Oregon Firefighters get no help from the weather

Oregon Live/ AP ^ | 13 August 2002 | Jeff Barnard

[EBUCK]

It's as absurd as it is infuriating to watch.

You know it. Try living in the nexus of the Green empire. Just about enough to go postal.

EBUCK

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks, I'm looking forward to getting the stickers.

How about sending the extra stickers to the following:

Gov. Taxhiker, the green weenie of the Green Jihadists.

Andy Kerr, the master mind behind all of this Bravo Sierra.

The head of the Club Sierra for Oregon.

Then, one to each senator to Oregon. One is on our side, and the other is working on a bill to allow logging and better forest management. A note might be attached about the necessity of logging the dead trees before this has a rerun in a couple of years.

Then, every green weenie editor and publisher of the fishwraps of Oregon should get one. Apparently the editor of the Oregonian has seen the light and wants proper forestry methods use to prevent more of these green disasters.

I'm will to send more money for more stickers to go to the right people in Oregon, and I don't live there.

Every Oregon Legislative member should get a sticker, and every Director of the various Watermelon Organizatin in the the ONRC should get one.

If we don't shove this into their face at this time with these stickers and after the fires are out, we lose this war.

[AAABEST]

Try living in the nexus of the Green empire.

I have my own nexus right here in the Everglades, where they have their own little creep-units hard at work.

As a matter of fact this is happening 1/2 a block from my house.

[Grampa Dave]

Your words are perfect in describing this Green Jihadist disaster that has been going on, is still going on and will be going on for months.

This news of this disaster needs to be told in Floriduh and all over the eastern US. The people living there need to know what will happen to them when they allow these dangerous Watermelons to have control over them. These enviral terrorists are far more dangerous than al Qaeda. They are here working 24/7 to harm or kill us and to destroy our property.

[EBUCK]

Spoke too soon didn't I? Should have looked at your home page a little closer...I feel your pain!

EBUCK

[AAABEST]

Here's a map of the convoy routes for the event that will eventually be coming right to my neighborhood. Is it going to be near you?

[EBUCK]

I'll send one each to Kitz, Kerr and my Senators.

Let's get someone to write up a little letter to stuff into the envelopes, someone that can lead them into reading the whole thing.

EBUCK

[AAABEST]

Will the convoy be going anywhere near your area?

[EBUCK]

It starts about 5 hours from me in K-Falls on the 28th of Sept. To far to drag the kids but maybe I can get rid of them for the weekend.

EBUCK

[Granof8]

Snow Camp Lookout had been used as a recreational rental the past few years.

The fire is five airmiles from the Gardner ranch according to KURY radio.

Gold Beach has a bit of ash fall this morning.

[madfly]

Praying for all the great Oregon folks.

National InterAgency Fire Center
Boise, Idaho

Wildland Fire Update
August 13, 2002

The national level of response and preparedness decreased yesterday as fire activity continues to moderate throughout the country. While there are hundreds of new fires everyday, most of those are put out within the first day, and those that do become large are not causing a huge resource commitment.

About 270 new fires were reported yesterday, three of which became large fires; four were contained. There are currently 16 large active fires burning in Alaska, California, Colorado, Oregon, Utah, Washington and Wyoming.

A red flag warning is posted for portions of western Oregon and southern Washington Cascades for gusty east winds and low humidity. California and Nevada are expected to be hot and dry today. Other western states will remain sunny, dry and warm. Widespread mostly wet thunderstorms are expected in central Texas and the central Mississippi Valley, with sunny skies expected in other southern states.

Firefighters need your help! Although fire activity has decreased somewhat, fire season is still at its peak. Many states continue to report extreme fire conditions. Visitors to the public lands can help by preventing any unwanted human-caused fires. Click here for some helpful tips on fire prevention methods.

