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Mumps and the MMR vaccine
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Posted on 08/14/2002 1:42:48 PM PDT by krodriguesdc

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To: krodriguesdc; bonesmccoy
Mr. Reagan was a true American who believed that govt. is too big and should not mandated the people...



Proclamation 4968 -- Child Health Day, 1982

September 14, 1982

By the President of the United States

of America

A Proclamation

There is no better way for this Nation to invest in its future than by fostering the health of its children. We can best do this by encouraging children to develop good health habits and attitudes and by giving them the protection of immunization. Good health habits and practices begun in childhood are the prelude to positive health throughout life.

Healthy children foreshadow vigorous adults whose communities will benefit from their energy and productivity. All of us should know how the personal choices we make can help prevent disease and promote good health and to transfer this knowledge to our children. By working together, parents, schools, private and voluntary organizations, and government can effect a beneficial and lasting change in the health of our Nation and the lives of our children.

Now, Therefore, I, Ronald Reagan, President of the United States of America, pursuant to a joint resolution of May 18, 1928, as amended (36 U.S.C. 143), do hereby proclaim Monday, October 4, 1982, as Child Health Day.

I urge all Americans to join me in encouraging good health habits and attitudes in our children and call upon all citizens to observe Child Health Day with appropriate activities directed toward establishing such practices in the youth of our Country.

In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand this 14th day of Sept. in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and eighty-two, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and seventh.

Ronald Reagan

[Filed with the Office of the Federal Register, 11:07 a.m., September 15, 1982]



God Bless the Gipper.

261 posted on 08/21/2002 5:32:24 PM PDT by TomB
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To: TomB
yes,
God bless the Gipper!

By the way, our chipper liberal Chiropractor from MA appears to not understand the dozens of published medical journal articles on the DTaP vaccne.

The actual contents of each pertussis vaccine depends on the manufacturer. In short the acellular vaccine is much more purified than the old whole cell vaccine. It has significantly fewer side effects.

And, more importantly, There one no ''forced" vaccines in the USA.

a parent has the right to refuse any vaccine.

they also have the option to leave our practice! we are not interested in having parents starting out by refusing good advice.

No payment is worth seeing a baby die a death that should never have occured.

Another person inthe thread said his kid had mumps twice. well, that is possible because salivary gland or parotid gland enlargement or infect ion can be multi factorial.
262 posted on 08/21/2002 8:33:08 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: TomB
ahh - nothing but politics and the pharmaceutical lobby...
263 posted on 08/22/2002 4:57:52 AM PDT by krodriguesdc
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To: bonesmccoy
chipper liberal Chiropractor

who told you that I am a chiropractor?

and I am anything but liberal...

264 posted on 08/22/2002 4:59:03 AM PDT by krodriguesdc
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To: bonesmccoy
In short the acellular vaccine is much more purified than the old whole cell vaccine.

that's right - and the acellular is toxoid and killed by hydrogen peroxide as I stated...

And, more importantly, There one no ''forced" vaccines in the USA.

but there are bad side effects that can and do hurt children and if you refuse you can be kicked out of the military and refused entry to school - yes you can refuse technically - but they make it hard for those who do...

265 posted on 08/22/2002 5:02:29 AM PDT by krodriguesdc
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To: krodriguesdc
it's somewhat obvious given your laughable pseudonym of "K. Rodriguez DC".
266 posted on 08/22/2002 11:09:17 AM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: krodriguesdc; TomB; Jim Noble; Jim Robinson
You're incorrect regarding many items in your latest posting. As before, I insist on your identification and your credentials. I did not start this thread... you did.

Persistent and annoying falsehood and incorrect medical advice is actionable in the state and federal courts. You are engaging in interstate commerce by providing unsolicited advertising and advice via the web. I have researched these issues thoroughly and it is NOT a matter of 1st Amendment rights.

You are simply a democrat who is attempting to denigrate this board and expose it to liability.

SIT DOWN.

267 posted on 08/22/2002 11:12:39 AM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
You're incorrect regarding many items in your latest posting. As before, I insist on your identification and your credentials. I did not start this thread... you did. Persistent and annoying falsehood and incorrect medical advice is actionable in the state and federal courts. You are engaging in interstate commerce by providing unsolicited advertising and advice via the web. I have researched these issues thoroughly and it is NOT a matter of 1st Amendment rights.

You are simply a democrat who is attempting to denigrate this board and expose it to liability

as I stated before I do not have to present credentials to you or anyone else - as a matter of law.

I spoke to my attorney about your threat.

I was told that I do not have to identify myself, or state my credentials to engage in spirited public debate...

I have never said on this thread ,or any other that I am a doctor - but you have...

and again my political affiliation is private...

I do not have to tell you who I vote for...

268 posted on 08/22/2002 12:06:30 PM PDT by krodriguesdc
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To: bonesmccoy
here's the link...

If you are trying to make a decision about whether to vaccinate yourself or your child we hope you find the information on our website helpful in making an informed decision. We recommend that you not only use NVIC’s information in making a decision but also talk to trusted health professionals and consider browsing through other vaccine information web sites, many of which are linked directly from this web site.

