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JOBS FOR EVERYONE Without Minimum Wage Laws
ISIL ^ | January 2001 | Mark Tier

Posted on 08/23/2002 5:23:56 PM PDT by CanadianFella

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To: Madame de Winter
Economics is like ranching. You gotta fatten the herd before you can profit from it. There is such a thing as over feeding, but at the same time, there has to be balance.

Many of the problems we have now in our economy is there are too many over paid executives who don't contribute nearly enough to warrant their millions per year in salary. If you make the company $20 million bucks, hey, fine, get paid. Get your fair share. Get your worth. If not though, to hell with your golden parachute.

If Bill Gates makes a product and sells billions worth of it, hey good on him. He deserves it. He contributed. No problem there. My problem is there are too many execs who piggy back around, yet don't contribute, yet they get high dollar.

The individual consumer is the most important part of the economy, no matter what any stupid liberatarian with no economic sense dares attempt to ideologize.

41 posted on 08/24/2002 11:33:02 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Madame de Winter
My problem is there are too many execs who piggy back around, yet don't contribute, yet they get high dollar.

Its pretty damn easy to spend someone else's money.

42 posted on 08/24/2002 11:41:17 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: CanadianFella
I would think that wages would be higher with no minimum. Sure, you'd have employers trying to pay bottom dollar, but they wouldn't get good employees, and if they did, they might not be able to keep their attention.
43 posted on 08/24/2002 11:44:21 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: Madame de Winter
Its pretty damn easy to spend someone else's money.

The money gets spent, no matter what. The thing is, in some companies it gets spent on the cronies at the top, rather than on people at the bottom.

Stock prices going down down down, long term potential for the company going down down down... executive pay... going up up up.

44 posted on 08/24/2002 11:59:55 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
You like FDR would like to place a top limit on a corporate executive's salary.

Fortunately corporations are private entities. Executive compensation is established by the board of directors who are elected by the stockholders. The problem is that stockholders whether they own stock directly or indirectly through mutual finds don't pay much attention to how the corporation is being managed.

The other thing to keep in mind is that high executive salaries are ego driven. You can only hide so much from the IRS.

45 posted on 08/25/2002 5:56:15 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother
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You like FDR would like to place a top limit on a corporate executive's salary.

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My post #41: Many of the problems we have now in our economy is there are too many over paid executives who don't contribute nearly enough to warrant their millions per year in salary. If you make the company $20 million bucks, hey, fine, get paid. Get your fair share. Get your worth. If not though, to hell with your golden parachute.

If Bill Gates makes a product and sells billions worth of it, hey good on him. He deserves it. He contributed. No problem there.

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Fortunately corporations are private entities.

Fortunately you are out of your mind. It depends on the corporation, but big corporations are publicly traded and publicly owned. Any Joe with $500 bucks can buy in.

Executive compensation is established by the board of directors who are elected by the stockholders.

Again, the CEO and maybe some very top people are like this, but thats about it. If you have 30,000 employees, a select few get their salaries determined by the board. After that management is generally autonomous. After that, its up to them how they control things.

The stuff I don't like is starting with a billion dollar corporation, and ending up with a $500 million dollar corporation then getting paid $10 million bucks in the process.

People complain about worker productivity. Why not complain about executive productivity also? What happens when their "vision" doesn't work?

46 posted on 08/25/2002 7:50:40 AM PDT by maui_hawaii
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$25 million for a failed plan. I can come up with a failed plan for that.

Its kind of like getting $10 million for getting knocked out in the first round by Mike Tyson.

47 posted on 08/25/2002 7:52:26 AM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
Don't get me wrong. There are many out there who can and do make millions for the companies they work for. My complaint is not against them.

I think everyone should be paid after they perform though. Give them a base, then if their plan tanks, see ya. If it works, why, here is some stock that we've set aside... on the house.

48 posted on 08/25/2002 7:55:22 AM PDT by maui_hawaii
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