Posted on 08/22/2002 7:40:34 AM PDT by Pokey78
In addition, I do not believe that my defense of the President has ever included nasty comments sucuh as you are hurling at me. I certainly never invaded a PRAYER THREAD, as you did, to push my political agenda.
Give it up. You don't like me because I support the President, whom you obviously detest. The sad thing is that the President would probably listen politely to your complaints.
Congratulations on your marriage. Perhaps you will learn something as you move forward in life. Hopefully, courtesy will be one of those items.
I understand your point, but I ask you to name three practicing, rational "muslims" who do not support terrorism. The "religion" does not allow for differences of degree. Islam is no more a religion than democracy, or dictatorship, or socialism , or communism.Islam is a governmental policy system utilised by homicidal maniacs.
I am not swayed by ignorant arguments otherwise.
Steyn started out reasonably enough, but then stuff such as the above crept in and he flipped out. I think Bush as been skillful in pursuing the right balance between the carrot and the stick. I don't think it is in the US's best interests to declare a cultural war against Islam, even if we think that Islam has certain dysfunctional characteristics in a modern pluralistic capitalist world. Steyn misses all this nuance. Bush is right, and Steryn is wrong. Steyn is smarter than Bush in IQ no doubt, but he is not as wise. I am glad Bush is president and not Steryn. JMO.
King Abdullah of Jordan, um, Mohammed Ali, and Yassir Arafat, wait, Ayatollah Khamenei, crap, forget it. You win.
Steyn also does not have scores of intelligent advisers keeping him on track with regard to the issues. When one credits Bush for something, one should realize he is brediting the Bush Administration.
Steyn is most assuredly a deeper thinker than W., but W. is a good American, and that is enough.
FReegards...
I didn't "invade" with a political agenda. I came to the thread with a spiritual one. That being: that the president - or anyone for that matter - is due any more consideration in prayer on so routine a basis. He's not "running the country" as you like to believe. He's but one man among millions in this country and in this world. It is better to pray God's will be done among all of us as Americans, rather than wish particular grace upon one person, as if all hinges upon him.
Or, did you likewise pray for President Clinton? He was president - and legally so - for eight years, didn't you know that? Did you declare to his detractors that their opinions didn't matter because "he's president" as you do with Bush?
Well, did you?
Give it up. You don't like me because I support the President, whom you obviously detest.
I don't dislike you. Nor do I detest the president. I merely find you ridiculous because of your hyper-sycophantic postings.
You do not fool me one bit. Your coments seem to me to be based on the sin of envy, and I suggest that you think about that for a while.
My question to you is why you think I am hyper-sycophantic? I support the President, make no apologies for it, much as Keyes supporters or Buchanan supporters do. I disagree occasionally with certain policies the President signs off on, but that is to be expected with anyone.
So what, exactly, is your beef with me? You made a special point of singling out my post to disagree with, although there are many others on this thread expressing the exact same sentiments. What is the deal with you?
There's nothing to envy of one who has nothing.
And I comment because of the sin of idolatry. Namely, yours.
My question to you is why you think I am hyper-sycophantic? I support the President, make no apologies for it, much as Keyes supporters or Buchanan supporters do. I disagree occasionally with certain policies the President signs off on, but that is to be expected with anyone.
So... did you support the President when the President was named "Clinton"? Did you pray for him with equal fervor also?
I prayed that President Clinton would come to Christ and renounce his ways. I wanted him to change, but he did not.
I also prayed for the patience to make it through the 8 years of his presidency, and to not be consumed by hate.
I also prayed for President Bush to win the electioin, thanked God for it and continue to do so every day, for God is the final arbiter in this. As far as your accusation of idolatry...I can only say that you are far wide of the mark.
I have no more to say to you. Enjoy your life.
You said earlier that...
...if you don't like the President's style and strategy, you are just going to have to learn to live with it. Just because you, or Mark Steyn, or any one of a hundred other gripers isn't pleased with his mmanner of addressing this issue does not mean he is going to change.So does this apply across the board to ALL presidents, or only to one president? Because if you're consistent in the least bit, you will agree that you should have put up and shut up while Clinton was in the Oval Office. That's pretty much the "if you're being raped, relax and enjoy it" argument.
Well, did YOU shut up when Clinton was president? Because if you didn't, then you've no rights at all telling others to oblige this president with silent dissent.
What is the point of that comment...because I said I supported "the President" you think I support all presidents?
This tells us where your heart lies, Marple. You really don't give a flying rat's butt about what's best for the country. You only want to feel empowered, and you get your jollies by reminding everyone around you that "your guy" is in the White House. You don't want to destroy overwhelming power over people... you want to be part of that power. And where you conflict with MANY of us on FR is that a lot of us refuse to settle for one party trading places with another, when we seriously want NO party over us, period.
I prayed that President Clinton would come to Christ and renounce his ways. I wanted him to change, but he did not.
And you would declare that he has no hope left at all, that God has turned His eyes from him? God is doing for Clinton what He's done for you, me and everyone else on this planet: trying to get us home. And you would judge Clinton unworthy of that?
Now who's "petty"?
I also prayed for the patience to make it through the 8 years of his presidency, and to not be consumed by hate.
You failed.
I also prayed for President Bush to win the electioin, thanked God for it and continue to do so every day, for God is the final arbiter in this.
Wrong prayer. You should have prayed for God's will to be done, and not our own.
Because every teacher you've known for the past 15 years
joins the NEA and sends them money.
Beware.
They swear they have no choice, no dues, no job. they tell me they are are strong armed and these teachers are from several different states, don't know each other and aren't collaberating.
I suggest you follow up and visit the school that day. Don't blindly accept his reply! Principals have ALL the answers to pacify angry parents ... and for 30 years, parents have been pacified.
I sincerely hope you are right about those of us who do not think highly of President Bush. I really hope we are underestimating him. But until he begins acting like Ronald Reagan, he is only George Bush II. He's been in office for nearly 2 years ... when do you think the transformation might take place?
My wife and myself are both newly-employed teachers. We've sworn that not one cent from our household will go to the NEA.
And damned proud of it :-)
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