     Statistics

Daily Statistics 8/13/02		Year-to-Date Statistics 1/1/02 - 8/13/02
Number of New Large Fires	3	Number of Fires	56,422
Number of Active Large Fires	16	10-Year Average	58,310
Acres from Active Fires	1,098,384	Number of Acres	5,525,361
Fires Contained Yesterday	4	10-Year Average	2,525,312
States Currently Reporting Active Large Fires (see State-by-State Summaries for details) Alaska (4) - 449,430 California (2) - 131,140 acres Colorado (1) - 2,000 acres Oregon (5) - 466,424 acres Utah (2) - 8,325 acres Washington (1) - 40,665 acres Wyoming (1) - 400 acres		2001 Number of Fires (1/1/01 - 8/13/01)	53,800
		2001 Number of Acres (1/1/01 - 8/13/01)	1,911,636
		2000 Number of Fires (1/1/00 - 8/13/00)	65,720
		2000 Number of Acres (1/1/00 - 8/13/00)	4,703,435

Year-to-date large fires contained	490

    State-by-State Summaries

Alaska	Number of Fires: 4	Acres: 449,430	New Fires: 0	Fires Contained: 0
Reindeer (State of Alaska Division of Forestry): 157,000 acres at 0 percent contained.  This fire is 29 miles northeast of Holycross.  Crews are providing structure protection on the southwest flank. Information:  Call (907) 356-5511 or visit the Alaska Fire Service web site
Ketchem Creek (BLM Upper Yukon Zone):  5,255 acres at 73 percent contained.  This fire is four miles northeast of Circle Hot Springs.  Crews made good progress mopping up the south, north and northwest flanks. Information:  Call (907) 356-5511 or visit the Alaska Fire Service web site
North Fork (Southwest Area Forestry, Alaska Division of Forestry):  29,626 acres at 50 percent contained.  This fire is two miles north-northwest of Medfra. Information:  Call (907) 356-5511 or visit the Alaska Fire Service web site
Geskamina Lake (BLM Tanana Zone):  257,549 acres at 0 percent contained.  This fire is 70 miles west of Fairbanks.  Crews are mopping up around structures along the Kantishna River and at West Twin Lake, Kindanina Lake and Mucha Lake. Information:  Call (907) 356-5511 or visit the Alaska Fire Service web site

California	Number of Fires: 2	Acres: 131,140	New Fires: 0	Fires Contained: 2
Bryant (CDF Riverside Unit): 550 acres at 80 percent contained.  This fire is four miles northwest of Beaumont.  Crews made significant progress constructing indirect and direct attack fireline.
McNalley (Sequoia National Forest):  130,590 acres at 70 percent contained.  This fire is burning nine miles north of Kernville.  Crews are constructing direct and indirect attack fireline and burning out on the northwest, east and west perimeters with support from aerial resources.  Crews made good progress mopping up along the south and west flanks. Information: Call (760) 376-1408 or visit the NcNalley Fire web site

Colorado	Number of Fires: 1	Acres: 2,000	New Fires: 1	Fires Contained: 1
NEW - Cherry Creek (Southern Ute Agency):  2,000 acres at 10 percent contained.  This wind driven fire is 14 miles southwest of Hesperus.  Dozers are constructing direct and indirect attack fireline.  Several residences and outbuildings are threatened; structure protection is in place.

Oregon	Number of Fires: 5	Acres: 466,424	New Fires: 0	Fires Contained: 0
Bald Green Butte (Burns Interagency Fire Zone): 89 acres at 85 percent contained.  This fire is 17 miles west-northwest of Burns.  Crews and dozers made excellent progress constructing fireline.
Hemlock (Willamette National Forest): 136 acres at 75 percent contained. This fire is one half mile north of West Fir.  Crews made good progress mopping up on all divisions.
Biscuit, formerly Florence (Siskiyou National Forest):  378,865 acres at 26 percent contained.  The fire is burning on both sides of the California-Oregon border, 26 miles southwest of Grants Pass.  A pre-evacuation alert has been issued to residents of Agness and in the Pistol River area.  The Illinois River Valley remains under an evacuation advisory; structure protection is in place.  Cave Junction, Kerby, Selma, Agness, Gardner Ranch and McCaleb Ranch are threatened. Information: Call 541-471-6681or visit the Biscuit Fire web site
Monument-Malheur Complex (Malheur National Forest):  43,894 acres at 95 percent contained.  This complex is southwest of Unity.  Crews are mopping up, rehabilitating firelines and patrolling. Information: Call (541) 446-3614 or visit the Monument Fire web site
Tiller Complex (Umpqua National Forest):  43,440 acres at 40 percent contained.  This complex, consisting of eight large and numerous small fires, is on the Tiller Ranger District and in the Rogue-Umpqua Divide Wilderness Area, 25 miles east of Canyonville.  Heavy fuel loading and very steep, inaccessible terrain are hampering containment efforts.  Crews are building indirect and direct attack fireline and burning out where appropriate.  Structure protection is in place in Ash Valley.  The Whie, Falcon, Skim, Seneca, Fawn, Boze and Blink fires have been contained. Information: Call (541) 825-3201 or visit the Tiller Complex web site

