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JIHAD SAVAGES
New York Post ^ | 8/23/02 | NILES LATHEM

Posted on 08/23/2002 2:02:52 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:08:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Man in the Mirror
Ah, I suppose you were so impressed with 9/11 that you had to convert to the religion that fostered it. Good job.
61 posted on 08/23/2002 9:56:08 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: AppyPappy
Whoa, pal. That holds true for the Vatican and the Antioch Bapstist Church,

Which of my points are you referring to?

62 posted on 08/23/2002 9:57:18 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: farmall
come on farmall... let's start from the beginning :)

God is God there is only One do you agree or disagree?

63 posted on 08/23/2002 9:59:54 AM PDT by Man in the Mirror
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To: exmarine
Blowing up stuff with a Minuteman.
64 posted on 08/23/2002 10:02:58 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Man in the Mirror
God is God there is only One do you agree or disagree?

Read post 52. Your position is logically impossible.

65 posted on 08/23/2002 10:03:37 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: Man in the Mirror
Perhaps you missed my question to you in post #30 above.

If you can find the time, I would appreciate the courtesy of a reply.
66 posted on 08/23/2002 10:03:40 AM PDT by tictoc
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To: Man in the Mirror
"There are many sects of Islam as there are of the Christians and Jews."

Guess you missed where your pal mohammed declares that there shall be no 'sects' of islam. This religion is a total sham.

"After September 11th, I knew that Islam couldn't preach this kind of thing and that something was very wrong. I read the Quaran and it answered the questions the pastors and preachers and people couldn't. "

Most of the koran and hadiths are rambling nonsense about ritualistic behavior. There's no 'answers' in it. It's a schizophrenic mess of a book, that's suckered a lot of people into a ritualistic, nasty culture.

Reminds me a lot of Mein Kamph..
67 posted on 08/23/2002 10:06:12 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: AppyPappy
How would that apply to the Vatican? Is the Vatican sending out armies of murderous heathens to destroy America? I hadn't heard. Destroying Mecca is a self-defense measure and will nip this war in the bud quick. Do you think any other arab govts will risk destruction of their cities? It's them or us pal. The problem is that our leadership does not have the moral courage of Harry Truman - to do what has to be done to protect Americans. Americans aren't any safer now than we were on 9/11. Borders are like sieves, airport security is a freaking joke, flying is just as dangerous as before - it's all talk, talk, talk. This is WAR! These people are out to destroy us anyway - we have absolutely nothing to lose! The one thing these islamic freaks fear is destruction of Islam - let's make them realize their worst fears!
68 posted on 08/23/2002 10:07:06 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: exmarine
If God can't stop a measly MInuteman missile from destroying the Antioch Baptist Church, then God obviously doesn't exist and who would die for him?

69 posted on 08/23/2002 10:08:03 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy; exmarine
To my knowledge, neither Catholics nor Baptists have ever claimed that God would intervene to prevent the destruction of their buildings. Indeed, many Catholic and Baptist Church buildings, over the centuries, have been destroyed by various means without casting doubt on the validity of those faiths. 1 Have the mohammedans claimed that the cities of Mecca and Medina are, by divine fiat, indestructible?

AB

1) I realise there's a huge intersection between the Catholic and Baptist faiths. They're both Christian, but they're not identical. FWIW

70 posted on 08/23/2002 10:09:29 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: AppyPappy
The Pope has already been multiply shot and lived. Someone decided it was not his time. Do you think the same intervention would apply to Mecca?
71 posted on 08/23/2002 10:10:16 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Man in the Mirror
The Abu Sayyaf group has four more hostages who are women and who are likely to be forced to become sex slaves, according to experts familiar with the group's ruthless methods.

Some of Allah's finest, no doubt? And you actually joined that *religion*? How do you like your women; with or without burqa bags? Well, decent Muslim women wear bags and kafir women are fair game, I suppose. Do you realize how ridiculous all this is? And BTW, I'd need proof to believe that you're a white male American and not just another lying Arab Muslim. The *Prophet* approved of lying, you know. Feh!!!

72 posted on 08/23/2002 10:11:41 AM PDT by xJones
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To: Ramius
"We fear that this is the beginning of a massive level of world violence perpetuated by muslims who want nothing less than world domination. They will fail, but they will take millions of innocent lives with them. "

That's the really scary part of this 'religion'. It's a ritualistic cult with a lot of members, and that somehow makes it legitimate in many eyes.. However, the end result will eventually be total disgust with it. People, I truly believe, will eventually come to their senses and break out of this nonsense. The islamics are damned and determined to destroy themselves, and try to take as much of the world with them as possible.

