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Milosevic Trial Resumes
NYT ^ | 8/25/02 | MARLISE SIMONS

Posted on 08/26/2002 5:49:50 AM PDT by Ranger

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To: andy_card
May 14, 1999

sure enough your "eyewitnesses" are all KLA. The fact of the matter the village was a loyalist-moderate village which apparently refused to support KLA. One can infer that the menfolk ran afoul of KLA press gang. Recall that at Racak the KLA gang pressed some 60 elderly men into "fighting".

stop getting your information from liberal sources and perhaps you start seeing the full picture.

21 posted on 08/26/2002 12:07:38 PM PDT by vooch
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To: vooch
sure enough your "eyewitnesses" are all KLA.

Not at all. Three of them were ordinary villagers shot by the Serbs who managed, nonetheless, to survive. And Serbs responsible have confessed to the crime. Do you really want me to post photos of the bodies, or of Serb police standing triumphantly in front of the burning buildings?

stop getting your information from liberal sources and perhaps you start seeing the full picture

Liberal sources? This isn't a liberal-conservative issue. And btw, I'm normally very much pro-Serb when it comes to the Balkans.

22 posted on 08/26/2002 12:22:34 PM PDT by andy_card
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To: vooch; DTA; SANDNES
Milosevic represents the worst the Europeans have to offer. The world and certainly Europe is better off with him out of power and in jail. You shouldn't waste your breath and ample intelligence on this evil little man.
23 posted on 08/26/2002 12:23:12 PM PDT by Ranger
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To: vooch
stop getting your information from liberal sources and perhaps you start seeing the full picture

Oh, and I'm waiting for your attempt to portray hardline Communist Slobodan Milosevic as a conservative hero.

24 posted on 08/26/2002 12:23:50 PM PDT by andy_card
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To: Ranger; Destro
Ranger

It may have been possible to remain deluded about the KLA and Bosnian Jihadists prior to 9-11, but ever since then it is impossible to fathom why anyone would continue defending the likes of Agim Ceku and Rustem Mustafa.........why do you continue to defend the KLA after all the post 9/11 evidence about them ?

27 posted on 08/26/2002 12:54:47 PM PDT by vooch
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To: andy_card
are you trying to tell us that the KLA didn't operate press gangs ? that the KLA didn't execute civilians ? that post-Clinton Kfor hasn't arrested virtually the entire KLA leadership cadre for crimes agianst Albanians ?

when will you accept as had Kfor that it was the KLA which did the killing in Kosovo ?

28 posted on 08/26/2002 12:57:44 PM PDT by vooch
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To: vooch
are you trying to tell us that the KLA didn't operate press gangs ?

Have you read any of my posts on this thread? I seriously doubt it, since if you had, you'd know that I have consistently attacked the KLA.

29 posted on 08/26/2002 1:02:30 PM PDT by andy_card
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To: andy_card
Milosevic committed war crimes, and is justly being tried for them.

Milosevic is guilty of trying to protect his nation and people from barbarians and that's about it. The genesis of the most recent problems in Kosovo was Milosevic's rescinding of the autonomy of the region in 89. He had no options; every other ethnic group in Kosovo was being brutalized by the albanians.

European forensics teams walked out of Kosovo in disgust after finding a few corpses which appeared to have died natural deaths in places where the clintonistas had claimed hundreds of billions of genocide victims would be found.

30 posted on 08/26/2002 1:09:20 PM PDT by medved
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To: medved
Milosevic is guilty of trying to protect his nation and people from barbarians and that's about it.

I have no problem with his actions to fight the Croats and the KLA. But massacring civilians? Unacceptable.

European forensics teams walked out of Kosovo in disgust after finding a few corpses which appeared to have died natural deaths in places where the clintonistas had claimed hundreds of billions of genocide victims would be found

What are you talking about?

31 posted on 08/26/2002 1:14:04 PM PDT by andy_card
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To: andy_card
>>>>What are you talking about?<<<

If I can add, perhaps about this

Every single NATO lie will haunt those who lied through the teeth about "genocide".

One attack on U.S. personnel with casualties and all those who suppoerted and still support KLA will become accesories to the crime. Think about it.

32 posted on 08/26/2002 2:00:00 PM PDT by DTA
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To: andy_card
You are missing a vital fact here. This all took place within Serbia where the KLA had been murdering policemen and civilians for many years in a bid to annex territory. You make it sound like this was two sides of a war. This was a terrorist group trying to separate territory from a sovereign nation.

If this happened in any country the government would react probably more aggressively than Milosevic did. Imagine if it happened in America!? The only reason that the KLA has been glamorised is that it served Nato's purpose at the time. The Nato govts before that point were very clear about the KLA and what it was. It is now running most of the drug, people and gun-running routes through Europe (via Kosovo which is no longer multi-ethnic or safe to live for anyone now).