Utah	Number of Fires: 2	Acres: 8,325	New Fires: 1	Fires Contained: 0
NEW - Brownie (Ashley National Forest):  153 acres at 50 percent contained.  This fire is 22 miles northwest of Vernal.  Crews are hot-spotting and mopping up spot fires.
Sequoia (Dixie National Forest):  8,172 acres at 97 percent contained.  This fire is 26 miles southwest of Cedar City. Information: Visit the Dixie National Forest web site

Washington	Number of Fires: 1	Acres: 40,665	New Fires: 0	Fires Contained: 0
Deer Point (Wenatchee National Forest):  40,665 acres at 75 percent contained.  This fire is burning seven miles northwest of Chelan. Information: Call (509) 687-1031 or visit the Deer Point Fire web site

Wyoming	Number of Fires: 1	Acres: 400	New Fires: 0	Fires Contained: 0
Vengence (BLM Rock Springs Field Office):  400 acres at 85 percent contained.  This fire is burning 19 miles south of Rock Springs.  Personnel are mopping up.

[Grampa Dave]

I will try to join it somewhere.

By then I will have Ebuck's stickers to put one on the front bumper and one on the rear bumper of my big OJ Simpson White Bronco.

Every person driving in this convoy should have Ebuck's stickers front and back on their vehicles. Maybe you can pass the word to those coordinating this convoy.

Ebuck, time to repost your post about your stickers and how to get them.

Keep me posted on this. Thanks!

[EBUCK]

OK, here it is. (I'll hold off sending them to the firefighters until I'm sure no more orders are coming)

Click on Picure to get the info.

EBUCK

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for the ping and the incredible post about the fires in Ore is gone, Kali, Alaska and other states.

The Green Agendas have a large part of America blazing.

[madfly]

Here are more details from http://www.biscuitfire.com/.

Information Collected @
08/13/02 @ 6 a.m. PST

Location: 26 miles southwest of Grants Pass

Lat: 42° 24' 46"
Long: 123° 52' 14"

Date of Origin: 7/13/02, reported at 12 AM

Size: 376,492 acres

Cause: Lightning

Contained: 25%

Containment Date: None Estimated

Structures Threatened:
Residences: 4,019

Structures Lost:
Residences: 4
Commercial: 0
Outbuildings: 8

Resources Threatened: Towns of Cave Junction, Kerby, Selmac, Agness, Gardner Ranch, Brookings and adjacent areas; private inholdings east of McCaleb Ranch; powerline serving Gasquet, Hiouchi, Crescent City, and Klamath; industrial timberlands; Late Successional Reserves; T&E fish, plants and animals; Illinois, Rogue, Smith National Wild and Scenic River, Timberlands, North Fork Smith Botanical Area, Port Orford Cedars

Personnel Assigned:
6,108 personnel

Injuries: 2 broken ankles

Equipment Assigned:
Crews - Type II: 112; Crews - Type I: 53; Camp Crews: 29
Helicopters: Type I: 19; Type II: 17; Type III:17
Engines: 204
Dozers: 97

Cost to Date: $48,800,000

Fire Behavior:

Zone I: The fire continues to advance up Indigo Creek at the north end. It is predicted to reach the Bear Camp Road no earlier than Sunday, August18, 2002. Interior islands burning actively. Heat leaves the brush fuesl quickly. Slop-over in Division K cooling quickly.

Zone 2: The fire activity was low along the fire perimeter, due to containment lines keeping the fire from getting into new fuel sources. Fire behavior was moderate during the burnout operations.

Zone 3: The fire continued to back down-slope on the west with some torching and short runs. Smoke is hampering visibility along the fireline.

Zone 4: The fire activity remained high throughout the day. Winds were favorable for burnout.

Current Weather Conditions: Monday
Wind Speed: 2-12 MPH
Wind Direction: Variable
Temperature: 82-100°
Relative Humidity: 15-25%

Joint Information Center

Coordinator:
541-471-6681

Media Inquiries:
541-471-6685

Media Liaison:
541-471-6686

Fax:
541-471-6689

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[EBUCK]

BTTT!!! right back at ya!

EBUCK

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for this posting of the summary of what happened yesterday.

The summaries of the next two days will be critical as it gets very hot and has easterly winds blowing over the former Kalmiopsis wilderness area.

[headsonpikes]

Watermelon B*stards bttt!!