To make me think differently, I want more than lip service. I want secularization of the middle east. I want all the nonstop allah stuff to stop. I want the warring to stop. Of course, none of these things will happen until many millions more die in the name of allah..

73 posted on 08/23/2002 10:11:47 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: AppyPappy
If God can't stop a measly MInuteman missile from destroying the Antioch Baptist Church, then God obviously doesn't exist and who would die for him?

You are confused about islam and Christianity. Islam is TIED TO MECCA. Teh 5 pillars cease to exist without it! Christianity is tied to Jesus Christ who is omnipresent and omniscient, and does not care about any building. The Vatican may care about the Cistine Chapel but it does not affect the Christian faith one iota. Jesus Christ does not require a pilgrimage to the Vatican and Christians do not point their noses toward it when they pray. Get it? Christianity is not tied to any place other than the person of Jesus Christ. I suggest you do some study on the historic Christian faith.

74 posted on 08/23/2002 10:11:53 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: AppyPappy
In the beginning God created the Heaven and Earth, and the earth was without form and void.


See we as human beings try to comprehend something uncomprehendable as God. Even the smartest of you with your degrees and intelligence think you have this figured out, but this shows how stupid we as humans are to think that the intelligence given to us by God will give us the absolute knowledge and answers as to who God is.

The Bible has been tampered with and changed, the Quaran has not changed NOT ONE LETTER since it was revealed. Jesus, peace be with him, never claimed to be God, man made Jesus part of God.

I know .. Jesus, peace be with him, said I am the way the truth and the light, no man comes to the father but by me.

FUNNY THING... my pastor told me his way is the way the truth and the light and no one makes it to heaven unless they believe as he believes. That was just before he sentenced me to spend eternity in hell because I became Muslim and worship a dead God.

We have an english translation of something so sacred that has been changed and altered so that we can "Understand it better", Jesus, peace be with him, didn't speak english. Jesus prayed and fasted. Women back then covered themselves the way you make fun of and hate now.

I am signing off for now, may God have mercy on us all for who we have become and peace be with all of you.

Salaam

75 posted on 08/23/2002 10:15:02 AM PDT by Man in the Mirror
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To: Man in the Mirror
There is only one True GOD. The GOD of the Bible.

allah from the quran is not GOD!



76 posted on 08/23/2002 10:16:11 AM PDT by farmall
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To: ArrogantBustard
Have the mohammedans claimed that the cities of Mecca and Medina are, by divine fiat, indestructible?

It wouldn't surprise me if that were true. However, I know it is true that a pilgrimage to that place is central to the faith, and one prays toward it every day. If it were radioactive for 1000 years, that would alter Allah's prescription for salvation would it not? I say let's be rid of this Satanic place and hopefully islam will die with it. At the very least, it will shake the fundamentalist muslims to their core and make them think twice about 72 virgins in paradise.

77 posted on 08/23/2002 10:16:17 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: exmarine
Americans aren't any safer now than we were on 9/11. Borders are like sieves, airport security is a freaking joke, flying is just as dangerous as before ...

I disagree. This country is far safer. Flying is safer than it has ever been-- not because of any security system, but because of a change in attitude. Never again will a hijacker be able to take control of a plane with a planeload of passengers sitting there like sheep. Anybody tries to take a plane now and the passengers will shred them to a bloody pulp. That's the most important and the most meaningful thing that could have happened, and in my mind it's really the most effective.

Safety is relative though. There's no way to have perfect safety, whether on the borders or at airports or even inside prisons. But now we ARE more aware. We are more alert. We WILL fight them when they pop out of their little parasite holes. That's what makes us safer, not policies or systems or fences. It's US. It's an attitude, and it's better than any thing else that CAN be done.

78 posted on 08/23/2002 10:16:49 AM PDT by Ramius
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To: Man in the Mirror
"..What about what this country is run on with freedom of religion."

It may or may not interest you that islam, along with a number of other foreign religions, has been declared illegal in the U.S. since 1892, and is NOT to be included under the constitutional provisions of "freedom of religion."

Just a little-realized fact of law.

79 posted on 08/23/2002 10:17:41 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Man in the Mirror
I am an American Muslim, 30 years old, WHITE ... so I deserve to die and am a traitor all of the sudden?

Certainly you are suspect till your loyalty is proven, do you repudiate the actions of your fellow muslims? I have seen no attempt on your part so far.

If you said ,"I am an American Nazi,30 years old, white, and do not repudiate the actions and policies of the Nazi party, then certainly you would be suspect. There is no difference between the two.

80 posted on 08/23/2002 10:17:42 AM PDT by tet68
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