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BadJoe/JimRob Dispute Ended - Free Republic Train Wreck Derailed
Free Republic | August 26, 2002 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/26/2002 7:21:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: ArneFufkin
This forum is overwhelmingly driven by a negative, destructive energy. Set the Canteen and dose threads aside, and any jaunt through the discourse here will reveal a prevailing mojo that is antisocial, anti-state, anti-immigration, anti-Bush, anti-GOP, anti-markets, anti-world, Anti-authority, and anti-responsibility.

Are you fantasizing about posting on DU or do you believe this ridiculous stuff?

381 posted on 08/30/2002 7:07:58 PM PDT by zip
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To: Jim Robinson
Glad to see your missive. 'Pod
382 posted on 08/30/2002 9:08:10 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: zip
Are you fantasizing about posting on DU or do you believe this ridiculous stuff?

I'm fantasizing about Helen Thomas changing 'Nsync from boys to men on the backstreet, but ... you really think DU would let me post?

What if Julianne Malveaux is there? Lap alert, fire down below! Down boy!

DRUDGE RED SIREN TO ZIP!

Breaking hard from inside sources: Wake up Zip.

Find someone on this forum who is FOR something specific, be it program or policy to address all that they fear and loathe. Case intelligence.

We're called Bushbots. We support stuff, and we are solution oriented. JFYI, I'm also known as AdolfFufkin, Socialist race baiter, Marxist, liberal scum, Fascist, jackboot and bootlicker of said boot, Nazi, lemming, Kool Aid Drinker, douchebag, statist, Quaker, homeboy, Boy Wonder ... and someone said I was "Kung Fu fighting, that my fists were fast as lightning, and I was a little bit frightning cuz I kicked with expert timing."

I don't know about that last one, but I like Cherry Kool Aid.

383 posted on 08/31/2002 8:51:34 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: zip; Billie; doug from upland
Also, I am ever intrigued by folks who say "I'm a lurker since 1998" and register in November 2000. Didn't you want to yap first time you saw this place?

My first time visiting here, I saw a thread where Doug From Upland was serving an eviction notice on the White House, and Billie posted an animation GIF of a chimpanzee jumping up and down with the comment to the Forum gadfly: "Ash, your mama's calling!" I had to get a piece of that action! Lurk SHMERK!!

I also posted twice, and the CHIEF told me my comment was actually more intelligible the second time! Why I oughta .... he was cool that way, he helped the newbies.

384 posted on 08/31/2002 9:09:52 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
That's FR today. The cyberspace equivalent of the "Island of Dr. Moreau."


"We alone are the true humans!
The moderators are initiating force!
We demand the freedom to be uncivilized!"

385 posted on 08/31/2002 9:12:05 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
By the rules of the ADA, does the guy with two faces and one eyebrow rank ahead of the woman (nice figure) who has an elephantine trunk and eats bark? Well, bed and peanut eating ...

Man, and that's the Prom King and Queen .... shwoooo ...

It's sausage, politics and true patriots .... a puzzle best left unsolved.

386 posted on 08/31/2002 9:35:29 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
I am going to start pinging you to the threads that I frequent. My current interest is the military strategy involved in the build-up around Iran and Iraq, coupled with attendant diplomatic maneuvers in Russia. There is a lot of fascinating stuff going on, but you have to wade through some junk to find it.

Also, several of us have been following the activities of the DOJ and other agencies in apprehending terrorists cells and shutting down sources of money going overseas.

Also of interest are Liz and Fracas's posts concerning the ties between the different crooked Wall Street firms, Clinton, and Rubin, if you like financial investigation.

But I agree with you that there are far too many negative posts which would drive first-time visitors away. Maybe that is the plan by some of these people....who knows?

387 posted on 08/31/2002 10:06:59 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: ArneFufkin
Wow. Thanks for sharing that anecdote with me.
388 posted on 08/31/2002 11:06:15 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Doug, when you go WAY LONG FROM NOW ... you can waltz into the next world knowing that you conceived and executed one the great capers of all time.

That was SWEET! Evicting the Clintons. Yep!

389 posted on 08/31/2002 1:57:17 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Miss Marple
Thanks MM!

We're at war. And, the enemy is not the Office of Homeland Security.

