery, you
wont have a firearms license."
Surrender your license -- or surrender your reputation.
BATF is committed to driving down the number of Federal Firearms
License (FFL) holders to drive down lawful gun ownership. And they'll do
it any way they can. A typical case: BATF raises the zoning issue by
contacting a Pennsylvania township directly, informing officials that a
resident with an FFL is conducting retail sales in the township. BATF also
speaks directly with a supplier to the dealer, suggesting that the dealer
was lying about being a federal agent. The agent also goes to the dealer's
supervisor, demeaning his reputation. In fact, no crime was committed by
the dealer -- who was and remains a special agent with the U.S. Department
of Justice Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) -- a law
enforcement professional with 25 years experience.
They ban whatever they can -- whenever they can.
Ignore the fine print in the '94 Clinton Gun Ban that some firearms are
"protected," because BATF ignores it. Forget the fact that the 1860 Henry
lever-action was listed as protected, because, for months, BATF banned it's
importation -- considering the cowboy rifle an "assault weapon."
And now they've got your name -- and your number!
On February 15, 1995, at a hearing of the House Appropriation
Subcommittee on Treasury, Postal Service and General Government, officials
of the Treasury Department and BATF admitted that all the records of
firearms transactions between U.S. citizens and out-of-business dealers are
being entered into a centralized registration system under the control of
BATF. Throughout history, registration has always been a precursor to
harassment, a stepping stone to gun confiscation. Recognizing this, the
U.S. Congress has spoken clearly and distinctly over the last three
decades: no money, no people and no administrative expenses can ever be
used to register firearms, firearms owners or firearm transactions.
Period.
But BATF is not listening. They're copying, collating and
computerizing (see Knox's Notebook, P14) -- while their agents in the field
are harassing, intimidating and hurting honest citizens.
It must stop -- and it can! Call your U.S. representative and U.S.
senators at (202)224-3121, and do it now. Tell them it's time to either
abolish this rogue agency -- or take immediate steps to (1) regain control,
(2) expose and prosecute government agents and officials guilty of civil
rights abuses and (3) institute strict policies and oversight to insure
that the Bill of Rights is honored, not condemned.
Time For Congress to Rein in BATF
American Rifleman
April 1995
Reprinted without permission (But I don't think they will mind)
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SINA BRUSH
Just after dawn on September 5, 1991 some sixty agents
from the DEA, U.S. Forest Service, Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco and Firearms (BATF), and National Guard, complete
with painted faces and camouflage and accompanied by another
twenty or more National Guard troops with a light armored
vehicle, raided the homes of Sina Brush and two of her
neighbors near Montainair, New Mexico. Brush and her
daughter were still asleep. Hearing noises outside, Ms.
Brush got up and was only halfway across the room, when the
door was kicked in by the agents. Clad only in their
underwear, Ms. Brush and her daughter were handcuffed and
forced to kneel in the middle of the room while the agents
searched the house. No drugs were found. Just as in the
Carlson case, the police had obtained a warrant using
information furnished by an unreliable informant and had
entered Brush's home without knocking first.
WACO
This most notorious case has stunned the sensibilities
of millions of Americans. According to The Wall Street
Journal, "...the BATF showed up at the Davidian compound
with two cattle trucks full of agents in battle gear and a
plan for 'dynamic entry'." The siege that followed the
initial assault included terrifying, psychological warfare
tactics and ended when a second attack, utilizing tanks and
gas, led to conflagration. "Weird cultists" (your words)?
Some of the adults, but certainly not the children.
For two years now, thousands of calls and letters of outrage
have been received by government, the media and yes, the
NRA. The cries of "thugs", "Nazi" and "storm trooper" came
first, not from the NRA, but from the minds and mouths of
Americans describing what they had seen on television.
RANDY WEAVER
This debacle at Ruby Ridge continues to fan a seething
backlash in the country. A fourteen year old boy was shot
in the back and killed. A mother was shot by a sniper in
the head and killed while holding a baby. A jury found BATF
guilty of entrapment and the defendant was acquitted. How
does it all add up to justifiable behavior by, once again,
black shrouded forces with armored personnel carriers,
helicopters and snipers all arrayed against a family in a
cabin? Hundreds of good people have told me that scene
reminds them of what this country once fought against and
should never stand for.
