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Are you Concerned about Illegal Immigration?
Freedom Friend | 08/09/02 | Freedom Friend

Posted on 08/09/2002 9:49:18 PM PDT by FreedomFriend

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To: pattycake
"You don't seem to understand, there are more than just Mexicans coming across, they are also bringing Arabs who wish to do harm to us. Get a grip. They have been in South America and that is an easy access to the US. They pay the Mexicans top dollar to get into this country. How many more immigrants can this country stand? They take up a lot of our natural resouces plus our TAX dollars. Do you want to take care of all of them? Good, we will send them to your door."


Pattycake...good for you & well said. Unfortunately, people like that don't see it that way.
301 posted on 08/11/2002 5:18:59 PM PDT by 4America
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To: FreedomFriend
Illegal immigration needs to be stopped. It drives down the wages of low-skilled labor and imports voters into the ranks of the democratic party. Most illegal aliens are members of racial minority groups and hence immediatly qualify for affirmative action, thus further destroying the standard of living for natives. Finally, the mechanisms of assimlation are not functioning and hence the illegals contribute to the Balkinization of American society.

It is not just illegal immigration that is a problem. Currently, legal immigration is a worse problem. Our immigration laws are biased to favor the low-skilled, who are more likely to end up on welfare than natives and who also Balkinize our country and swell the ranks of the democratic party. We need to return to the immigration policies of 1924.

303 posted on 08/12/2002 7:07:39 AM PDT by traditionalist
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To: FreedomFriend
Are you concerned about our nation's porous borders? It's a fair question, and I think that it is one that nearly everyone can answer. Please provide your opinion and why you feel one way or the other?

I was concerned twenty + years ago. LONG before I walked in on two illegals burgling my home. LONG BEFORE: gangs, drive-by shootings, graffity on historic buildings & monuments, higher taxes ( to pay for the new schools, health department , parks, Mexican teachers and, let's not forget, new police department to handle the tripling crime rate.), drug rings, whore houses, counterfeiting, planes crashing into buildings... . Yes, I've been concerned, and when I think of the immigration reform bills, that might have prevented 911 but were voted down because of the pro immigration groups, I get angry. I doubt those people, the ones who fought so hard to kill true immigration reform, feel the least bit guilty about the people they indirectly killed.

I have a question for you. How do I deal with those who pooh-poohed me, for years, but now have seen the light? Some are decent enough to apologize, others act as though they don't recall ever being pro leteverydamnbodywhowantsincomebecauseweallcamefromimmigrantsandtheyjustwantabetterlifeandtheyaresuchhardworkinghonestpeople.

304 posted on 08/12/2002 10:54:49 AM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: FreedomFriend
The following is from a neighborhood bulletin board in the Mt Vernon area of Fairfax County, Va. This is one of the most affluent parts of a very rich county. The Asian gang activity alluded to did not come ourt of the sky. I would bet money a significant number are illegals the rest are beneficiaries of our strange immigration laws that gives priority to unskilled and barely literate people from throughout the third world. Due to the high number of Section 8 apartments in the Route 1 (Richmond Highway) corridor a veritable third world tower of babel has set up shop close to a part of the high rent district. I have noticed increasing numbers of latino and Asian "youts" congregating at the 7-11 mentioned in this posting. One evening when I stopped later than usual to get a gallon of milk there were so many young Asians that they were blocking the enntrance. One younf man very politiely said good evening and the rest of his peers moved out of the way. In retrospect I think it had something to do with my age and the general deference east Asians pay to older people (apparently even young thugs). I hope some of the affluent highly evolved and progressive types that live in this area will not see unfettered immigration and "multiculturalism" in a different light, but I have my doubts.

The shootings in West Paducah, Kentucky; Jonesboro, Arkansas; Pearl,
Mississippi; Springfield, Oregon; Bethel, Alaska; and Columbine High
School has proven that there is a clear and present danger to our
children at school. Now we have another problem growing exponentially
in our community, Youth Gangs. At West Potomac High School alone there
are 21 active gangs in operation. There have been reported drug sales
in of our Elementary, Middle, and High Schools due to gang activity. On
June 19th at a parent sponsored graduation party for West Potomac High
School, a young man was murdered. Several gang members are being tried
as adults for the murder the 18-year-old boy. Youth gang activity
should be our number one concern for the new school year because many of
our children will join a gang solely for protection in and out of
school.