If you or your child has suffered a serious health problem following receipt of a vaccine, it is very important that you make a vaccine adverse event report to NVIC (click here to report a reaction). Since 1982, NVIC has operated a vaccine adverse event database which is helping to stimulate independent research into vaccine adverse events. A record of what happened to you or your child could help identify common factors which pre-dispose individuals to reacting to vaccines; find ways to prevent others from suffering the same kind of vaccine-related health problems you or your child are suffering; and may well contribute to future development of therapies to help repair vaccine damage.

You should also make a vaccine adverse event report to the federal government’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). The health professional that administered the vaccine has a duty under the law to report all serious health problems which develop within 30 days of vaccination to VAERS. If that person refuses to make the report, contact NVIC and we will help you make the vaccine adverse event report to VAERS yourself.

For more information order the Consumer’s Guide to Childhood Vaccines other books and videos available through our Resource Center. 

We hope you will become a member of NVIC so we can continue our mission of preventing vaccine injuries and deaths through public education. As a member you will receive special reports and newsletters which will keep you up-to-date on the latest developments in vaccine research, development, policymaking and legislation.

 

  ~ Barbara Loe Fisher
Co-Founder & President

VACCINATION DECISIONS FOR PARENTS

Vaccination is a medical procedure which carries a risk of injury or death. As a parent, it is your responsibility to become educated about the benefits and risks of vaccines in order to make the most informed, responsible vaccination decisions.

1. Your doctor is required by law to provide you with vaccine benefit/risk information materials before your child is vaccinated. Consumer groups, including the National Vaccine Information Center, worked with government health agencies to develop parent information booklets on each mandated vaccine. Ask your doctor for the booklet and take time to read it before your child is vaccinated. You may also ask your doctor to show you the information insert provided by the drug company which manufactured the vaccine(s) your child is scheduled to receive.

2. Your doctor is required by law to keep a permanent record of all vaccinations given, including the vaccine manufacturer's name and lot number. Ask for a copy of the doctor's record on vaccinations given to your child to keep for your records.

3. Your doctor is required by law to report all adverse events, including injuries and deaths which occur within 30 days after vaccination to federal health authorities. If your doctor refuses to report a reaction following vaccination, you have the right to report to the government yourself.

4. If your child is left permanently brain damaged or dies as a result of a vaccine reaction, you may be entitled to benefits under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986. By fall 1995, the federal vaccine injury compensation program had compensated nearly 1000 families at a cost of $600 million.

DO:

Become educated about childhood diseases and vaccines. You have the ultimate responsibility for your child's health and well-being and you, not your doctor or state or federal health officials, will live with, and be responsible for the consequences of your decision.

Ask your doctor to give your child a physical exam to make sure your child is healthy before you permit vaccination. A sick child can be at increased risk for having a vaccine reaction.

Write down your child's personal and family medical history listing major illnesses and diseases or medical conditions, especially previous reactions to vaccinations, and have it included in your child's permanent medical records. Before permitting vaccination of your child, ask your doctor if any of these conditions will put your child at risk for having a vaccine reaction. A child who has had a previous severe reaction to a vaccination can be especially at risk for even more severe reactions if more vaccine is given. If you are not satisfied with the answers you are given, get a second opinion.

Monitor your child closely after vaccination. Call your doctor if you suspect a reaction. If your doctor is not concerned and you are, take your child to an emergency room.

Obtain a copy of your state mandatory vaccination laws. Become educated about state vaccine requirements, your rights and legal exemptions to vaccination.

Don't be intimidated by medical personnel and forced into a vaccination decision before you are comfortable with your decision.


269 posted on 08/22/2002 12:46:32 PM PDT by krodriguesdc
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To: krodriguesdc; TomB; Jim Noble; Jim Robinson; tomato; All
This is NOT spirited public debate. THIS IS A THREAD ON MEDICAL MATTERS. YOU have made specific insinuations and allegations regarding physicians and surgeons in our nation. You are required to have a license to offer medical advice (which rejection of suggested vaccines is).

You are engaging in interstate commerce and you are engaging in unethical practices due to violation of the code of state regulations for any state having any reader of this thread.

Tell that attorney to join this thread so I can match his lame arguments!

Meanwhile, STATE YOUR CREDENTIALS!

270 posted on 08/23/2002 11:15:54 AM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
here's the link...