That irks me.

Let's get serious here. We have mass murderers in our midst. Today. If they live in Detroit and somehow got their paws on VX gas, they'd kill everyone in Detroit.

If they knew MM, that they could slit your throat, or my throat without compromising the bigger mission, we're toast.

That's where we are at, it requires a serious approach. We need to find these guys, and neutralize them. We need to infiltrate Mosques that are providing funds and shelter to our enemies. It's not the MEXICANS that are plotting our mass genocide, but Erik Estrada is working hard.

I want people to grow up. There is no way that some of the convos that occur here could ever be conducted at a bar, family event or business meeting. The participants would be justifiably avoided and marginalized.

Miss Marple, it is a subject of great levity among my friends and family that I am considered a Socialist, bootlicking statist. They all go "holy sheet". I'm considered the conservative voice of infotainment and expertise among my crew. I laughingly tell them "I was called a Communist race baiter and a Democrat shill today", and they laugh ... "Who's running that place, Heinriich Himmler?"

That is the reference point of where FR is these days. Good conservative Republican supporters are being called lemmings, apologists, marxists ... whatever. It's ridiculous. I don't apologize for George W. Bush. I don't take his daily political calculus as a referendum of how he values me. I don't like some of his policies, but most ... I have no fricking clue. I don't have the info he does. So I trust his judgement and integrity. I'm sanguine on that regard. He's a man of history, he's going to be considered great IMO. Who gives a sheet about CFR?

I don't get this place, I guess. You don't like the GOP, that's cool, what's your alternative? You don't like our illegal immigration landscape ... I don't either. What's the plan? Announcing your resignation from the GOP and George W. Bush is goofy. Showing keen insight of the prevailing facts and impacts of any situation or political policy action is the easy part.

I've got all the answers, believe me! ;^) I don't even know what the questions are!

390 posted on 08/31/2002 2:23:08 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Miss Marple
MM, George Gilder conducted a fascinating interview with Robert Bork in this summer's American Spectator.

Bork summed up what I have presented to a less than enthusiastic gallery here. Gilder asked him about the tradeoffs we may need to make in order to battle the forces of terrorism here at home:

Bork: I don't worry about the imminent loss of our civil liberties. Terrorism is going to be much worse than it is now, and it's going to go on for a long time. I'm afraid we're going to have to live in ways that we didn't like in the past. That doesn't mean democracy is gone. Look at Israel - they have the tightest controls over a lot of things, but they're still a functioning democracy. We can do the same. We may have to give up some of our privacy and other things and have identification cards and so forth. But if tht's the kind of war we're in, thse are the kinds of things we're going to have to do. It' s going to happen. If terrorism is not stopped,, and they get nuclear devices and take out some of our major cities, then you will see chaos. If they could hit 20 cities simultaneously, civilization would damn near be gone in this countryl Compared with these dangers, the restrictions on our liberties or on our privacy are trivial. That doesn't mean we should not be alert to see that government does not go unnecessarily far. But so far it hasn't, and I see no signs that it will." Robert Bork, American Spectator, page 41 June-July 2002.

Now ... that's a serious assessment by a solid Conservative that only FR True Patriots and Real FR Conservatives could rightfully label a Bushbot and DU disruptor.

391 posted on 08/31/2002 2:56:34 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Thanks for the Bork quote, Arne. Some days I feel like I am being forced into the moderate camp, even though I am also the most conservative person in my family.

I don't have your gift of humor, but I certainly share your position. I also think Bush will be regarded as a great president.

I have expected from September 11 that we were going to be facing a far fiercer war than people realized even on that day. Here, almost a year later, we have people squabbling over farm subsidies and volunteer programs. We were told by President Bush that this was a long war for civiilization, and that many things would be unseen. And yet, on this forum, I read people saying that "Bush hasn't done anything" and "All our rights are being taken away" and "What has Bush done for conservatives lately" (the latter being my personal example of self-centeredness in the midst of the great crisis of our generation).

I don't know why people are this way. I do not run into people like this in the general public at all. Some days I feel like I have been dropped into an alternate universe.

Well, I am not letting those types of comments dissuade me from my support of the administration, which is made up of a group of fine people unequalled in my lifetime. In my opinion, the nay-sayers here are either chronic critics and irrelevant, or democrats here to spread distrust and division, as well as give the impression to the lurking media that Bush is losing support.

