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The Invasion of Los Angeles
U.S. Census Bureau ^ | 08/24/02 | FreedomFriend

Posted on 08/24/2002 2:37:20 AM PDT by FreedomFriend

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To: Luis Gonzalez
So lets see, Saber mentions one thing about a personal experience, yet you have called me and insinuated that I am a racist, a bigot, a nazi member, a KKK person, and on and on.

I asked you multiple times, to back it up, post one single quote from me that would prove your point! You never did. You couldn't, as it wasn't there.

That is very revealing. Glaring...Your tactics are weak and foul...

921 posted on 08/26/2002 2:37:06 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: tpaine
"What I DO see now is an effort to use the post to make political hay, by a man with a known divisive agenda"

So, do you see Joe and Saber as people with unifying agendas?

The same people who anytime a thread is posted about Hispanics joining the conservative movement, strive to turn that thread into an illegal immigration free-for-all?

922 posted on 08/26/2002 2:38:50 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Joe Hadenuf
ROTFLMAO!!!!

Joe, quotes?

Who needs quotes on you!

I see that you're deperately trying to bail your boy out.

923 posted on 08/26/2002 2:40:55 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Whatever conclusions you reach, are your own."


You bet, Luis, but how droll.
-- Didn't you just do a show on 'biting our own'? -


924 posted on 08/26/2002 2:43:50 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
"As I just said, it's a dirty game being played, imo by both sides."

Yes it is...but everyone is forever accusing me, and those of us who make the claim that racist statements are being leveled y FReepers, as race-baiters.

Well, maybe, just maybe...there's a certain amount of truth to that.

925 posted on 08/26/2002 2:44:07 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Joe Hadenuf; Luis Gonzalez; Sabertooth
Ladies and gentleman, here is a *prime* example of race baiting and clouding this issue with nasty race baiting tactics.

Seems Luis is right on. Funny how I never hear the aryans/anti-immigrants whining about the influx of Canadians.

926 posted on 08/26/2002 2:44:30 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: William Wallace
I apologize for any misunderstanding you may have had of my post. I was drawing a distinction between criticism of a race and criticism of a culture, using past personal experience as an example.

Further, I spoke respectfully of my former co-workers with regard to qualities other than their hygiene standards. I also pointed out that American-born Latino co-workers shared the same criticism that I had.

Ever spent time in Mexico? It's different than America, in many ways delightful, in a few ways, less so. If I'm not mistaken, that's why many of them would prefer to come here.

You may believe that all cultures are equal, I don't.

Or, if you don't believe all cultures are equal, then aren't the areas of inequality up for legitmate inquiry or criticism?



927 posted on 08/26/2002 2:47:52 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: William Wallace
Nothing racist about this, eh folks? Change “Mexican” to “Jewish” and here’s what you get:

Sabertooth is very clever. His 'type' usually are until you parse their words. Then you find the real hate that burns behind them.

928 posted on 08/26/2002 2:48:32 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: William Wallace
Jeez, is it impossible now to discuss and debate the illegal immigration crisis without you folks pulling the race card?

Did you know that most Hispanic Americans want illegal immigration stopped also?

What part of illegal don't you understand?

929 posted on 08/26/2002 2:49:39 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Got Drugs? Got Jobs?

This type of racial sterotype is the worse America, or and American in Tokyo has to offer. Disgusting.

930 posted on 08/26/2002 2:49:39 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Wait a minute here. Saber mentions something about green card commuters with bad hygiene on a thread I had nothing to do with. No I don't think that's racist! This was on personal incident he mention on a thread that I am not even aware of. Not racist in my opinion. I have seen hundreds of his threads, he's a good man.

Now, lets get back on me....YOU HAVE ACCUSED/INSINUATED THAT I AM A KKK PERSON, A RACIST, BIGOT MULTIPLE TIMES.

I asked you over and over to quote one post from me to prove this.

YOUR COULDN'T, YOUR DIDN'T AND NOW YOU AND YOUR TACTICS ARE AGAIN BEING PUT OUT FOR ALL TO SEE.

I ask you again, where are all these racist statements of mine? Let's see them Louie? Right now louie?

You think Sabers a racist because of that statement about hygiene? Fine. I don't

NOW PUT UP LOUIE. LETS SEE ALL OF THOSE RACIST QUOTES FROM ME. Take your time Louie....

931 posted on 08/26/2002 2:49:52 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Like all the times you accused me of being a racist, and nazi member and all the other absolute baiting bull $hit.

Do you shave your head only in the summer, or is that a year round thing?

932 posted on 08/26/2002 2:50:29 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: tpaine
I hear laying about in the pig wallow is great sport if you don't mind the stink.

Tell us TP, does a pig lay in its own wallow? Because you always seem to be the first one to get dirty.

933 posted on 08/26/2002 2:51:41 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Sabertooth
I apologize for any misunderstanding you may have had of my post. I was drawing a distinction between criticism of a race and criticism of a culture, using past personal experience as an example.

Sounds like that "Of course I am not racist. Some of my best yard boys were Mexican."

934 posted on 08/26/2002 2:54:58 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: WRhine
Did you know that most Hispanic Americans want illegal immigration stopped also?

But they don't comment on their brothers and sister's body scents.

935 posted on 08/26/2002 2:55:58 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: WRhine
Did you know that most Hispanic Americans want illegal immigration stopped also?

But they don't comment on their brothers and sister's body scents.

936 posted on 08/26/2002 2:56:40 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I wrote initialy about your support of VA's tactics.

Fight your other beefs without me. -- Preferably in the back.  
937 posted on 08/26/2002 2:56:47 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: VA Advogado
"This type of racial sterotype is the worse America, or and American in Tokyo has to offer. Disgusting."

I find it rather disgusting that this location was later proven by local police records to be a heavily trafficked area for both illicit sales of narcotics, and activity by illegal immigrants. Isn't that disgusting?

938 posted on 08/26/2002 3:03:26 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: VA Advogado; William Wallace
"Nothing racist about this, eh folks? Change "Mexican" to "Jewish" and here's what you get:"
- william wallace, hyping a quote, exactly like a Gobbels wannabe.
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"Sabertooth is very clever. His 'type' usually are until you parse their words. Then you find the real hate that burns behind them."
-- And VA, applauding a neat bit of agit-prop that plays into his AF-agenda.
939 posted on 08/26/2002 3:10:26 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: VA Advogado
VApigpap
940 posted on 08/26/2002 3:12:42 PM PDT by tpaine
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