High dose Edmonston Zagreb (EZ) measles vaccine (quotes)
EZ vaccine

"From 1989 to 1991, Kaiser Permanent along with the L.A. County Department of Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), injected over 700 "mostly minority" babies with unlicensed experimental vaccines with fraudulently-obtained consent from the parents. One of the vaccines used, Edmonston-Zagreb high-titer, had already obtained a notorious reputation overseas for killing almost one out of every 13 babies in closely controlled studies in the Third World.  In particular, use of the vaccine had been closely associated with an increased death rate among infants in Senegal, Guinea Bissau and Haiti before their second birthday.  At least one baby in the L.A. County experiment died within this same two year window. When the final story is told, this will likely be one of the most scandalous affairs in the history of human experimentation to rival or exceed that of the German Nazis, the Tuskegee Syphilis Study or the DOE radiation exposure experiments."---Keidi Obi Awadu (Outrage, The Conscious Rasta Report, Aug 1996)

"In an experiment to find out of they could give high-potency Edmonston Zagreb (EZ) measles vaccine to babies as young as four months old [completing disregarding developmental neurology and lack of myelinization in the nervous system of babies] in order to overwhelm their natural maternal antibodies and replace them with vaccine-induced antibodies, medical "researchers" at the CDC and Johns Hopkins University injected thousands of babies in the Third World with the experimental vaccine that reportedly caused chronic immune suppression and the deaths of an unknown number of babies. Also, in the United States, with the help of Kaiser Permanente, more than 1500 six-month old black and Hispanic babies in inner city Los Angeles were "enrolled" in the experiment starting in June 1990. [ During the administration of president and ex-CIA director George Bush.] The study was halted in October 1991, after more than one year of genocidal activity, after repeated reports from vaccine trial sites in Africa that girl babies were dying in higher than expected numbers six months to three years after injection. [ A less-than-admirable population control effort.] "--Leading Edge http://www.cco.net/~trufax/vaccine/0696.html   Based on NVIC Vaccine Report 0696 Rec 9/3/96

    "Using kids as guinea pigs in potentially harmful vaccine experiments is every parents' worst nightmare. This actually happened in 1989-1991 when Kaiser Permanente of Southern California and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) jointly conducted a measles vaccine experiment. Without proper parental disclosure,  the Yugoslavian-made "high titre" Edmonston-Zagreb measles vaccine was tested on 1,500 poor, primarily black and Latino,  inner city  children in Los Angeles. Highly recommended by the World Health Organization (WHO),    the high-potency experimental vaccine was previously injected into infants in Mexico, Haiti, and Africa. It was discontinued in these countries when it was discovered that the children were dying in large numbers.
    Unbelievably, the measles vaccine caused long-term suppression of the children's immune system for six months up to three years. As a result, the immunodepressed children died from other diseases in greater numbers than children who had never received the vaccine. Tragically, African girl babies in the experiment were given twice the dose of boys, and therefore suffered a higher death rate. The WHO  pulled the vaccine off the market  in 1992.
    Ironically, the E-Z measles  vaccine tested by Kaiser on minority babies was supposed to increase immunity in younger infants. Instead, the vaccine produced the opposite effect. A Los Angeles Times  editorial (June 20, 1996) assured readers  that "none of the 1,500 was injured by the unlicensed vaccine" and called upon the CDC to ensure that experiments like the E-Z measles vaccine could  never occur again."--Alan Cantwell MD

"Worth Coolie Prost of Arlington, Virginia, is a biomedical research consultant and medical ethicist who terms what happened with the EZ measles vaccine a "silent tragedy." She reminds us that human experimentation has been performed on vulnerable populations throughout history, with informed consent standards being repeatedly ignored, despite laws designed to prevent this from happening. .........It is very unlikely that any of those deaths would ever have been linked to the vaccine ("high titre" Edmonston-Zagreb measles vaccine), since deaths were delayed. They didn’t begin until six months after vaccination and they continued up until four years after vaccination. Additionally, the deaths were not from measles. Babies died of infections, diarrhea, malnutrition, and all the other things that Third World babies usually die of, because what the vaccine did in some babies, particularly girls, was cause a broad immunosuppression."---Worth Coolie Prost (Gary Null vaccine report)