Do not some of these people sound the same on every thread, as if they have a pamphlet with helpful tips on how to sound conservative? That is my tin-foil theory for the day. Ha!

392 posted on 08/31/2002 3:17:52 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: ArneFufkin
Thanks for the quote by Bork... Do you have a link to it? I can't find the article on their web site. They have the issue listed....
393 posted on 08/31/2002 3:24:03 PM PDT by deport
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To: ArneFufkin
Hello fellow old timer. Nice posts.
394 posted on 08/31/2002 3:29:50 PM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: deport
I watched all the afternoon commercials this week, and you know, I typed it just like those professional court reporters do!

I transcribed it from the magazine. Just because I'm a customer service kind of guy. It is a monster discussion between George Gilder and Robert Bork. It's like A+Bert and Buckaroo: the irresistable force meets in immovable object. As Don King would say "SOMEPIN GOTTA GIVE!" Gilder is an optimist of wonderful wit and acumen - Bork is a lawyer, he looks at lawyers and is understanably depressed.

They had a good scrum over the Microsoft suit, Bork was one of the plaintiff attorneys. I think Gilder smoked him, but I'm biased on that too. Gilder is one of the smartest individuals alive IMO, and he's a pro-technology, pro-American and upbeat visionary. He's got our future nailed, I think, and it rocks steady.

Bork and Scalia served on the same Court of Appeals bench, and Bork shares his major difference: Bork says "F it" to BAD precedent. He sadly says that the great flaw of Conservative Jurists is their loyalty to precedent - even if the precedent is rancid. That is true in my opinion, and that's why Bork was considered such a threat to the evil lefties. Overturning Roe v. Wade ... or any case that was founded on bogus law and process ... Bork's game. Scalia isn't. That's bad.

TAS has always been very frugal about sharing their content with the unpaying masses. But, Gilder and Bork is a great interview deport, and the smart asses led by Mr. Tyrell are back at the helm at that mag. No more Spy meets Red Herring meets the Nation. RET and Vlad Alphabet are bafck where they belong, and absolutely "Bobbiting" the usual suspects, especially David "I was lying then, I'm truthful now" Brock.

395 posted on 08/31/2002 3:45:49 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: wattsmag2
Regards sir!
396 posted on 08/31/2002 3:48:26 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
He sadly says that the great flaw of Conservative Jurists is their loyalty to precedent ...

They also tend to go statist for some reason. Clarence Thomas is a pleasant surprise. I forget what it was he decented on recently, but he broke from Renquist and Scalia on a recent ruling .... I remember thinking "good job".

I think at this pont, he's my favorite justice.

397 posted on 08/31/2002 3:54:24 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Jim Robinson
Gerat news but were is the "smokeybackroom" forum?
398 posted on 08/31/2002 4:05:21 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: Miss Marple
The bottom line is that there were approximately 48 million, 500 thousand Americans who voted for George W. Bush who have never registered here at FR.

68% of our citizens support him. That indicates a winning of support from people who didn't vote, or didn't vote for him.

FR is not real world. Bush was not supported, by majority of sentiment here on FR, before he was elected in 2000. Claims to the contrary are DOA.

Fine. Who cares? Except, now Bush was supported by 90-95% of Freepers who are since betrayed and disillusioned beyond human endurance.

Our President is not going to bring a glass of warm milk and a cookie to me. He's working on a level of context that I can't judge. I judge him as a man. All good.

We have exactly 3,274 Freepers who are the "last honest man or woman" on Earth. Diogenes couldn't walk 2 feet without finding another pristine idol around here. Cheers!

399 posted on 08/31/2002 4:08:17 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: AAABEST
Thomas is a writer, he rarely speaks in Chamber. Scalia, Kennedy and Breyer think they're John Hausman in the "Paper Chase", Clarence doesn't have to yakk.

The man is solid as a rock, he fears no criticism, he is clear and focused and principled and I agree with you totally. It's amusing to watch the media dance around criticism of his judicial philisophy - "ok folks, here's a black guy we hate, how do we handle THIS???"

400 posted on 08/31/2002 4:18:07 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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