JANICE HART
PORTLAND, OREGON
FEBRUARY 1993
Janice Hart pulled up to her house from grocery
shopping with her daughters to find her house being
ransacked by ATF agents who had kicked in the door. Agents
searched her home, throwing dishes, pulling clothing from
hangers and emptying drawers on the floor (she photographed
the damage). Some eight ATF agents interrogated her in the
basement for an hour before reading her rights. She
asked to call an attorney and the agents refused. When they
finally asked her if she was Janice Marie Harrell, she told
them no, that she was Janice Hart. ATF agents mocked her,
accused her of selling firearms and cocaine, then arrested
her. The Portland Police, who she commended for their
professional demeanor, took her downtown for booking and,
within thirty seconds of fingerprinting her, realized ATF
had the wrong person.
LOUIS KATONA
BUCYRUS, OHIO
Louis Katona is a police officer in Bucyrus, Ohio.
When shouting and cursing BATF agents rushed into his home
to seize his firearms collection, they grabbed his pregnant
wife, Kim, and shoved her into a wall. Within days, she
suffered a miscarriage. A federal judge threw the
government's case out of court and ordered BATF to
immediately return Mr. Katona's guns or face jail
themselves. The Katonas are presently pressing civil
charges against BATF.
The above incidents are true. For more information, read The Course.
-=-
All of the following stories and much more can be found in the July, 1993,
issue of _The Freeman_.
1) In 1990 in California, dozens of legitimate agricultural supply
houses and mail order businesses were seized because the DEA claimed they
might have unwittingly sold supplies to marijuana growers. Both the
DEA and California courts considered the merchants' lack of control over
how their grow lights and fertilizer might be used to be irrelevant.
2) In December, 1988, Detroit police raided a grocery store to make a
drug arrest, but failed to find any drugs. After police dogs
reacted to three $1 bills in the cash register, the police seized the entire
contents of the cash register and a store safe totaling $4,384. No charge
was ever made.
3) In 1989, police stopped 49 year-old Ethel Hylton at the Houston
airport and told her she was under arrest because a drug dog had
scratched at her luggage. Agents searched her bags and strip-searched
her, but they found no drugs. They did find $39,110 in cash that she
had received from an insurance settlement and from her life savings.
Ethyl Hilton completely documented where she got the money and was
never charged with a crime. The police kept her money anyway. As
far as I know, she still hasn't gotten it back.
4) Willie Jones owned a small landscaping business in Nashville.
When he paid cash for an airline ticket, the ticket agent acted strangely.
Ten minutes later, drug agents stopped and searched him. They found
$9,600 in cash, which he was planning to use to buy plants for his business.
He explained that he paid in cash because that was the way the growers
wanted it. That didn't stop the agents from taking his money.
Willie Jones was never charged with any crime.
5) Dr. Jonathan Wright operated the Takoma Medical Clinic in Kent,
Washington. On May 6, 1992, two dozen armed FDA agents broke
down the door and held the 15-person staff, mostly women, at
gunpoint for 14 hours while they ransacked the clinic. The FDA
seized Dr. Wright's books, laboratory equipment, supplies, patient
records, reference books, and computers. The raid was part of the
FDA's crackdown on nutritional therapists. No one was charged with
a crime.
6) In 1992, heavily armed men burst into a house in Oakdale, CA, and
pinned 64-year-old retired ranch foreman William Hauselmann to the
floor, bruising his back and cutting his face. They also held his
61-year-old wife at gunpoint on the bathroom floor while they ransacked
the house. They were acting on a tip that they admitted "proved to be
180 degrees wrong."
7) On August 25, 1992, the US Customs Service and DEA raided the
house of Donald Carlson. Without announcing who they were, they
began battering down the door. Carlson awoke and thought he was
being robbed, so he armed himself. The agents smashed down the door
and lobbed a concussion grenade. There was an exchange of fire,
Carson was hit 3 times, and he spent six weeks hooked to a ventilator
in intensive care. The agents found no drugs. They had been acting
on a tip from an informant known only as "Ron" who had been kicked out
of an anti-drug program because his reports lacked truthfulness.