In the 1980s, the World Health Organization declared measles a life-threatening illness in Third World countries. To lower infant mortality rates, they recommended that the high-titer EZ measles vaccine be used on infants younger than 15 months old. ......Not only did the experiment prove ineffective, it had disastrous consequences. Says Prost: "In 1987, four large ‘studies’ - .... using the very-high-titer EZ measles vaccine were sponsored by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), Johns Hopkins University, and their Department of International Health. These studies used concentrations of the EZ vaccine in doses 10 to 500 times the standard in babies as young as four months old. Studies were done in Haiti, Senegal, Mexico, and Guinea-Bissau."   Prost refers to this incident as a huge, silent disaster for Third World countries and inner city USA. Had the experiment not been stopped - largely through the efforts of one person - consequences would have been far worse, as deaths were not clearly associated with the vaccine. She elaborates:  "It is very unlikely that any of those deaths would ever have been linked to the vaccine, since deaths were delayed. They didn’t begin until six months after vaccination and they continued up until four years after vaccination. Additionally, the deaths were not from measles. Babies died of infections, diarrhea, malnutrition, and all the other things that Third World babies usually die of, because what the vaccine did in some babies, particularly girls, was cause a broad immunosuppression... It’s important to point out that, at least in Haiti, the study was done on a population that included a number of HIV-positive infants. So there were children given this very-high-dose vaccine who were already known to be immunocompromised." 
    In the beginning, Prost notes, results of the experiment were glowing, but once the data were analyzed this presumption changed.  "The study was deemed a success, and by October 1989 WHO was recommending the high-titer EZ vaccine to Third World children as young as six months. They were posting a contract for 250 million doses. By January of 1990, just three months later, the directors of one of the two African sites notified WHO and CDC of a possible link between increased mortality in the babies who were given the high-titer vaccine versus babies who got the regular vaccine. In April of that year, Dr. Goran, director of the Senegal site, re-analyzed his data and found the same thing. He alerted WHO to the problem and was essentially ignored.
        "In January of 1991, there was an international meeting of the vaccine team. Dr. Goran’s mortality data was presented in full. Going into the meeting, he had believed that once the rest of the team saw the figures they would say, ‘Oh my God, yes, he’s right, the vaccine is causing deaths.’ But he was astounded to see his data set aside. The studies were to continue."
        Prost goes on to say that, at that point, Goran decided that the only ethical thing to do was to publish his data independently..........."Dr. Goran’s article appeared in The Lancet, one of the gold-standard medical journals, in October 1991. By that time, the Johns Hopkins team that had been doing this research in Haiti had gone back and collected mortality data, and thought that Dr. Goran might be right. WHO called for an independent analysis of mortality to be presented at a meeting in June 1992."
        By this time, EZ measles vaccine studies were already taking place in the U.S.  "Fifteen hundred mostly black and Hispanic six to nine-month-old, inner city Los Angeles babies were enrolled in a study that used the high-titer vaccine. Parents were not told that the vaccine was experimental, only that their children were in a study comparing two different kinds and schedules of measles vaccine to see which one worked better. The parents did sign something, but the paper left off a little key fact about this being, number one, an experimental vaccine and, number two, associated with increased mortality.
        "In October 1991, the Los Angeles program was halted, and in June 1992, Dr. Goran’s position was vindicated as it became clear that the EZ measles vaccine was significantly associated with increased mortality. The vaccine was withdrawn internationally. By then, the vaccine had been used in about two dozen countries, from Bangladesh to Zanzibar, in ‘studies’ involving at least 15,000 children. Not all of them received the high-titer EZ, but many certainly did. Nobody knows how many of those children died."
        Prost feels strongly that had it not been for the actions of one man, Dr. Goran, we may have had a tragic and unnecessary loss of life of almost unparalleled proportions. And the press never reported the enormity of the incident. She asks people to look back at the Tuskeegee study, which went on for 40 years, and reminds us that it was not the Public Health Service (PHS) or the CDC that exposed that to the public in 1972, but rather the press. "A journalist, Jean Heller, began a series of articles after a social worker, employed by the PHS in California, had been writing to the PHS and the CDC for years with no results. He questioned the ethics of denying a diagnosis and treatment of syphilis to people in the interests of science. Finally, the material was turned over to a reporter who covered it, causing an immediate end to the experiment. That went on for 40 years, and it only stopped because the press covered it."
        Prost contrasts that to the situation with the EZ measles vaccine. "The press hardly covered this issue," she says. "A reporter had an article that ran... in the Los Angeles Times, the Washington Post, and the Philadelphia Inquirer in which CDC director Dr. David Sacher [now Surgeon General] said that he was shocked to discover that parents in the LA study hadn’t been told the vaccine was experimental and that they were very, very sorry and would never do that again. They ignored the fact that the vaccine had caused deaths in Third World countries. That was stated, but in such a way that it was glossed over; [it was] sort of an afterthought, a given, if you will. CDC and Kaiser maintained that there was only one death, and it was unrelated to the vaccine."
        While some international media and U.S. progressive media have covered the experimental measles vaccine story, our mainstream media have not. Says Prost: "We should be very alarmed about this for two reasons in particular, the first being that if the mainstream press hadn’t touched Tuskeegee we never would have known about it. And secondly, we should be alarmed because precisely the same government agencies, research institutions, and very often even the same researchers are... doing AIDS vaccine research in Third World countries and in the United States. The same folks who did the EZ measles vaccine - this non-story - are doing HIV vaccine research. There’s been no accountability, no disclosure... Why should we expect different behavior now? And if the press doesn’t cover it, how will we know when things go wrong?"


271 posted on 08/23/2002 1:58:10 PM PDT by krodriguesdc
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To: krodriguesdc
here's the link...

Unvaccinated Children
Richard Moskowitz M.D.

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The refusal of significant numbers of parents to vaccinate their children
has created a sizable group of people needing very much to be studied, and
has raised a number of important public health issues. Foremost among them
is the fear that a large reservoir of unvaccinated persons could contribute
to epidemic outbreaks that might involve vaccinated individuals as well.
Equally pressing are the immediate practical questions of how best to
protect the unvaccinated persons from disease, how to prevent such outbreaks
if possible, and how to treat them effectively if they do occur.
The long-term question which interests me the most is what the general
health of this unvaccinated group will be like, and what we can deduce from
this data concerning how vaccines really act.

