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My visit to the reparations rally
8/18/2002 | Me

Posted on 08/17/2002 10:10:29 PM PDT by ArcLight

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To: Nuke'm Glowing
"JUST WHY THE HELL AREN'T THESE PEOPLE DEMANDING PAYMENT FROM THE SAUDIS WHO ARE CURRENTLY PURCHASING ENSLAVED BLACK PEOPLE FROM THE SUDAN!!!!!??????"

What! And give up their selfcentered whine? I don't think so. LOL In fact, I've yet to hear it mentioned by any of their leaders.

41 posted on 08/17/2002 11:34:42 PM PDT by brat
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To: wirestripper
I believe it is because they are taught since birth that the world is stacked against them.

As an admitted outside observer, that's what I think is the crux of the problem. You can't tell people all their lives that they can't make it and expect them to believe otherwise. Today it was "blah blah blah struggle blah blah blah struggle..."

If I were a young black American and that was all I ever heard, I think it would be a little tough to be optimistic about anything.

42 posted on 08/17/2002 11:35:12 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: ArcLight
This is going to set the civil rights cause back 30 years.
43 posted on 08/17/2002 11:37:18 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: MarkL
"the supporters are believers in "white guilt." "

I'm white and feel no guilt whatsoever. How does one feel guilt for something she hasn't done?

44 posted on 08/17/2002 11:38:54 PM PDT by brat
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To: ArcLight
There are a lot of black people in a state of psychological trauma that just hasn't gone away

It's nice to have a fair and balanced report. But the feelings of these blacks are the same as the feelings of underclass whites and it has nothing to do with slavery. If you talk to the underclass whites, you will find a similar level of paranoia, hatred of other races, conspiracy thinking, and nutty ideas. In short, a lot of the underclass can not understand, comprehend or utilize the tools of the modern world. At this point, they have two choices for themselves. They can admit they are stupid and/or uneducated or they can start scapegoating the govt., the jews, their boss, the trilateral commission, the bushes, the democrats, the republicans, the japanese, the chinese, the fact their daddy was a drunk, they were born in the ghetto, or appalacia, the police, racism, or any part of "the system" in general.

Given this choice, a human being will usually scapegoat, that is what repartions are about.

45 posted on 08/17/2002 11:41:27 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
It's all emotion!
Bottom line is :'Gimme my money'
46 posted on 08/17/2002 11:41:35 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: ArcLight
"Hardly anybody I talked to really see reparations happening in the near future. They see the movement as a long-term campaign that could last for decades, but will eventually be crowned with success."

Hmmm, seems as though I've heard this before. Where was it? Oh yes, when I was about 14 years old and being recruited by socialists. I was told the difference between communism and socialism is that a communist wants to have it now, whereas socialists will bide their time, they don't necessarily think they will see it in their own generation but they are content to have it happen after they are long gone - very dedicated people. And dangerous. And despicable. I think they are all of the same mind and ilk - destroy the USA at any cost. F'em I say! I'd die before I'd pay these ba$tards a penny... I want to say, or quit my job and become homeless, but that's REALLY what they want isn't it? For the USA to be destroyed, by any means possible... Again I say, F'em!!! Rot in hell!!!
47 posted on 08/17/2002 11:42:18 PM PDT by tinacart
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To: ArcLight
Malveaux says she had to be pulled off the silly woman as she set about throttling her. I've been to Elmina--a horrific place--and I understand her reaction. Kind of like visiting Auschwitz and asking, "what's all the fuss about?"

Anyway, we spoke a bit and exchanged cards. Despite her TV pit bull demeanor, I kinda like her.

I hear the devil is pretty nice in person too. Anybody who takes part in the black KKK hate mongering Islam supporters is the enemy. (and that ain't no joke)!!!

48 posted on 08/17/2002 11:43:45 PM PDT by Outraged
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To: okie01
ArcLight was there. He made observations. He has credibility with me.

From ArcLight's post.......

Julianne Malveaux was on hand. Fast talker, funny, and rather pretty in an offbeat sort of way.........I kinda like her

Credibility aside, ArcLight has atrocious taste in women.

49 posted on 08/17/2002 11:44:02 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I think it would be a little tough to be optimistic about anything

My point exactly.

This method of controlling people is not new. I has been and is being used by every crackpot in the world today. It comes from(I believe), the teachings of Lenin and the communist party wacko's. They got it from earlier versions of themselves throughout history. It is a way of controlling large number of people in order to achieve a specific goal. I sometimes wonder how people can be so gullible, but they are and continue to be.

Look at the democract party spin and tell me how these folks can look in the mirror afterward. They must believe that the end justifies the means.

50 posted on 08/17/2002 11:44:47 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: ArcLight
Thanks for the notes.