As for posting tales like the one above, some may have been true but most were not. The KLA was acting as Nato's land army and the propaganda was massive. You haven't even provided a link to your specific 'case'. If it's just from the media or hearsay testimony then it means nothing.

33 posted on 08/26/2002 2:01:15 PM PDT by Kate22
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To: DTA
We can quibble about the death toll, if you want, but the fact remains that Serb forces, under the direct command of Milosevic massacred large groups of Kosovar civilians.

One attack on U.S. personnel with casualties and all those who suppoerted and still support KLA will become accesories to the crime.

If you say so. I never supported the KLA.

34 posted on 08/26/2002 2:16:56 PM PDT by andy_card
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To: Kate22
You are missing a vital fact here. This all took place within Serbia where the KLA had been murdering policemen and civilians for many years in a bid to annex territory. You make it sound like this was two sides of a war. This was a terrorist group trying to separate territory from a sovereign nation.

Agreed. And the Serbs were justified in cracking down on the KLA. But they weren't justified in going into villages, lining up all the men and boys against brick walls, and shooting them. Nor were they justified in forcing 800,000 people, mostly civilians, out of their homes and into exile.

The KLA was acting as Nato's land army and the propaganda was massive

Nato and the KLA cooperated, but only because of the old maxim, "my enemy's enemy is my friend." You cannot justly blaim the US for the crimes of the KLA, any more than you can the US for the crimes of Abdulrashid Dostum.

35 posted on 08/26/2002 2:19:40 PM PDT by andy_card
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To: Kate22
. You haven't even provided a link to your specific 'case'. If it's just from the media or hearsay testimony then it means nothing.

I have many links from the media. What kind of evidence would be acceptable? I've already offered to post photos, but I'm worried that they might be too graphic. If you want them anyway, I'll post them or send them in freepmail. Anyway, for a good, if excessively conservative, summary of Milosevic's crimes in Kosovo, read this brief.

36 posted on 08/26/2002 2:22:55 PM PDT by andy_card
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To: andy_card
Milosevic never massacred any civilians. The Stratfor article on the essential nature of the charges against Milosevic and the Serbs is totally reliable; other sources for the same information are not hard to find.

The last thing, and I mean the very last thing I ever want my tax dollars being used for is to bomb some innocent Christian nation into the stone age for the benefit of narco-terrorists, white trash, and barbarians, which is precisely what the clintonistas did in Kosovo.

37 posted on 08/26/2002 2:28:35 PM PDT by medved
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To: medved
Milosevic never massacred any civilians.

Ted, that's patently absurd. But then again, what do you expect from a man who still claims that the Earth once orbited Saturn?The Stratfor article on the essential nature of the charges against Milosevic and the Serbs is totally reliable; other sources for the same information are not hard to find.

The Stratfor article is three years old. Many, many graves have been uncovered since then. And it doesn't even begin to deal with the well-documented crimes committed in Bosnia.

The last thing, and I mean the very last thing I ever want my tax dollars being used for is to bomb some innocent Christian nation into the stone age for the benefit of narco-terrorists, white trash, and barbarians, which is precisely what the clintonistas did in Kosovo.

Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war... Bwahahahaha.

38 posted on 08/26/2002 2:33:50 PM PDT by andy_card
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To: andy_card
You can call for justice for KLA thugs all you want - the, um, opposition here will still label you as a KLA supporter.

It get's back to that black and white thing you were referring to earlier.

These threads are more instructive on the mindset of Milosevic supporters and his foreign auxiliaries than they are on the recent history of the Balkans.

At least that's what my 2 years worth of experience tells me.

39 posted on 08/26/2002 2:38:53 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: andy_card
May 14, 1999, Serb forces entered the village of Cuska, rounded up all the men and boys, and shot them.

All 41 of those listed as having been killed in Cuska were age 19 or above (except one of unknown age) - where are the killed boys you mention?

Also, according to http://www.americanradioworks.org/features/kosovo/cuska/frame_body-part3.html , Cuska had no KLA activity :

Human rights investigators contend massacres like the one in Cuska, in which Serbian forces murdered unarmed civilians who offered no resistance, are textbook examples of war crimes. Yes, Cuska is the home village for the KLA's top commander, Agim Ceku. And Ceku's father was murdered on May 14, but several Serbian fighters say his killing was not the primary aim of the attack. "There's no evidence to suggest that Cuska had any KLA activity whatsoever," says Abrahams. "All of the villagers said that while some of them had been members of the KLA and fought in other areas, Cuska during the war remained quiet."

However, it appears there was reported terrorist activity from the village before the war.

Terrorist provocation in 1999

359. In village Cuska, Pec municipality, on February 5th at 8.25PM, Albanian terrorists opened fire on the policemen.

40 posted on 08/26/2002 2:42:35 PM PDT by joan
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