I would like to begin by proposing that we use the terms vaccinated and
unvaccinated instead of immunized and unimmunized, since the basis of the
vaccination controversy is the belief of many parents that the vaccines do
not produce a true immunity', but rather act in some other fashion--or, in
my view, that they act immunosuppressively.

This may sound like a purely semantic distinction, but in fact it bears
directly on the first question raised above. If the vaccines conferred a
true immunity, as the natural illnesses do, then the unvaccinated people
would pose a risk only to themselves. Children recovering from the measles
or polio or whooping cough need never fear getting them again, no matter how
often they are reexposed in the future. So, the reports of large-scale
pertussis outbreaks in the United Kingdom since the vaccine was made
optional seem to me a convincing argument against vaccinating anybody, even
those who desire it, because if the vaccine produces authentic immunity,
then this rebound phenomenon should not occur.

Furthermore, we should be skeptical about the "outbreaks" that are reported
to have occurred. Pertussis, or "whooping cough," is actually rather
difficult to diagnose conclusively, as it requires special cultures or
antibody tests that many laboratories cannot perform and that many doctors,
in the presence of suggestive symptoms, rarely take the trouble to order.
Conversely, there are other cases of pertussis with typical signs and
symptoms but negative cultures and no detectable antibodies. In other words,
whooping cough as a clinical syndrome need not be associated with the
organism Bordetella pertussis, against which the vaccine is prepared, or
indeed with any microorganism whatsoever.

Reservoirs of people unvaccinated against measles, mumps, or diphtheria, on
the other hand, should result in periodic outbreaks of these diseases. But
again, authentic immunity, would insure that only the unvaccinated would
fall ill, which has never proved to be the case. All known out breaks of
these diseases in the post vaccine era have included large numbers of
vaccinated people as well; an. in many instances a large majority of the
cases had previously been vaccinated, some of them quite recently.

The argument that parents should vaccinate their children to protect society
as a whole from epidemic does not make sense. Such epidemic argue rather
against vaccinating the ones who were vaccinated but still came down with
the disease as soon as they were exposed to it. Likewise, if we accept
partial or temporary immunity--conceding that the vaccine are not that
effective, but that we have no other alternative to these rebound
epidemics--then are we not simply throwing good lives after bad, rather like
acknowledging that our patients are addicted to dangerous drugs yet fearing
to withdraw them or even withhold them from others, lest the original error
be fully or frankly exposed?

Which brings us to the second question, namely, how to protect your
unvaccinated child from an acute out break of one of these illnesses in the
vicinity. The first priority is clearly to know the illness--its signs and
symptoms, its natural history and vehicles of spread, its prevention and
treatment.

Rather than reading this information from a pediatrics text and the passing
it along to you, I suggest that you read up on these diseases. Even more
importantly, meet with your local pediatrician or primary healthcare
provider and plan a course of action. If you cannot immediately find someone
whom you can work with or relate to, keep looking. Your local support system
is too important to be left for the time when you need to call on it in a
hurry.

Taking responsibility for not vaccinating is no different from taking
responsibility for a homebirth or any other form of alternative health care.
It calls for not a substitute for conventional care, but rather a different
relationship to the healing process and the health-care system, based on
personal choice and direct participation. We still need help when our
children get sick, and we need to know that this help is available to us.

In the event of an outbreak, a great deal can be done to minimize the risk
to those exposed and to treat those who actually fall ill--much of which
does not involve chemical drugs or vaccines of questionable safety and
effectiveness. The homeopathic method, one such approach, uses minute doses
of natural substances to stimulate and enhance the natural defense
mechanisms of the host. The homeopathic prevention and treatment of specific
acute diseases are discussed in detail in the highly recommended book
Homeopathy in Epidemic Diseases, by Dr. Dorothy Shepherd, a prominent
English homeopath.'

The homeopathic approach to epidemic diseases in general was first employed
by Hahnemann in 1799, during an extensive scarlet fever epidemic in the
province of Saxony.2 After he had treated a dozen or so cases in the usual
homeopathic fashion, giving small doses of remedies capable of producing
similar illnesses experimentally, Hahnemann realized that one remedy helped
to cure at least 75 percent of the cases, a second remedy covered another 15
percent or so, and the remaining 10 percent required a variety of different
remedies corresponding to the unique features of each case. The principal
remedy, which corresponded to the genus epidemicus (the main characteristics
of the outbreak as a whole), was then given out prophylactically to people
exposed to the disease, and also to patients in the early stages of
illness--before the critical point, when other remedies would sometimes be
needed, was reached.

The results were quite dramatic. Those so treated either did not get sick at
all or suffered much milder illnesses, on the whole, than their compatriots
who were not treated or who received the drugs and other heroic measures in
standard practice at the time. Hahnemann became justly famous for this
exploit; and since this time, his method has been used with equal or greater
success throughout the world in treating numerous outbreaks of cholera,
typhus, smallpox, yellow fever, influenza, and other acute diseases of
similar type. Why it has not been more widely influential in this country is
a great mystery, and clearly has to do with the historic decline of
homeopathy as a thought form until the advent of the alternative health and
self-care movement of the past 10 years or so.