I look at the liberal cause this way: They are not a party based on logic, law, or reason. They are a party based on emotion, perceived victimhood, and need-for-affiliation.

Ergo: Reparations make total sense to a liberal. It's not a cause of reason, it's a cause to promote a political following.
51 posted on 08/17/2002 11:45:08 PM PDT by gortklattu
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To: ArcLight
I've long been horrified by the way black and white popular culture celebrate the image of black men as violent hoodlums.

I gotta call bulls#i# on that. Ain't no one keeping the black man down, except the democRAT party and the black man himself....PERIOD!!!

52 posted on 08/17/2002 11:47:35 PM PDT by Outraged
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
If that was singing.....Michael Jackson ain't got no worries.
53 posted on 08/17/2002 11:48:19 PM PDT by doglot
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To: ArcLight
I've long been horrified by the way black and white popular culture celebrate the image of black men as violent hoodlums. These two guys were equally disgusted. At first I was impressed, until one of them began to talk about how virtually all the people who made the decisions in the music business are Jews, how it was Jews who hype the image of black people as thugs. It was appalling and depressing. Even when these guys had something sensible to say, they'd gone completely nuts.


Hold up pardner who owns the VIACOM corp giant again? ? I don't as a caucasian hype anything thugish about black people, hip-hop is their musical culture and i'm not about to tell them to stop and quite frankly it's not my place.


There were blacks who lynched whites too. Compared to lynchings what is the crime-rate today of black-on-black crime and vice versa?


Here is a link about lynchings beware of propaganda though.


http://www.emory.edu/COLLEGE/RELIGION/affiliate/COVR/kratter.html

54 posted on 08/17/2002 11:52:00 PM PDT by bok
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To: ArcLight
This woman you seem to admire so much - Julianne Malevolent - er, excuse me - Malveaux ..... I watched her on some round table discussion on PBS years ago and heard her express her hatred for Clarence Thomas. Her fervent hope was that Justice Thomas' wife would feed him lots of cholesterol rich food that would cause him to die soon of heart failure.

I was appalled that she could get by with saying something so hateful, and on a nationwide TV show no less. And I know I'm not the only one who noticed this ..... I've seen other mentions of these words of hers several times on conservative webpages.

But were you aware that she says hateful stuff like that? Does this dent the admiration you have for her at all?

55 posted on 08/17/2002 11:53:53 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: hole_n_one
Ok, that picture is pretty repulsive. But then again, it is a picture of a pretty repulsive "person!" Try airbrush next time, it would be kinder...
56 posted on 08/17/2002 11:55:59 PM PDT by tinacart
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To: ArcLight
But I talked to a fair number of people here and it's clear to me that there's something going on here. There are a lot of black people in a state of psychological trauma that just hasn't gone away,

What utter BS. Are you telling me that a whole race of people do not have the brains, fortitude, and motivation to deal with life? How demeaning. And what a bad light to shine on that race in view of the success of Vietnamese, Chinese, Irish, etc. immigrants who faced hardships of their own, some far worse.

57 posted on 08/17/2002 11:56:35 PM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: brat
"the supporters are believers in "white guilt." "

I'm white and feel no guilt whatsoever. How does one feel guilt for something she hasn't done?

Exactly! This is one of the reason that liberals (and race-baiters) do everything they can to destroy the concept of the individual, as opposed to "group membership." If there were any such thing as personal responsibility, it would be impossible for those who are blameless for slavery to be saddled with that responsibility. But since we "aren't responsible for what we do" (according to them), then we are all responsible (i.e. society is responsible) for slavery! And of course, for the lingering effects of slavery.

I'm starting to believe that the "lingering effects of slavery" that we keep hearing about is more because of the effects of the "civil rights programs" from the 60's and 70's. I am perfectly aware of the fact that more and more black families are joining the middle class, but we keep being shown "the underclass" who are still victims of slavery. My opinion is that they're victims of their own views on the world... When blacks from other countried like Jamaica can come to the US, and through their tireless work ethic and will to succeed, become successful while other blacks who have been in the US for generations blame "whitey" for their lack of success, you have to believe that the problem isn't "whitey!"

Mark

58 posted on 08/17/2002 11:57:05 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: gortklattu
They are not a party based on logic, law, or reason.

Exactly. For years now, I've noticed that Liberal's motto seems to be -
"We can feel! Therefore we don't need to think!"

59 posted on 08/17/2002 11:58:51 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: BCrago66
Latime I checked russel simmions is a black man that created and made millions off of the "thug" look (phat farm clothing line) and music with some of the most violent lyics ever. He grew up in a middle class black neighborhood and not the ghetto. What do jews have to do with it?
60 posted on 08/18/2002 12:00:57 AM PDT by Brush_Your_Teeth
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