8) On October 2, 1992, a drug task force composed of LA police,
sheriff's deputies, DEA, National Park personnel, and National Guard troops
burst into the home of Donald Scott and shot him dead. The agents said
they were looking for marijuana, but found none. The following March 30,
the Ventura County District Attorney released a report disclosing that
the real reason for the raid was because the government wanted Scott's
200-acre ranch as part of its expansion plans for the Santa Monica
National Recreation Area. Scott had refused to sell, so they made
him an offer he couldn't refuse. The ranch was seized under federal
forfeiture laws.
-=-
Its time for change in this country. For those that believe the government
controls the agencies under it, think again. Rogue agencies do exist.
MIBs (Men in Black) do exist. No one truly holds their leash.
DisordeR
special thanks to: Will Spencer aka Voyager
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Thanks. I'm sure that if VA Advogado had it his way, THAT would be a felony worthy of a death sentence as well...
"Do you think the drug dealing will stop now?The population of Dover, NH is approx. 26,000 - a mid-sized city by NH standards. I'll wager that once the authorities take possession of this dorm, drug dealing on and from the premises will cease completely. I'll also bet that this Culinary Academy pays closer attention to drug dealing by their students in the future.
What do you do if it doesnt?"
Those defending drug dealing are suggesting that it's fine to sell Ecstasy, Valium and Zoloft to elementary and high school kids. That does nothing to further a drug legalization argument.
Seems to be required reading for "public servants" these days..
Who exactly is "defending drug dealing"? And how is it that if these college kids were in fact selling drugs to other college kids that it would somehow equate to it'd be "fine to sell Ecstasy, Valium and Zoloft to elementary and high school kids"?
The MAJOR problem here is the out of control use of force in situations where it is totally unwarranted. Another MAJOR problem is the reckless and wanton manner in which those who push for this war against the People violate the Principles of our Nation, respecting neither Constitutional safegaurds or the very concept of freedom and liberty upon which this Nation was founded.
Innocent people are senselessly murdered by these supposed guardians of our "public safety", yet those crimes go unpunished. Where is justice, where is law and order, and where is our freedom?
| McIntosh College crime spurs meeting By BRAD MORIN, Democrat Staff Writer DOVER, NH, June 24 - The Police Department and McIntosh College are working toward a solution for disciplinary problems at student housing. |
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Chief William Fenniman and McIntosh College President David McGuire will meet Tuesday to discuss the matter. Earlier this month, Fenniman publicly criticized the situation in student housing: Police responded to 180 calls for service at the Silver Street dormitory in the past year and Fenniman said there have been several drug arrests and even reports of sexual assaults. Fenniman said some of the options being discussed were having a police officer assigned as a liaison to the school. In response to Fenniman's earlier comments, the school had issued a statement saying it has "redoubled its efforts" to assure appropriate student behavior on campus. Fenniman said police have found that some of the students were on probation or parole for serious offenses in other states, but an interstate compact system allowed them to be monitored by New Hampshire corrections officials. Corrections officials look carefully at each out-of-state application and some are rejected, he said. "Obviously we are looking at each on a case-by-case basis," Lyons said. One of the school's disciplinary issues started a federal civil rights investigation. Five black students were expelled from the culinary program in February after allegedly beating up a fellow student. Three of the students later told the Portsmouth Herald that they believe the school violated their rights when it expelled them without a hearing, gave them money for a bus ticket and sent them packing. The local chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People met with McIntosh College officials and said it agreed with the action taken. Police even drafted an arrest warrant for one of the alleged attackers. But the U.S. Department of Education has its own investigation that is currently open, according to spokesman Rodger Murphey. "The allegation is that the school took disciplinary action against students in a discriminatory manner," Murphey said. |
When you have a small penis you have to over compensate somehow . . . sheeesh . . .
No way! This is seriously the best bong list I've ever been included in. You are so kind as to not make me go searching around for this stuff. Phil was uptight, probably needed to smoke a little weed (ala Bill Hicks). I hope you didn't take that personally. :-)
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