"The argument that parents should vaccinate their children to
protect society as a whole from epidemics does not make sense"
Pertussis
"Whooping cough" can be quite a nasty and prolonged illness, even in older
children, in whom it is seldom fatal or dangerous. It can certainly threaten
life in young infants under one year of age, because of the narrowness of
the immature laryngeal opening and its particular vulnerability to
obstruction from any inflammation or swelling. It is rarely serious in
children older than six; and adults, for some reason, rarely contract the
illness at all, even when they are exposed and have never had it before.

The incubation period varies from one to two weeks; and the illness often
begins quite slowly, with some fever, typical upper respiratory symptoms,
and a cough that gradually becomes more and more paroxysmal, until the
characteristic spasms appear, often terminating in vomiting or tenacious
sputum ejected with great violence. Such a cough may commonly persist for
six weeks or even longer, suggesting an autoallergic as well as an
infectious origin.

The nosode Pertussin, prepared from the sputum of patients with this
disease, is the homeopathic remedy generally used for prophylaxis of exposed
children (Pertussin 30c, one dose daily for two weeks after contact); and it
can also be given in early stages of illness, at four-hour intervals.
Drosera is the remedy most often used for the illness itself, although other
remedies may also be needed. For children with a well developed cough,
Drosera 30c or Pertussin 30c may be given every four hours, or even more
often if necessary. A physician should be consulted if the illness is
severe.

Homeopathic remedies are available without prescription, but care should be
exercised to obtain them from a manufacturer belonging to the American
Association of Homeopathic Pharmacies. This way, you will know that they
have been prepared in accordance with the standards of the U.S. Homeopathic
Pharmacopoeia.

Diphtheria
Diphtheria is rarely seen today in developed countries, but small outbreaks
have occurred in the southwestern U.S. (San Antonio in 1977). The illness is
primarily a poisoning attributable to the toxin (a highly antigenic protein
of high molecular weight) elaborated by the diphtheria bacillus. Diphtheria
toxin is the source from which the standard vaccine is prepared (diphtheria
"toxoid" is the toxin denatured by heat, alum precipitated? and preserved
with an organomercury compound), and is also the source of the homeopathic
remedy, or nosode, Diphtherinum, which is commonly used for prophylaxis and
for treatment of complicated cases.

Diphtheria begins as a "cold" or sore throat after a very brief incubation
period of two or three days. The primary infection is usually in the throat
or nasopharynx, and quickly becomes apparent with a greyish, ulcerating
"pseudomembrane," foul breath, high fever, and marked swelling of the
cervical Iymph nodes (producing the classic "bull neck" in severe cases).
Complications such as heart or kidney failure or esophageal obstruction may
follow within a few days; and severe cases may be accompanied by difficulty
in swallowing or talking, due to residual postdiphtheritic paralysis that
may require further treatment. Diphtherinum 30c or 200c may be given in a
daily dose for the first three days following exposure. A physician should
be consulted and other remedies used if the illness develops.

Tetanus
Tetanus is essentially a wound infection complicated by inoculation of
tetanus spores into the wound and germination of these under strict
anaerobic conditions. The infection itself is relatively minor; like
diphtheria (and its close relative botulism), tetanus is largely an
intoxication produced by a highly antigenic protein, tetanus toxin, against
which the standard vaccine is prepared by heat denaturation.

Tetanus does not occur epidemically, and cannot be passed from person to
person, although conditions associated with wound infections (such as
warfare) definitely favor it if the spores are present. The spore forming
organisms live in horse manure, and to a lesser extent in human manure
(chiefly among people who keep horses); but the spores themselves are highly
weather-resistant and can survive in the soil for decades. They will
germinate only under strict anaerobic conditions--such as a deep, jagged
puncture wound with enough tissue damage to get the infection started (the
proverbial "rusty nail") or a simple wound infection (a severe burn or an
infected umbilical cord stump in a newborn) which consumes all the available
oxygen and thereby allows the spores to germinate underneath.

Careful attention to wound hygiene will effectively eliminate the
possibility of tetanus in the vast majority of puncture wounds. Wounds
should be carefully inspected, thoroughly cleaned, surgically debrided of
dead tissue (under local anesthesia, if necessary), and not allowed to close
until healing is well under way "from below." Two homeopathic remedies that
may have a useful role at this stage are Ledum 30c, which should be given
every two to four hours from the time of the puncture, and Hypericum 30c,
which should be substituted if any signs of infection are present.

I have had no experience with Tetanus, the remedy prepared from the toxin
itself; and tetanus toxoid is of no value unless the individual has
previously been vaccinated, since a primary antibody response takes at least
14 days, and the incubation period of the disease can be considerably
shorter than this (three to 14 days). Hypericum can reputedly treat as well
as prevent tetanus, but I would recommend giving human antitoxin at the
first sign of the disease, since it is far less effective later on.

If you do decide to vaccinate your children with tetanus toxoid alone, there
is no need to vaccinate until the child is old enough to walk around and
navigate on his or her own (18 to 24 months), at which time the vaccine is
far less likely to cause complications.

