Another Man Down in the War Against Fathers

FatherMag.com ^ | August 22, 2002 | Roger F. Gay

[RogerFGay]

The article wasn't about condoning Morales' actions. It was in part about understanding them. What do you think will happen if you cheat millions of men out of their lives and then continue to harrass and provoke them?

[Paul C. Jesup]

Exactly.

[Paul C. Jesup]

To answer your question insanity is the ultimate outcome.

[RogerFGay]

The article claims there will be a predictable variation in the reaction. But since it obviously will piss off a whole lot of men to the extreme, there's a bit of insanity on the part of those who continue to harrass and provoke them, don't you think?

[RGSpincich]

Anyways RGS, you always ARE on the side of the state in any of these discussions, no matter what.

That's because your posterboys to date include Wilbur Gaston, Brian Christine and this doofus. I forget was James Beck one of your heros too?

[flyervet]

Damn.

[RogerFGay]

I've become convinced that people who use the term "posterboy" are actually primative artificial intelligence software with too little flexibility to be convincing.

[Paul C. Jesup]

Yes, I agree

[Home By Dark]

=>The hostages were never harmed. I'm guessing they knew the guy and never felt they were in danger, but that's just a guess. BTW: Are you suggesting that Catalino Morales' major mistake is that he didn't take aim from his second floor bedroom?

Wow! Talk about benefit of the doubt! Can a divorced dad with progeny EVER do wrong, Roger?

[RogerFGay]

Yeah, I'm just a crazed extremist. Stop wasting your time trying to change me.

[Constitutions Grandchild]

Have a copy of the divorce decree and child custody papers handy, call the police, have them meet you at the ex's house and pick up your children for your visit. At the end of your visit, ask the police officer to be present when you return your child(ren) to their mother. That's what we do here in Missouri. It seems to work real well.

As an aside to all, no one has the right to resist arrest, take hostages, brandish a weapon at innocent neighbors, and in general cause mayhem.

What is root here is the inability to make a living on the part of either pathetic parent (who should have thought long and hard about the child they would impact) long before it got to this state. One grasps to live like a parasite off the other, and the other is unable to take a job washing dishes or whatever to do his best.

Would you really feel, as an officer of a court of law, that placing a child with someone who lives in a car, or by the seat of his pants with regard to a job and home, is in that child's best interests? I couldn't.

Additionally, what kind of legal representation did this clown have? If he's like most men, he retreated when he should have charged.

[Home By Dark]

=>You are his nanny enabler.


I really like this.

[Home By Dark]

=>It was in part about understanding them. What do you think will happen if you cheat millions of men out of their lives and then continue to harrass and provoke them?


They're all going to take up pitchforks and torches and storm the courthouses of America?

Why don't you share your vision of what will happen, Roger?

[RogerFGay]

They're all going to take up pitchforks and torches and storm the courthouses of America?

Why don't you share your vision of what will happen, Roger?

Can I just send you multiple LOLs all at once so I don't have to respond to individual posts? I don't suppose reading the article gave you any idea what I think; my "vision" (based directly on actual events reported in the article).

[Home By Dark]

=>Yeah, I'm just a crazed extremist.

No quibble from me about that.

=>Stop wasting your time trying to change me.

Well, I would not bother. I just thought maybe you had some notion of what is supposed to be done with all these kiddies out there whose mums and dads aren't together anymore, but you just want to talk about shooting up people.

[balrog666]

I like your post.

Additionally, what kind of legal representation did this clown have? If he's like most men, he retreated when he should have charged.

True. Most are too ignorant about the system, too busy working to spend endless days in court, and/or too wimpy to challenge their lawyer to actually do the right job. Finally, they tend to wimp out when they discover they are paying for two lawyers and they can only fire one.

[RogerFGay]

I'm sticking to the subject of this thread. The solution to the problem exposed by the article is the return to the rule of law.

[Home By Dark]

=>I'm sticking to the subject of this thread. The solution to the problem exposed by the article is the return to the rule of law.

Does that mean you will stop going on about killings and making a hero out of a guy taking hostages? (Ever know anyone who had sniper fantasies? I used to work with a guy like that...)

Somewhere in your brain you must have some idea what to do with all these kids, Roger. The constitution doesn't deal with this. This is a state matter. What specifics would you propose?