It is a popular misconception that gangs only thrive in low-income
areas, when in fact, it crosses all backgrounds and income brackets.
DEA and ATF agents raided a home in affluent McLean, VA to the surprise
of unknowing parents as their son was selling guns and ammunition to DC,
Maryland and Virginia gangs. Last year a local gang operating under the
name 29, with members from Hollin Hall, Wellington, River Farms,
Waynewood and Bucknell, victimized my family and continued their
aggression for several months because I would not drop charges against
them.

Some new friends invited our son and his 2 friends up to 7/11 where they
were ambushed by over 30 youths in the middle of Shenandoah Drive. Our
son was slashed in the face, neck and wrist severing 5 tendons. They
retreated to our house for safety as the assailants gave chase. Our son
was so severely injured that he could not make it into our house and
drove bleeding profusely to the police station for assistance. Several
of the youths kicked down our door to forcing their way in with baseball
bats, knives and machetes to kill his 2 friends. My wife and I were
awakened by the disturbance and came to their defense when they turned
on me hitting me in the back with a baseball bat. Why were they
assaulted? They were new to the area. There have been over 15 separate
incidents that have occurred to other families in our area by the same
youths in the same manner.

The young man that was murdered at the West Potomac graduation party by
the gang, Asian Young and Dangerous or AYD was a resident of an
affluent neighborhood in Mount Vernon that came to the aid of others to
allow safe passage. I have recently sighted new gang graffiti rejoicing
his death on several bus stands in the area. In recent weeks there was
a shootout at the Mustache Cafi across from Beacon Mall with rival gangs
from Maryland. Fairfax County Police could not handle the incident and
were forced to call for assistance from neighboring municipalities and
State Police. We cannot allow our children and ourselves to fall victim
to these senseless acts of violence nor can we allow crime to go
unchecked. We all need to be informed, take charge and be proactive in
making our neighborhood, homes and families safe from crime.

I am working with the Fairfax County Gang Unit to educate and inform the
community of the warning signs and how to deal with this growing threat.
Fairfax County has recently decided to reduce funding for the Gang Unit
so it is up to us. Whether you have kids in school or not, it is
important to know the warning signs so please contact me regarding
interest in attending a community meeting with the gang unit sometime in
September.
Sincerely,
305 posted on 08/12/2002 11:32:55 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: nopardons
I would not presume to speak for Freedom Friend, but my position is this:

The problem is not immigration.

The problem is non-European immigration.

306 posted on 08/12/2002 5:04:33 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: nopardons
Good point. I will be the first to demand more Italian, Austrian, Polish, Hungarian, Russian, and Irish immigration. (see my last post). This is not racial, by the way, merely cultural and geographic.
307 posted on 08/12/2002 5:06:27 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: Torie
Actually, you just did mention Bilbo, and it was disingenious of you to suggest otherwise. Out of curiosity, why do you post here instead of as DU? Your posts to me are not even neo-con; they rise past that, and go straight to the realm of "liberal".
308 posted on 08/12/2002 5:10:37 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: Phillip Augustus
Putting aside your erroneous assumptions, even if they were true, why would I post somewhere where everyone agrees with me? So I guess you are stuck with me, unless you can get Jim Robinson to ban me. Good luck.
309 posted on 08/12/2002 5:14:05 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Far be it from me to suggest that you be banned; in fact, I actually wish more liberal multiCULTuralists were allowed on this forum; it would be the debates more interesting. I would not like to adopt the tactics of the Politically Correct.
310 posted on 08/12/2002 5:19:20 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: antiLiberalCrusader
And Mexicans or "Mestizos" you gotta admit they are pretty ugly and smell even worse than they look(they are what the Germans would call "untermenchen").

I've been around a lot of them ---both in the US and in Mexico, in the crowded Metro, in their crowded buses and trains and actually I have never smelled any bad odor. I think Europeans smell worse ---I'm not pro-immigration though.

311 posted on 08/12/2002 5:39:24 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
I agree, I've smelled some very bad smelling Europeans. I happened to run into a couple of Austrians, and the stench was terrible.
312 posted on 08/12/2002 6:24:33 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: FreedomFriend
I thought you might find this interesting. Pass it on. Just a small lesson in history.

http://www.americanpatrol.com/LETTERS/AntiReconLTR_OCR_020812.html
313 posted on 08/12/2002 9:32:32 PM PDT by 4America
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