Poliomyelitis
The poliovirus produces no illness at all in over 90 percent of those
exposed to it; among others, it causes, at most, an ordinary flu syndrome
with fever, weakness, gastrointestinal symptoms, aches, and pains. Even in
epidemic conditions, poliomyelitis (the severe central nervous system
complication) develops only in relatively few anatomically susceptible
persons, most of whom eventually recover.

The typical symptoms of poliomyelitis include extreme sensitivity to touch,
irritability, stiff neck, and fine tremors in the early or preparalytic
stage, which may look rather like a viral meningitis. Not infrequently, the
fever will return to normal for a few days just prior to the onset of these
central nervous system symptoms, at which time it will rise again, producing
the "dromedary," or double-hump, fever chart. Paralysis--due to inflammation
of the anterior horn cells, or motor nuclei of the spinal cord--often
appears suddenly and early in the course of the illness, as complete loss of
voluntary movement in a single limb, or perhaps of the palate and throat
muscles (in the dangerous brain-stem or bulbar type), producing disturbances
of swallowing. Most of these cases will still recover, with residual
paralysis or death often supervening much later, after the acute
inflammation has subsided.

The homeopathic remedy Lathyrus sativus has been found to correspond most
closely in its symptomatology to central nervous system polio, and has been
used with great effectiveness both for prophylaxis of exposed individuals
and for treatment in the early stages of the illness, before irreversible
damage has occurred. According to Dr. Shepherd, a Dr. Taylor Smith of
Johannesburg used Lathyrus 30c, one dose every 16 days, in 82 healthy people
(aged six months to 20 years) living in a seriously infected area, 12 of
whom were direct contacts. This regimen was continued for the duration of
the outbreak, and not one of these people developed poliomyelitis.

Dr. Smith also used Lathyrus 30c in three doses, 30 minutes apart, for a
second group of 34 children who were ill with fever, neck rigidity, and
muscle tenderness of varying severity. All of these children recovered
promptly and completely, without any sequelae.

Dr. Grimmer of Chicago, a well known homeopath of the thirties and forties,
recommended Latharus 30c or 200c in a single dose repeated every three weeks
for the duration of the epidemic, and stated most emphatically, from his own
experience, that paralysis will not develop in those so treated. Other
remedies may be required for the illness itself, at the first sign of which
a physician should, of course, be consulted.

Measles
Wild-type measles is a strong, febrile illness lasting at least one or two
weeks, with a long incubation period of 14 to 21 days; a characteristically
smooth, confluent rash; "measly" or runny catarrh of eyes and nose; and a
sizable risk of further developments, such as pneumonia, otitis media, or
even laryngitis of the croupy or whooping-cough type. The incidence of
measles in susceptible contacts approaches 100 percent; and in populations
not previously exposed to it, the fatality rate may be 20 percent or more.
After generations of contact with European and North American cultures, it
became a largely self-limited illness for these populations, one still
memorable but producing complete recovery and a permanent or lifelong
immunity in the vast majority of cases.

The prophylaxis and treatment of measles varies somewhat from outbreak to
outbreak, the genus epidemicus corresponding most closely to Pulsatilla in
Hahnemann's series, Bryonia in Dr. Shepherd's experience, and probably other
remedies in other times and places. In the U.S., largely because of mass
vaccination programs, acute measles is now predominantly a disease of
adolescents and young adults, undoubtedly involving some genetic interaction
with the vaccine virus; and it will probably call for still other remedies.
Pulsatilla remains the remedy most often recommended for prophylaxis,
although my own experience is still too limited to confirm or refute it.

Mumps
Mumps, or epidemic parotitis, resembles measles in its highly contagious
nature and its predilection for the older age groups as a result of the
vaccine program; but it is rather milder, as a rule. After an incubation
period of three weeks, it begins with fever, runny nose, tenderness around
the ears, and swelling of the parotid on one side, spreading to the other in
a few days. About 25 percent of boys with mumps show swelling and
inflammation of one or both testicles; in girls, the ovaries and breasts are
occasionally affected. Residual scarring and atrophy of one testicle is
sometimes seen in adolescent boys and young men.

The nosode Parotidinum, prepared from the saliva of an infected individual,
may be used prophylactically, although Pilocarpine 6c is the remedy
recommended by Shepherd for both prevention and treatment. I have had no
personal experience using remedies with mumps.

Rubella
Rubella, or German measles, is the mildest of all the illnesses for which
vaccines are presently required, and very often escapes detection entirely.
In the adolescent and young adult populations--those presently most likely
to develop it--the illness may be somewhat bothersome, with arthritic
symptoms more likely; the same symptoms are often encountered after
vaccination of these age groups. In children, there is no reason to treat
rubella at all, in most cases. Pregnant women, especially those exposed in
the first trimester, may be given Pulsatilla 6c or 30c every day for 14 days
following exposure, or every four hours for fever and acute symptoms.
Rubella should be suspected in the event of a mild fever; punctate rash; and
swollen or tender lymph nodes behind the ears and neck, and around the base
of the skull--an area seldom affected in other ailments.

People often ask if it is possible to "vaccinate" homeopathically, to use
remedies for the same purpose that the vaccines are normally given. This
question addresses not short-term prophylaxis in the event of an acute
outbreak, which is discussed above, but routine, long-term protection of the
entire population against these diseases.

There is some evidence that remedies can be used in this way. I know of
several British veterinarians who use homeopathic rabies nosode in lieu of
injections to protect their dogs--with no serious side effects and, as yet,
no rabies. But in order to do so, they must give the remedy repeatedly
throughout the life of the animal--an approach that would be much less
suitable for humans. This brings us back to the concept of trying to
permanently eliminate susceptibility to specific diseases. Why attempt such
an uneconomical fantasy, as well as an unnecessary one, since the remedies
work so splendidly well when illness is actually present or threatening?

People also ask whether or not homeopathic treatment can be used in
conjunction with vaccines. Homeopathic remedies may be given to mitigate the
effect or severity of vaccines, just as they have been used with good effect
in cases of vaccine-related illness. Certainly, when vaccines are given, I
would recommend giving Ledum 30c--the basic first-aid remedy for puncture
wounds--immediately afterward, in three doses 30 minutes apart; and
following it with either the nosode prepared from the disease or vaccine
itself or Thuja 30c, the general "antidote" to all vaccines, in three doses
12 hours apart.

Be aware of the possibility that a strong family history of vaccine reaction
may greatly increase the risk of receiving that particular vaccine. Any
child whose brother or sister or parent reacted strongly or violently to a
vaccine should certainly be excused from receiving it, preferably by
obtaining a medical exemption from a physician practicing in that state.
Likewise, any child whose sibling or parent previously contracted
poliomyelitis, or a severe or complicated case of measles or whooping cough
or any of the other diseases listed, should not receive the vaccine prepared
against that illness. Other grounds for medical exemption include
preexisting epilepsy, central nervous system disorder, or any severe or
disabling chronic disease where the risk of serious exacerbation from the
vaccine outweighs the more imponderable long-term benefit.

This brings us to the final question of the long-term impact of mass
vaccination programs on individual and community health. Since I have
expressed my concerns on this score, many people have asked if any research
has been done to substantiate them. I can only appreciate the irony in the
fact that the compulsory feature of these programs is precisely what makes
it so conveniently impossible to study them--so much so, that parents
refusing to vaccinate their children deserve to be congratulated for making
such research possible, and should, in fact, be recruited when it is ready
to be carried out.

Equally noteworthy is the unprecedented breadth and scope of the research
that will be required. Nothing less than the total health picture of
vaccinated and unvaccinated children, followed over an entire generation,
will suffice--a great collective enterprise that not only will be exciting
and important in itself, but surely will yield invaluable new models for
holistic medical research generally, models that take us well beyond the
outmoded focus on single "disease entities" in which we are still imprisoned
today. So, regardless of whether or not you decide to vaccinate, I urge you
all to think about a mechanism for how collaborative research of this kind
can be conducted, and how each of us can play our part in it.



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Notes
1. D. Shepherd, Homeopathy in Epidemic Diseases (Rustington, Essex [U.K.]:
Health Sciences Press, 1967). Available from Homeopathic Educational
Services, 2124 Kittredge St., Berkeley, CA 94704.
2. Samuel Hahnemann, MD (1755- 1843), the discoverer of homeopathy. .
3. R. Moskowitz, "The Case Against Immunizations,"Journal of the American
Institute of Homeopathy 6 (7 March 1983). Available from the National Center
for Homeopathy, 1500 Massachusetts Ave., NW, Washington, DC. Abridged
version published in Mothering (Spring 1984). .


Ricbard Moskowitz, MD (48) received his undergraduate degree. from Harvard
and his medical degree from New York University. He has studied classical
homeopathy with Professor Ceorge Vitboulkas in Athens, Greece. Dr. Moskowitz
practices at tbe Turning Point Wellness. Center in Watertown, Massachusetts.
and is a past President of the National Center for Homeopathy.


ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE.  THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER.


272 posted on 08/24/2002 4:35:28 AM PDT by krodriguesdc
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To: bonesmccoy
YOU have made specific insinuations and allegations regarding physicians and surgeons in our nation.

No - I have stayed away from that...

you on the other hand have made allegations and insinuations about chiropractors and other health care professionals that imply that these professions are not to be trusted or believed...

273 posted on 08/24/2002 9:39:49 AM PDT by krodriguesdc
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To: krodriguesdc; TomB; Jim Noble; Jim Robinson
You have "stayed away from that" and then posted libel and slander regarding colleagues in Kaiser Permanente Southern California. You, Mr. Rodrigues, Democrat from Massachusetts, are on thin ice! Your specious zamboni is sinking!

STATE YOUR CREDENTIALS.

274 posted on 08/25/2002 1:26:43 AM PDT by bonesmccoy
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